Sonics2k wrote: » That's what I'm saying. The snow in Cork in Feb/March was a massive exception to the the norm that we'd see possible here. 2010 was light snow that barely lasted a day. Roads were a bit icy and that was it mostly.
Defaulter1831 wrote: » Yes I was too. But they were wrong It's only in recent years the curriculum has been changed to the proper definition. We all got the St. Bridget's day start of Spring etc. I remember a Dutch girl in college laughing at the concept of the seasons in Ireland.
Patww79 wrote: » In 2010 I got marooned in my house in Tyrone for the duration of Christmas. No water, no heating, couldn't even use the jacks as the water in it was solid. Crashed the car making one last attempt to get out on Christmas eve and had to abandon it.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Every country is different. The Celtic winter was historically the darkest, not the coldest part of the year. In fact plenty of cultures had that - look at how mid winter or mid summer is celebrated across Europe.
igCorcaigh wrote: » Yeah, down here the 2010 snow was a day event. I remember the weeks of freezing weather running up to Christmas 2009 though!
ninjarambohd wrote: » Hey all. So having lived in this beautiful country for the past 18 years I never really experienced mild winters like we are kind of experiencing now. Last year it was kind of the same and then in March we got hit with a lot of snow. Now me having emigrated from a country which snowed a lot in winter I must say I am really fond of snow so do you all think we may get snow again this year?
Dane Unsightly Vehicle wrote: » The snow in late 2010 was very much not a one-day event in Cork. Just look it up.
Defaulter1831 wrote: » True enough. I'm looking at it meteorologically though. A system in place hundreds of years. Yes daylight is one way. Astronomical winter is 23 Dec to 23 Mar. It really corresponds with temperature.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » Not really hundreds of years. As I said mid winter festivals in Europe tend to be about now and mid summer festivals around the 21st June. meteorological seasons are probably from the scientific era. It makes sense if you are talking about weather. That said, although February is colder here than November there isn’t much in it. Btw many cold countries date winter from the first snow.https://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/seasons-in-finland
OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: » The average temperature the last 4 Marches was 5.9 degrees Celsius. The average temperature the last 4 Decembers was 7 degrees Celsius. By that logic December should be Autumn and March should be winter. Temperature can vary a lot, from year to year. Something that is a *lot* more constant is length of day. Having the shortest day in the middle of winter, and longest day in middle of summer makes way more sense than near the beginning of both. I mean are daffodils really a winter flower? Really?
Defaulter1831 wrote: » Average February temp at Dublin airport 5.3C. Average November temperature 7.3C. 2C is MASSIVE. And March average is 6.7C, 0.6C colder than November, that's a huge difference. Lads some here are just arguing for the sake of it. If you went onto the Meteorological fora with some of these arguments you'd be laughed out of it.
Defaulter1831 wrote: » Flowers is a very bizarre way of counting seasons. Some years there are no frosts before Christmas. Nastertiums survive. Are Nastertiums a winter flower? Really? Fact is in the Northern Hemisphere the seasons are generally defined as: Winter: December, January, February Spring: March, April, May Summer: June, July and August Autumn: September, October, November
Graces7 wrote: » well said. I have a few fine marigolds showing full bright orange, Flowers respond to weather. Some years that goes badly wrong when fruit blossom emerges early in very mild weather before the pollinators are out. so no fruit is set and the crop lost. We are truly at the mercy of the vagaries and mercy of the weather daffodils are a late winter flower and will cope with snow and frost .. take you rpick!https://www.google.com/search?q=daffodils+snow&rlz=1C1GCEA_enIE809IE809&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiM7fXFqsDfAhXGURUIHf-8B_AQ_AUIDigB&biw=1152&bih=606 sorry; falling asleep and canno tfix that!
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » I often post there. Coldness is just one way to measure winter. Length of day is another. Since Ireland doesn’t get that cold,and each month is so variable, and the strength of the sun in March is much more than November I’m inclined to informally go with the old Celtic rules while accepting the meteorologist view in their domain. One thing I do know - September can feel like late summer and there’s many a time I’ve continued my summer routines in September. November is nearly as dark as December, and while not cold - invariably miserable.
antodeco wrote: » 2010/2011 if I remember correctly? Certainly in Dublin it was fairly heavy!
Dane Unsightly Vehicle wrote: » The snow in late 2010 lasted several days and the roads were not just a bit icy. It was treacherous. It started in early December, then thawed, then came back about 10 days before Christmas, and thawed very quickly - overnight Christmas day and into St Stephen's Day. You know it didn't just barely last a day.
Defaulter1831 wrote: » https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108826969&postcount=1338sryanbruen is a brilliant young meteorologist on the weather fora. In the post above he reviews autumn past. Just to show that is how all the meteorological, historical and scientific people on the weather thread describe the seasons. It's not even something that's debated. Start of March, the spring thread opens, start of June summer, start of September autumn and start of December winter.
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » Weather data enthusiast. He isn’t a qualified meteorologist.
Defaulter1831 wrote: » He's too young to be a qualified meteorologist alright but he's more than a weather data enthusiast. I'm a weather data enthusiast but Sryan brings a whole new level of scientific knowledge about weather forecasting to the table. After MT Cranium you have himself, Villain who are the next most knowledgeable. 4 or 5 more very very godd aswell. A weather data enthusiast can list off various weather events and years and has a good memory. This kid (still only leaving cert) is way ahead of just being concerned with historical data.
Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: » Still not a meteorologist though, which takes a lot of study to achieve. The only type of meteorologist is a qualified one who has been through lots of coursework and exams. As someone with a scientific qualification myself, no way would I have got there without outside instruction and people pointing out my mistakes.
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