downcow wrote: » A backstop in the Irish Sea has never been offered. That would solve dup concerns immediately I believe
downcow wrote: » I just got to the second one so far and this is the thing that has turned most neutral people into brexiteers. The unapologetic use of the gfa to justify the backstop. You tell me what this has to do with gfa?
seamus wrote: » Yep, that's the most reasonable solution that most people could get behind. But the DUP have said they will absolutely refuse to accept that, and so the UK parliament will not accept it. Ireland and the EU haven't been punishing the UK. It's been punishing itself by being unable to agree what it wants.
cml387 wrote: » I suppose it's pointless saying this to those who post and run but... When the UK voted to leave, Ireland had two choices: 1) Also leave the UK, against the wishes of the vast majority in Ireland 2)Staying in ,and defend its interests by demanding no hard border (something the UK have also pledged). Once the vote to leave happened, no outcome was going to be good, only the least worst.
downcow wrote: » I have one solution thought Agree a backstop in the Irish see exactly the same as border backstop with same conditions for removal. I think the majority could wear that. What you think?
Mezcita wrote: » Not voting was your first mistake.
A Dub in Glasgo wrote: » Take your pickhttps://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108901452&postcount=582https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108901462&postcount=583 I just got to the secondhttps://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108901473&postcount=584https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108901563&postcount=585https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108901716&postcount=590
downcow wrote: » �� well I was neutral and hence didn’t vote. Couldn’t be sure which way to go. If there was a vote tomorrow I would vote leave as I feel the eu and Eire have fairly disgracefully used our hard earned peace as a bargaining chip to make brexit so painfull that UK won’t leave. I have one solution thought Agree a backstop in the Irish see exactly the same as border backstop with same conditions for removal. I think the majority could wear that. What you think?
10000maniacs wrote: » Everybodys voice should be heard. Not sure this philosophy will sort Brexit out but we hear far too little from Ulster farmers in this debate.
downcow wrote: » What’s the question and I’ll try. No point in asking me to guess what the question is
prawnsambo wrote: » Well you'll be obviously able to answer the questions that were asked of the OP before he ran away. Because that seems to be the modus operandi with fantasists here. Dump a meaningless soundbite and run before the hard questions get asked.
Bambi wrote: » it was on the Northside this morning, did they mix that up with the north?
Shelga wrote: Granted, this presumed that Remain wins a second referendum- far from a foregone conclusion.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » It's kind of sad and pathetic at this stage.
J Mysterio wrote: » Just heard this on Moncrieff. This bus has been touring the UK, in NI today:https://www.bollockstobrexit.com/the-bus-tour/
EdgeCase wrote: » There's also a possibility that you get a divisive campaign and a massive PR push from the leave side and they end up reaffirming the leave vote. There isn't really a huge change in the polling since 2016.
Leroy42 wrote: » The UK government has stated today that a further £2bn will be set aside for no deal preparedness. This is top of the £4.2bn (according to Hammond) that has already been set aside.
LuckyLloyd wrote: » Great post as always. I think it's safe to say that when the reality of huge amounts of Chinese investment / ownership within the UK; or significant expansion of visa programs for Indian nationals as the prices to pay for these wonderful FTAs hit home, Brexit will lose a big chunk of its base in one fell swoop.
robinph wrote: » That would be not acting though, it would merely be ripping up the article 50 notice and go back to normal hoping that everyone forgets the last couple of years.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Acting on a 52-48 remain result in a second referendum will spark off serious unrest in the UK imo. It would tear itself apart violently.
Peregrinus wrote: » Up to now, China has not that interested in free trade agreements; they don't play a big part in Chinese trade policy. It currently has a network of, I think, 14 FTAs, the bulk of them with near neighbours in the Asia/Pacific region. But recently they have taken a slightly greater interest in FTAs, in reaction to Trump's loss of interest in them; as the US becomes more isolationist, China spots an opportunity to step into its shoes, to some extent, and it thinks FTAs may have a role to play here. What China is really interested in is investment agreements, of which it has a huge network - more than a hundred (inc. one with the UK). China's enormous trade surplus with the rest of the world means that it has vast amounts of foreign currency, with which it seeks to acquire assets abroad. So it enters into investment agreements which define and (it hopes) expand its rights to buy and own businesses, infrastructure, resources, etc. in other countries. Even the trade agreements which it negotiates have a chapter on freedom of investment. That's the context within which the UK will be seeking to negotiate a trade deal with China. I've yet to hear any Brexiter enthusiast for an independent UK trade policy, and the negotiation of lots of trade deals, discuss this in any deatil. Or, indeed, at all.
