Omackeral wrote: » Hang on. You blamed Western involvement. When weldoninho pointed out that that's untrue, you play the whataboutery game and get sarky. Give over Dannyboy.
Danzy wrote: » Mainstream mosques across Europe preach views that would make ones blood curl, host speakers that call for violence, wife beating, gay bashing, targeting Jews. Some people pretend the main Mosques are fine and it is all down to back street mosques in a house.
Dannyriver wrote: » The sad thing is that you are actually serious.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vJ3vDLYmsA
Omackeral wrote: » They're at it since forever Danny
Dannyriver wrote: » Look at the video it's easier than actually reading a book I promise
Omackeral wrote: » But what if it's a pop up book with sounds? Probably be very realistic actually...
Dannyriver wrote: » What did you make of the video I linked you, to challenge your claim of my whataboutery
Omackeral wrote: » You claimed the Middle East has been in disarray because of Western influnece. Another poster disputed that by saying it's been like that long before the West arrived. My link also shows it to be true statement. There are plenty of ongoing issues right now in the region which are more complex than simply ''the west did it.''
Dannyriver wrote: » You re link proved nothing. Here s a link showing you the same thing about Europe.
jmayo wrote: » And what the feck were they doing in the likes of Agleria before the French arrived. Oh wait they were under Ottoman rule at one stage. Shure that was lovely. Listening to some one would think all of the places colonised were peaceful paradises before Europeans arrived. And no that is not excusing the cr** carried out by the colonisers, but some of the modern day liberal lefties of the opinion "all white Europeans are bad" would want to check a few facts first about history. One would fooking swear that every ill under the sun was invented by white people from Europe. :rolleyes: I know a multitude of modern day lefties and not one has ever spoken about 'all white Europeans are bad' that s like saying all muslims are intent on overtaking the west. Very Childish opinion altogether.
Omackeral wrote: » It did. it proved there was issues and tension in the region long before the West arrived, which was what my point was. Your link to conflicts in Europe does nothing to strengthen or weaken your argument as that's not what either of us were speaking about whatsoever. It's irrelevant. Thank you.
Dannyriver wrote: » So because there were tensions in the region before the west got involved we are to ignore what they ve done down there? Sure they were always fighting anyway kind of thing is it?
Omackeral wrote: » Literally the point the other poster was making. You got it. Well done! Nobody the West's involvement is to be ignored at all by the way...
Omackeral wrote: » Nazis now? Makes a change from the 'RA I suppose.
Omackeral wrote: » Oh you're just saying the exact same thing again. cool.
Dannyriver wrote: » Ill take your inability to answer my question as proof that you don't have one yeah?
Omackeral wrote: » Right, listen. It's easy.Other poster claimed there's always been issues in Middle East. There has. You maintained it's because of the West's meddling. It's been unstable before then. That's literally the only point that was being made. You start going on about Europe's history then which nobody else had brought up in the contxct of the point. Nobody claimed the West being involved hasn't had an impact. Nobody said that. Actually it's easier just not to engage with you anymore because your debating skills are so poor and you just drag people off on emotional tangents. When your hero is Blindboy from Rubberbandits, it's really nobody's fault but my own for getting into it with you. Auf weidersehen!
In 2018, they candidated in 28 municipalities. Its goals are an Islamic state. Its policies include men and women to be separated on public transport, schools must be forced to offer halal meat and anyone must be able to wear a headscarf anywhere. Its policy is to replace the civil and penal laws of Belgium with Sharia law
The population has been described as "mainly Muslim" in the media; however, actual figures range between 25% and 40%, depending on the catchment area
According to the 2011 Census, 2.7 million Muslims live in England and Wales, up by almost 1 million from the previous census, where they form 5.0% of the general population and 9.1% of children under the age of five
Deleted User wrote: » What % are people happy with having the muslim population at? Or are ye all carefree enough to have no threshold?
Deleted User wrote: » What % are people happy with having the muslim population at? Or are ye all carefree enough to have no threshold? Over in Belgium there is enough to have started political parties, with aims for an islamic state, and they have election success. They literally sound like ISIS.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Belgium#Islam_party This is where is occurs:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sint-Jans-Molenbeek#Demographics So thats probably a limit any sane person would want right? What about future birth rates? England & Wales has it at 5% - from the 2011 census.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_England So gonna pretty much double in a generation and as the older cohort dies off the % will increase. And as much as I enjoy watching the Brexit spectacle and the UK potentially break itself up it is just a bit too close to Ireland for comfort. Whatever happens Ireland will likely have open borders with either the UK or the EU and possibly continue to be open to both. So someone please provide me with a good case in favour of what seems to be utter madness?
Zorya wrote: » What's not to love? Sheffield 2018. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0B-oeKXcU4 https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/1073601626961862657 I for one can hardly wait until a Hijabs'R'Us store opens in my local village. No, no, what I actually mean is I cannot stand the PC lack of criticism of the barbaric fundamentalist medieval elements of certain (burgeoning) aspects of Islam.
Danzy wrote: » It is mad, we all agree today that 1950s Catholism was horrendous here. However, for the modern Left, a faith that is multiples more regressive, at its best, that is often dark ages savagery, is off limits for protest or critique. They'll happily wear an anti Nazi badge and sit on a platform with people who advocate the extermination of all Jews, killing gays, wife beating. Off topic but the modern Left has gone nuts, bat shi7 crazy.
Dannyriver wrote: » The religion of Greed and western arrogance
[Deleted User] wrote: » What % are people happy with having the muslim population at? Or are ye all carefree enough to have no threshold? Over in Belgium there is enough to have started political parties, with aims for an islamic state, and they have election success. They literally sound like ISIS.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Belgium#Islam_party This is where is occurs:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sint-Jans-Molenbeek#Demographics So thats probably a limit any sane person would want right? What about future birth rates? England & Wales has it at 5% - from the 2011 census.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_England So gonna pretty much double in a generation and as the older cohort dies off the % will increase. And as much as I enjoy watching the Brexit spectacle and the UK potentially break itself up it is just a bit too close to Ireland for comfort. Whatever happens Ireland will likely have open borders with either the UK or the EU and possibly continue to be open to both. So someone please provide me with a good case in favour of what seems to be utter madness?
weldoninhio wrote: » So, none.
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