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Gatwick closed (mod note post 1)

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LGW has been closed for some time. Diversions in progress.

Mod Note added 23/12/2018:

This is not the Conspiracy Theories forum, nor is it After Hours. Posters who do not come here often are asked to read the charter. Conspiracy theory posts are not acceptable here.

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Pretzill

It is a little bizarre - also you would think there would be more sightings or hearings drones are noisy little ****ers - so one drone is going in and out of a neighbourhood/estate/ area all day for recharging and the authorities can't track it?

I have no doubt Gatwick has been closed for public safety - is it drones?

Kermit.de.frog

EdgeCase wrote: »

drone/s trolling them is just bizarre stuff.

I know people are reluctant to say it but...

Russian trolling?

Sounds bizarre but it's becoming harder to believe that this might be just an idiot with a few drones.

artanevilla

This is approaching the realms of bizarre at this stage.

Under His Eye

I suspect a D notice has been issued.

EdgeCase

Either we're not getting the full story are they are remarkably less competent than I thought.

Closing a major international airport for over a day due to drone/s trolling them is just bizarre stuff.

Kermit.de.frog

Anyone else think we are not getting the full story here?

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Ah sure kay works to her own drum. Sky may have been asked to do that but your right kay burley wouldn't listen to them. Was she doing a live broadcast from Gatwick btw ?

Just using Kay as an example. In general they are just sensationalising the whole situation. I understand this is serious as someone who works in aviation but still mentioning Isis in reports, asking the airport are they going to passengers compensation it's unrealistic.

ted1

Any connection with LHR issues ? Coincidence or something else ?

Itssoeasy

BZ wrote: »

n!ghtmancometh wrote: »

Maybe the media have been asked to tone down the coverage a wee bit, y'know, to avoid encouraging copycats. I'd imagine police have put a cordon around the exterior public access roads too, probably limiting chances of any pics/vids of the drones.

Ive been watching sky news coverage of the events throughout the day and believe me they are definitely not toning things down. Experts coming out of the woodwork, theories and mentions of Isis using these in Syria to blow up fuel depots. If Sky were asked to tone down coverage Kay Burley must of binned that memo.

Ah sure kay works to her own drum. Sky may have been asked to do that but your right kay burley wouldn't listen to them. Was she doing a live broadcast from Gatwick btw ?

n!ghtmancometh wrote: »

Maybe the media have been asked to tone down the coverage a wee bit, y'know, to avoid encouraging copycats. I'd imagine police have put a cordon around the exterior public access roads too, probably limiting chances of any pics/vids of the drones.

Ive been watching sky news coverage of the events throughout the day and believe me they are definitely not toning things down. Experts coming out of the woodwork, theories and mentions of Isis using these in Syria to blow up fuel depots. If Sky were asked to tone down coverage Kay Burley must of binned that memo.

dresden8

n!ghtmancometh wrote: »

Maybe the media have been asked to tone down the coverage a wee bit, y'know, to avoid encouraging copycats. I'd imagine police have put a cordon around the exterior public access roads too, probably limiting chances of any pics/vids of the drones.

Whatever this is, copycats are the real danger now.

n!ghtmancometh

Maybe the media have been asked to tone down the coverage a wee bit, y'know, to avoid encouraging copycats. I'd imagine police have put a cordon around the exterior public access roads too, probably limiting chances of any pics/vids of the drones.

Donegal Storm

As others have said the whole story is a bit bizarre and surely there's more to it. Drones aren't exactly invisible, you'd think with the massive surveillance & military operation and mass media attention there'd be more than intermittent and barely confirmed "sightings" at this stage..

HTCOne

One would absolutely knacker a jet engine, I’m sure there are others on here who remember a Pilot’s forgotten headset killing an A320 engine a few years ago in DUB. Even ignoring the safety aspect, these engines cost several million each, not worth the risk from a financial point of view alone.

Wheres Me Jumper?

someone somewhere is gonna make a bucketload of money outta this.

dresden8

robinph wrote: »

Not like there are many people hanging around the runway area likely to be hit. Not sure what the problem is, other than them finding a bullet on the runway in a few years time and having forgotten that they fired it so there being a security alert due to that.

Bullets go for miles.

Locker10a

bilston wrote: »

Is Gatwick near populated areas? Shooting a drone down over a residential area is hardly a wise thing to do.

Yes is the short answer! Some farm land either end of the runway but parallel to the runway are towns that are in very close proximity

Wheres Me Jumper?

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Are drones impossible to find on radar?

Surely it’s worth shooting it down now. Elf and safety be damned.

i see what you did there! ELF and safety. Very good:D

bilston

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Are drones impossible to find on radar?

Surely it’s worth shooting it down now. Elf and safety be damned.

Is Gatwick near populated areas? Shooting a drone down over a residential area is hardly a wise thing to do.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Are drones impossible to find on radar?

Surely it’s worth shooting it down now. Elf and safety be damned.

faoiarvok

Jeff2 wrote: »

I don't know that much about these things but if I can track a plane on the ground on flighttracker there has to be a way to control a drone that way.

Those two things are totally unrelated.

Wheres Me Jumper?

ED E wrote: »

If it were Russia they could have purchased 50 units and be using them as disposables. If it doesn't RTB you can't find its controller.

but would that not be akin to an act of war?

Van.Bosch

I’m not supporting them but whoever it is has done an excellent job at causing havoc. If I was them I’d retire for a few hours and either start again after a few hours of ops or move to Heathrow.

You’d have to imagine there is more to it though, I don’t know what but if there isn’t then it’s amazing the damage a few people can do.

faoiarvok

dhaughton99 wrote: »

I’m surprised that localized radar or all the fancy equipment in an airport wouldn’t be able to pick this up and follow.

I would be surprised if the surface movements radar system wasn’t technically capable of painting the drone, though its setup could well have it filter out such a small target to avoid “clutter” from lone birds etc. If so, however, it’s only useful to tell you where it is over the airfield, and wouldn’t have the detail or accuracy to follow such a small target at any significant range from the field.

ED E

If it were Russia they could have purchased 50 units and be using them as disposables. If it doesn't RTB you can't find its controller.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Hurrache wrote: »

I unfortunately clicked through. Pretty much a made up story with their claims and assumptions, with someone claiming they believe the person behind it is educated to PhD level.

well whoever he/she is he seems to be fairly proficient in it's use, and has led Sussex police on a merry dance.

Hurrache

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

Not sure if i feel ok quoting The Sun!!!
but they seem to think it's an Eco-Warrior.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8023028/gatwick-shut-drone-eco-warrior-cops-army-mi5/

I unfortunately clicked through. Pretty much a made up story with their claims and assumptions, with someone claiming they believe the person behind it is educated to PhD level.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Not sure if i feel ok quoting The Sun!!!
but they seem to think it's an Eco-Warrior.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8023028/gatwick-shut-drone-eco-warrior-cops-army-mi5/

Stephen15

Hurrache wrote: »

Yeah not saying they're related, just that it's a massive pisser.

Rail disruption seems to happen every second day in London for one reason or another

Hurrache

Stephen15 wrote: »

Train issues are being caused by a fire in a substation so probably separate to this

Yeah not saying they're related, just that it's a massive pisser.