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Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-mumofseven-margaret-cash-appears-in-court-over-stealing-300-worth-of-clothes-from-penneys-37434491.html

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tayto lover

Dante7 wrote: »

In fairness, that case is a bit of an exception and SVP generally do very good. They are the last port of call for a lot of genuine people in real need. You will always have chancers abusing any system.

Charity organisations need to talk to each other to make sure these scammers get nothing.

KrustyUCC

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Dante7

Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: »

I wouldn’t give a cent to svp after the local one helped a local scumbag pay a court fine. And covered a deposit for a family having to rent because they were evicted from their home for defaulting on the mortgage. It was a council house they took out a mortgage on, bought a new car too with mortgage they were given. They lost the house, and went into rented accommodation heavily subsidized and then placed back in their old house which the council bought back as tenants

In fairness, that case is a bit of an exception and SVP generally do very good. They are the last port of call for a lot of genuine people in real need. You will always have chancers abusing any system.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I wouldn’t give a cent to svp after the local one helped a local scumbag pay a court fine. And covered a deposit for a family having to rent because they were evicted from their home for defaulting on the mortgage. It was a council house they took out a mortgage on, bought a new car too with mortgage they were given. They lost the house, and went into rented accommodation heavily subsidized and then placed back in their old house which the council bought back as tenants

Dante7

BilboBagOfCans wrote: »

Why do you think this is a bad idea?

Well, I'll start with my own experience. Work and pay tax for 25 years and then find yourself unemployed. You can shove your vouchers. That's just dehumanising. It would have been dehumanising for me in my situation and it would be dehumanising for anyone and make them more likely to segregate.

I wouldn't be too averse to bonuses being paid in grocery vouchers or the like. I'm relying on welfare at the moment and got the Christmas bonus and it was a big help. But if there was no such thing as a bonus and someone said to me, there's €250 in shopping vouchers that the govt got a good deal on - brilliant.

Grab All Association

punisher5112 wrote: »

Wonder did cash and the gang head to at Vincent de Paul for their Christmas pack/box.

Really should bring back vouchers which can only be spent on essential foods etc.

I stopped supporting SVP Thurles in 2012 when I seen all the Cash types in their newish people carriers getting their vouchers for €80-100 to spend in local stores that year. A young lad from my estate on €100 reduced JSA told me he got only hotcups and out of date homestead beans.

That day I even witnessed one woman throwing the food hamper which was given to her over the railway bridge on Parnell Street. Reported it to AGS. Iarnród Éireann later had to clean it up that evening.

Passing through Thurles last week and there was a line of pram pushers and newish SUVs (no more mpv’s?) illegally doubled parked near Scoile Ailbhe and a line of women with prams extending into the former district hospital. It was during the stormy wet weather too. Imagine putting your babys health at risk just for vouchers.

Later that evening I was checking out in costcutter and seen one of these women trying to buy cat food and alcohol with the voucher. Thankfully I overheard him saying both aren’t covered by the voucher

BilboBagOfCans

Dante7 wrote: »

If you are suggesting that we move our total welfare system to a voucher scheme, I think that is a very bad idea.

Why do you think this is a bad idea?

Dante7

AllForIt wrote: »

I wonder where she shops now. I get the irony in that last sentence. I mean if I was a Penny's employee I wouldn't let her thought the front door. No doubt she'd scream discrimination or is it racisms now, should that happen.

The stores are legally entitled to refuse her entry due to history of shoplifting. It's a valid exception to the discrimination laws. You are not being refused entry because you are a minority, you are being refused entry because you are a thief. All this publicity probably damaged her shoplifting career.

AllForIt

I wonder where she shops now. I get the irony in that last sentence. I mean if I was a Penny's employee I wouldn't let her though the front door. No doubt she'd scream discrimination or is it racisms now, should that happen. Oh but wait, what about the children, they will suffer if she's barred from Pennys. So useful to have so many kids when you have no means of supporting yourself.

Fol20

Alrigghtythen wrote: »

If you get free food, it frees up your own money for drink & cigs

I think he meant its a replacement for just giving cash to people. Personally, i would be in favour of this. If you want cash. Work. If you dont. Then suck it up as you wont be allowed drink, cigs etc

Dante7

punisher5112 wrote: »

No more so on hand outs from social inclusion of Christmas bonus.,..

Ok, so your point wasn't about the charity Christmas packs at all but rather about the welfare Christmas bonus, which is a different subject and which you didn't mention at all.

I'll fill in the blanks in your posts and assume you are saying that welfare recipients should not get a bonus in cash, but rather in vouchers for groceries. That's a reasonable enough point, but one extra welfare payment is not a huge amount of money, and the logistics of setting up a voucher scheme just for the Xmas bonus would cost more to administrate. No point from a logistics point of view.

If you are suggesting that we move our total welfare system to a voucher scheme, I think that is a very bad idea.

Alrigghtythen

If you get free food, it frees up your own money for drink & cigs

Potential-Monke

Dante7 wrote: »

Why? Are the Christmas packs full of drink and cigs? Or are you objecting to pots of jam in the packs which arent essential foods?

Pretty sure it's more of a dig at someone who has more money than most working people getting free stuff.

punisher5112

Dante7 wrote: »

Why? Are the Christmas packs full of drink and cigs? Or are you objecting to pots of jam in the packs which arent essential foods?

No more so on hand outs from social inclusion of Christmas bonus.,..

Dante7

punisher5112 wrote: »

Wonder did cash and the gang head to at Vincent de Paul for their Christmas pack/box.

Really should bring back vouchers which can only be spent on essential foods etc.

Why? Are the Christmas packs full of drink and cigs? Or are you objecting to pots of jam in the packs which arent essential foods?

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punisher5112 wrote: »

Wonder did cash and the gang head to at Vincent de Paul for their Christmas pack/box.

Really should bring back vouchers which can only be spent on essential foods etc.

I wonder were they Penneys outfits that they wore for Christmas?

punisher5112

Wonder did cash and the gang head to at Vincent de Paul for their Christmas pack/box.

Really should bring back vouchers which can only be spent on essential foods etc.

bisset

mynamejeff wrote: »

lol good luck getting a hold of any one in tusla or hse till about 7th January

social workers dont do un social hours

.

There will be duty social workers availabl on weekdays that are not public or bank holidays, e.g. Thursday 27th December, Friday 28th December and Monday 31st December.

suicide_circus

Grab All Association wrote: »

Both the parent(s) and the creepy men should be reported for this.

what's the crime? it's nasty but I don't think anything illegal has taken place

mynamejeff

lol good luck getting a hold of any one in tusla or hse till about 7th January

social workers dont do un social hours

Grab All Association

Both the parent(s) and the creepy men should be reported for this.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

The men should be reported. It’s not the child’s dancing that’s the issue here

Grab All Association

Not related to Cash but this was just posted in a number of buy and sell groups on Facebook.

12 year old girl provocatively/sexual suggestive dancing and a bunch of old creepy men commenting on it. Reported to Facebook last night and still up this morning ffs.

You know in most other EU countries this would be considered a form of pimping/trafficking putting something like this in a buy and sell group ffs.

HSE/TUSLA should be informed of this.

nice_guy80

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

stopped for diesel near rathkeale today, the homecoming has begun...cars you or I can only dream of

Longford town as well
Place full of cars with UK regs lined up outside two storey mansions

Atlantic Dawn

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

stopped for diesel near rathkeale today, the homecoming has begun...cars you or I can only dream of

De Sunday Wurdled usually does a piece on it each year.

Ash.J.Williams

stopped for diesel near rathkeale today, the homecoming has begun...cars you or I can only dream of

BBFAN

Lads you're wasting your time, a certain poster just argues the opposite point to the majority in any thread and is far too lazy to even type properly.

Why even rise to it.

Signore Fancy Pants

end of the road wrote: »

my experiences with travelers or anyone is ultimately not the business of some stranger on the internet, and me not making it so does not weaken my argument because it can't be weakened because it's the same argument that would be applied to any other group in society.
having bad experiences with people and condemning those people, condemning issues within a group of people and wanting them solved, and condemning denigration and discrimination against a group of people, many of who won't have done anything wrong, is the exact argument applied to all other groups in society and quite rightly, i and many others apply it to the traveling community also.

LOL

Such a hypocrite!

end of the road

Señor Santa Pants wrote: »

Interesting.

Which one is correct?

1. You or your extended family are travellers or settled travellers.
2. You have had negative experiences with travellers but wont admit it here as it weakens your argument.
3. You have had no negative experiences with travellers.

my experiences with travelers or anyone is ultimately not the business of some stranger on the internet, and me not making it so does not weaken my argument because it can't be weakened because it's the same argument that would be applied to any other group in society.
having bad experiences with people and condemning those people, condemning issues within a group of people and wanting them solved, and condemning denigration and discrimination against a group of people, many of who won't have done anything wrong, is the exact argument applied to all other groups in society and quite rightly, i and many others apply it to the traveling community also.

Deebles McBeebles

randd1 wrote: »

I don't know if it has been said in this thread yet, but does anyone else see the irony in a woman called Cash not using cash?

I too now see the benefits of a cashless society.