Uber

punisher5112 wrote: »

Really....

Many many many actually convicted criminals driving around..
Some have many plates also.

It's totally fine if you don't believe me but I've known some and come across others over the years.

I don't really care - what I'm calling unfounded nonsense is your presumption that app-run taxis services would be any better.

Stephen15

Black cabs in the UK are far superior to taxis here in Ireland. Drivers are far more professional and always know where they're going and the cars themselves are far more suitable for the work they do as they are purpose built taxis which are all wheelchair acessible and very spacious compared to just having normal cars.

I think there would be a gap in the market for a similar service here in Ireland but many I'm sure many would associate the idea of black cabs as being an English thing and wouldn't think they'd be suitable in this country. Taxi drivers here should also have to do similar geograpical knowledge to London taxi drivers.

Losty Dublin

makeorbrake wrote: »

It's futile to stand in the way of tech. Regulate of course but a blanket bank like we have here - i'm sorry but protectionism is never the way to go. It means we will always be late to the party and the whole country suffers as a consequence.

I like not having to carry cash where I am. In the country I'm in right now, dodgy **** is likely to happen in a taxi. Uber is electronic meaning drivers can be traced.

But Uber is not illegal here. Uber is legitimate, Uber is perfectly legal here.

The chief difference between services like Uber in Ireland (And much of Europe) and in the US is that in Ireland your vehicle and driver has to be licensed and insured for hire as a cab. As a company Uber seem to think that they should be above such a law or that it should be scrapped purely to adhere to their corporate plan.

For the record there are many other cab hire apps that are happy to use licenced cabs; MyTaxi being one such global firm. Many local cab firms have their own apps or have licensed other apps to use as their own. What's good for the goose etc etc

MJohnston wrote: »

Unfounded nonsense.

Really....

Many many many actually convicted criminals driving around..
Some have many plates also.

It's totally fine if you don't believe me but I've known some and come across others over the years.

LuckyLloyd

makeorbrake wrote: »

right, but are these taxis with taxi licenses?

But the app / tech is available in Ireland and you no longer have to carry cash to use a taxi (and haven’t since Hailo a half decade ago). So what are you talking about again exactly?

punisher5112 wrote: »

Straight up there may well be better drivers and less dangerous criminals doing it as many taxis are.

Unfounded nonsense.

makeorbrake wrote: »

I'd imagine that needs to be assessed on a market by market basis. For example, what laws are they flouting in the U.S.?

Oh, where to start? Try here (warning: it's a really long list) -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uber_protests_and_legal_actions#United_States

If that's the case and you feel that their proposition is unsustainable, then you have little to worry about as they will simply cease to exist (if the model actually is unsustainable..).

I don't know that the model is unsustainable, I think Uber is just uniquely terribly run (or has been in the past at least). Lyft is getting on okay in comparison.

The Uber model that you're presumably referring to is the unlicensed ('peer to peer') ride-sharing that allows any random person to become an Uber driver. There are loads of reasons why this model is much more suitable to somewhere like San Francisco than somewhere like Dublin.

Straight up there may well be better drivers and less dangerous criminals doing it as many taxis are.

magicbastarder wrote: »

that's an insanely naive statement.

Well, perhaps it is? However, I'll be none the wiser unless you care to expand on that statement?

MJohnston wrote: »

Uber is "winning" by ignoring and flouting regulations and laws.

I'd imagine that needs to be assessed on a market by market basis. For example, what laws are they flouting in the U.S.?

MJohnston wrote: »

And they're still managing to lose nearly $1 billion a quarter! They've had a disastrous couple of years as a company.

If that's the case and you feel that their proposition is unsustainable, then you have little to worry about as they will simply cease to exist (if the model actually is unsustainable..).

magicbastarder

makeorbrake wrote: »

If other countries are actively embracing tech and permitting it, then presumably we are missing out.

that's an insanely naive statement.

Uber is "winning" by ignoring and flouting regulations and laws.

And they're still managing to lose nearly $1 billion a quarter! They've had a disastrous couple of years as a company.

end of the road wrote: »

the country isn't suffering because uber isn't here.

That's open to interpretation. If other countries are actively embracing tech and permitting it, then presumably we are missing out. Those that want to work a convenient working model are missing out.

Where uber is simply being allowed, it's winning hands down. Therefore, people must see added benefits or else that wouldnt happen. Do I like the idea that uber as a company are dominant? Not really - I'd like to see some decentralized model emerge but you have to give them credit for disrupting.

end of the road

makeorbrake wrote: »

It's futile to stand in the way of tech. Regulate of course but a blanket bank like we have here - i'm sorry but protectionism is never the way to go. It means we will always be late to the party and the whole country suffers as a consequence.

I like not having to carry cash where I am. In the country I'm in right now, dodgy **** is likely to happen in a taxi. Uber is electronic meaning drivers can be traced.

protectionism sometimes is very much the way to go depending on what is being protected or what the protectionism is designed to stop. this is certainly one case where protectionism is fine given there is plenty of competition within the taxi industry. the country isn't suffering because uber isn't here.

Eh.... Hackney.....

Very racist taxi....

right, but are these taxis with taxi licenses?

makeorbrake wrote: »

Was your post worth being a knob?

The last post was in January. Uber still isn't allowed in Ireland - whilst some other countries allow it and others try and hold it back. The topic is still relevant.

Other than that, I didn't see the date of the last post. My interest was peaked as a result of a report on how uber is being handled in the country i'm in right now.

So once again, don't be a knob.

MJohnston wrote: »

Was that really worth resurrecting this year old thread for?

Was your post worth being a knob?

The last post was in January. Uber still isn't allowed in Ireland - whilst some other countries allow it and others try and hold it back. The topic is still relevant.

Other than that, I didn't see the date of the last post. My interest was peaked as a result of a report on how uber is being handled in the country i'm in right now.

So once again, don't be a knob.

Was that really worth resurrecting this year old thread for?