Locker10a wrote: » Did anyone fly with EI over Xmas and notice they’d done away with Xmas boarding music? Maybe I was just unlucky but on my flights the boarding music wasn’t the usual Xmas songs they’d normally play this time of year !?
kevinandrew wrote: » I think it needs to be cleared up that IAG is not a brand, it is, to the passenger at least, an invisible holding company that has no desire to be known as anything otherwise. I think the misconception stems from comparisons to the Lufthansa Group which does things slightly differently, those airlines are all made to work very closely with each other and most importantly with Lufthansa. The branding is subtle but it lets the everyday consumer know that these carriers are all under the same umbrella and owned by Lufthansa. Everything those airlines do is almost always for the benefit of big, bad Lufty! The IAG airlines are different, there is no dominant airline or leading brand and none of them are encouraged to work together network or fleet wise unless it works for them individually which is why we see Aer Lingus and BA work closely but not so much Aer Lingus and Iberia. Most of the synergies are behind the scenes, you can fly Aer Lingus or British Airways twice a week for a year and not see a single mention of IAG during your journey. The most visible thing they share are the sick bags, seriously, take a look next time you fly. There has been absolutely zero indication from IAG that they intend to align their airlines to represent some kind of group brand, the talk of an "IAG standard" livery or a new IAG uniform is all complete rubbish from what I can see. Yes, the livery is likely to be eurowhite with a green tail and engines but I can guarantee that those decisions would have been made in Shamrock House and not IAG headquarters. If anything IAG hates expenditure and rebrands are an expensive task!
Locker10a wrote: » I largely agree, however it should be noted that the Aer Lingus Cargo terminal, behind the south gates. Which always had an Aer Lingus Cargo sign on it, recently had the sign changed to “IAG Cargo” so on some levels they do have branding.
jesus_thats_gre wrote: » I thought they are planning to standardise cabins across their fleets too? I think the new seats for the A320 and A321 will be standard across BA and Iberia - includes retrofitting them to the non-neo fleet.
Shamrockj wrote: » Has anyone else noticed if you make a booking for Dublin - Minneapolis Dublin - Hartford Dublin - Philadelphia Shannon - Boston Shannon - New York On the 8th or August it shows all of them operating as 757 by ASL. So will they be getting another 757 or the system needs to be updated to A321neo?
jucylucy wrote: » Stumbled across a drawing ...white fuselage,green engines and fin with a new shamrock:) Nice!
Tenger wrote: » jucylucy wrote: » Stumbled across a drawing ...white fuselage,green engines and fin with a new shamrock:) Nice! Image was posted on Facebook a few weeks ago. It’s bland, eurowhite. Mostly white is quicker to apply and easier to design (less decals needed) Full green tail with teal green shamrock, green engine cowlings. White everywhere else. Shamrock apparently beside the title on th fuselage.
kevinandrew wrote: » Wasn’t this just someone’s interpretation of what they’d been told by someone at Aer Lingus, not an actual official drawing? ............ ............ ............ There’s been so many rumours floating about but the only consistent one appears to be the eurowhite aspect.
Tenger wrote: » I would hope that they maintain EI-DVM in the 60s livery but I doubt it will be seen as an assets. They may even want to refresh it early on “in order to eliminate any confusion surrounding our new brand refresh”
hey are but they'll still be individually branded. IAG plans to standardise some fittings, like economy seats, IFE, connectivity, and the toilets on board. None of this standardisation will be noticeable to the passenger as being an IAG initiative, Aer Lingus, Iberia and Level already have the same economy seats on newer A330s but in totally different colour combinations. It's easier and cheaper to bulk order a standard economy seat and standard fittings. Same goes for IFE and connectivity provider.
trellheim wrote: » hey are but they'll still be individually branded. IAG plans to standardise some fittings, like economy seats, IFE, connectivity, and the toilets on board. None of this standardisation will be noticeable to the passenger as being an IAG initiative, Aer Lingus, Iberia and Level already have the same economy seats on newer A330s but in totally different colour combinations. It's easier and cheaper to bulk order a standard economy seat and standard fittings. Same goes for IFE and connectivity provider. Lets hope its not the Vueling standard they go with as its awfully cramped. As to branding IAG have very very clear ideas about where each airline fits into a sector, e.g. EI=low-budget etc . Its all in that investor report IAG published a couple of months ago, its linked here somewhere
kevinandrew wrote: » As for Aer Lingus' place within IAG, the group identifies Aer Lingus as a 'Value' operator along with Iberia Express. The low cost carriers of the group are Vueling and Level with the full service sector headed up by Iberia and British Airways.
vectorvictor wrote: » It would seem they don't have a particularly good grip on what they have bought or where it fits. EI, whilst far from premium, do a far better service delivery than BA short-mid haul. Percy pigs anyone? And I would argue a better attempt at Long haul up to J level too (No F to compare with of course)
jesus_thats_gre wrote: » Hmmm I would personally argue that BA have a superior short haul service. There isn't major differences by any means but I do find it a more pleasant experience. I would agree with you that Long Haul Business on Aer Lingus is better than BA though.
jesus_thats_gre wrote: » I would agree with you that Long Haul Business on Aer Lingus is better than BA though.
BA for the average economy passenger has always been pretty poor for the best part of 20 years
vectorvictor wrote: » That's interesting. Tbf all I have to compare is LON-DUB. Is it the more civilised air of BA or do you find they exceed on the hard product/service somehow? I do like their Lcy service - very relaxed.
duskyjoe wrote: » just shows how BA’s luxury product has fallen through the floor.
kevinandrew wrote: » On short haul down the back I wouldn’t say there’s much difference in BA or Aer Lingus at all. The people who tend to enjoy BA the most are those up front or members of their frequent flyer programme but this is nothing new, BA for the average economy passenger has always been pretty poor for the best part of 20 years. Not even a free bag of crisps could change my mind about that. The overall experience at BA is probabaly a fraction better than Aer Lingus at their respective home bases, BA has better lounges and check in facilities (when it doesn’t break down) and boarding is a very relaxed, leisurely affair but once on board the gap narrows.
cson wrote: » Having flown EI-LBR & LBT recently I have to say the 757s are not in great shape, those A321's are badly needed imo. Noticeable difference between ASL cabin crew and mainline cabin crew too, the latter are so much more attentive.
cson wrote: » those A321's are badly needed imo.
ozzy jr wrote: » What airline are currently operating the type of A321 Aer Lingus are getting?
