pablo39er wrote: » Left /Right ? Or any other identity politics lie . . .what a load of bollocks. The greatest divide and conquer strategy ever devised to keep ordinary people subservient was dividing them up into 'left' and 'right' and other such identity politics to fight among themselves. People will support the most idiotic left/right wing self destructive policy, simply because they believe they must support one or the other side at all times no matter what, instead of taking each proposal on it's own merits. As soon as you hear someone spouting they support "left" or "right" - it's a sure sign they have handed over control of their own mind to someone else and don't even know it. and we already have the blueshirts in power . . they're just a bit more careful about hiding it than they were . . .star wars socks and all that
Atoms for Peace wrote: » It used to be about what colour shirt you wore, today it's all about socks. If you wear funky socks your a liberal, short socks your a wanker etc.
BBFAN wrote: » What about if you wear no socks?
Atoms for Peace wrote: » The provos came about as a backlash against the perceived Marxist direction that SF was taking, those lad's have more in common with the freikorps of the Weimar republic.
DS86DS wrote: » This is so true. The Old Left used to be about defending the working class and their interests. Indeed, the founding fathers of America and France could be considered the Liberals of their day as opposed to the conservative monarchists. What you have with the modern Left, is the politics of trendiness and trendies. It's all about feel-good politics and virtue signalling. To be Liberal is considered to be morally superior....a more morally righteous standpoint over the great unwashed riff raff of the right. You only have to see them at action here.....the snobbery and the utter contempt that Liberal trendies have for the ordinary everyday man and woman. And you are correct. Modern right wing Conservatives are defending free speech. The modern Left are the new Nazis censoring anybody who disagrees with them.
sk8erboii wrote: » Cringe. Really just. Cringing at you typing that out without a hint of irony lol
DS86DS wrote: » Prove what I said wrong then.
sk8erboii wrote: » All you’ve written is cringy appeal to emotion. ‘REMEMBUH THE BRAVE BATRIOTS WHO FOUGHT DA LIBERILZ. DA HONORABLE CONSERVATIVES’ Mate, you really REALLY need to get some friends. I dont think id ever sense lonely bitterness in one cringy post but here i am feeling embarassment for you
DS86DS wrote: » Why do you keep using the word "mate"? Were you raised in England, or have you been watching a little too much EastEnders this weather?
sk8erboii wrote: » Who tf under the age of 30 watches eastenders? Youre not some kind of no life loser that watches soap operas are you?
DS86DS wrote: » No bruv, ain't got time for that mate.
sk8erboii wrote: » Embarrassing
Carmelo Obnoxious Accelerator wrote: » https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/taoiseach-claims-sinn-féin-balaclava-slipped-in-eviction-row-1.3735794%3fmode=amp Left is good. Extreme left is bad. The people I know of supporting the mob are all of the more extreme left variety. Populist extremists.
Mad_maxx wrote: » More people in Ireland are better off today than at any time in the past, without multinationals, all we have is farming and tourism, we are not in a great location and have a tiny internal consumer market, low corporation tax is the only edge we have.
Deleted User wrote: » It's not an "edge" when every country can do it. There is nothing to stop the EU initiating moves to harmonise corporation tax rates to a rate lower than Ireland's. It's a race to the bottom that undermines social cohesion in societies as they don't have the taxes to support the public services they previously could. And, as we're seeing in Ireland, a group of PAYE taxpayers in the middle suffer a penal tax rate in comparison to the rate paid by society's richest. The figures from economists Thomas Piketty, Paul Krugman, Joseph Stiglitz and many others for rising inequality in western societies should be a clarion call for that squeezed middle.
Deleted User wrote: » This is the sort of chimerical shít, useful idiot for the right wing, plebian deflection that I'm alluding to. "Extreme left" is communism so either you genuinely believe this state is faced with a communist threat in 2018 or you've invented your own idiosyncratic definition of "extreme left". Just how many people are in your so-called "extreme left"? How much power have they? How many government ministers do they have? And members of the judiciary? How many rich people are funding them? And when is this Irish Bolshevik Revolution going to happen? Fúck that: your "extreme left" are a non-entity whose greatest usefulness is as some sort of bogeyman for modern-day clowns propagating a "red scare". Meanwhile the rich get richer than ever here, paying lower tax rates than ever and even when your so-called "extreme left" in the form of Sinn Féin got into power as the largest political party in Dublin city, apartment sizes became smaller than ever and building standards decreased to help rich developers become richer, and the homeless in this city rises more than ever. "Left wing" Sinn Féin certainly is not in reality, never mind "extreme left". "Populist" Sinn Féin certainly is in rhetoric. Yet you go on with this Red Scare bollocksology against some "extreme left" threat that has fúck-all traction, to understate its reality, in Ireland in 2018. Moreover, you remain, like far too many on this website, relatively unexercised by the growing inequality in western societies. That companies earning billions pay 1% tax while those of us paying PAYE are beaten senseless by 50%-60% tax rates - and gouged out of our paltry after-tax income by the highest childcare and mortgage costs in western Europe - continues is more than a travesty here. And don't even mention the hospital queues. This is all happening during the ascendancy of liberal economics, where shítehawk ina dhiaidh shítehawk comes out and tells us we have to "incentivise" the rich more and more and lower working conditions, building conditions agus gach rud eile. It's a gargantuan disconnect from reality for anybody to blame the "extreme left" as the ogre in all this. How about focusing on the tax policies of states across the western world whose legislators have been on a competitive race to pull back the post-War welfare state and lower their citizens' rights since at least the rise of Thatcherism/Reaganomics, a race to the bottom which has increased exponentially since the 2009 crash? This dominant neo-liberal economics fashion of today is a textbook example of an "extreme" rightwing economic ideology becoming mainstream, becoming "normal". It will get its comeuppance. Nevertheless, for the time being it's frankly stunning that so many people on this website can pour all their energy into raging about some fantasy "extreme left" force while our western societies, and in particular their middle classes, crumble with paying for the consequences of neoliberalism. It's as if every one of these posters is posting from the tax-dodging superrich economic position of Dermot Desmond/Denis O'Brien/JP McManus/John Magnier, etc.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.iri...#37;3fmode=amp Calm down. Left is good. Extreme left is bad. The people I know of supporting the mob are all of the more extreme left variety. Populist extremists. But yeah the Irish political landscape is more about wringing the blood out of middle class people in favour of the idle rich and idle poor, so it probably is a different paradigm than left/right politics.
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