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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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ShamoBuc

All Ireland Champions !!

Glanmire win the Junior ladies title on a s scoreline of 1-22 v 3-11

RedRochey

I have absolutely no problem with the colleges and divisions playing in the championship, but agree that only letting Cork players play for the colleges would be better, why should we let intercounty players from other counties block young cork talent from playing in the senior championship?

The divisions are a little more tricky, I get where some people are coming from saying that it's unfair for some small clubs to go up against a combination of 20 clubs, but this is only a very recent problem, I didn't see this argument going around before 2017. Maybe don't let premier intermediate players play with the divisions? Or don't let Cork players play, they play enough games during the year already?

Edgware

big_drive wrote: »

To be fair to Meyler he's given a go to plenty since he took over. The majority who are standing out at club level have got a go, there isn't any others to stick out to me

But he hadnt much belief in his panel when he recycled players against Limerick and brought back on players who had been substituted

benji79

Edgware wrote: »

But he hadnt much belief in his panel when he recycled players against Limerick and brought back on players who had been substituted

I wouldn’t have much belief in them either.
There’s not much else out there, he’s given plenty ago but they’re not showing much

zetecescort

Aoife Murray, Gemma O'Connor and Breige Corkery have all committed to Cork camogie for next year

ShamoBuc

That's great news, they will be tough to beat , yet again.

0byme75341jo28

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1017129/?__twitter_impression=true

Doesn't sound like Croke Park are too happy

Water John

Thought the costs were to be €70m with Govn't providing €30m. So the net cost to the GAA members and public has almost doubled.
If you have a budget of €70m for a project, how can you keep writing cheques when you pass your budget?

The_Kew_Tour

Oh dear......

KrustyUCC

Revealed: Páirc redevelopment costs soar towards €110m as Croke Park steps in

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/revealed-pairc-redevelopment-costs-soar-towards-110m-as-croke-park-steps-in-892027.html

I knew the over run was bad but €25 million is almost 30%

Great job Frank

rebeve

Oh and it needs a new pitch .

KrustyUCC

Bloody disaster

rebeve

Dictatorships are never really a good idea .

MrMusician18

The asset is almost certainly going to have to be sweated for all it's worth now. GAA, soccer, rugby, there will be pressure to open it up now full time for all comers.

I said it when the redevelopment was first mooted, that this was nothing but an oversized vanity project which has come back to bite Cork GAA solidly on the ass. There seems to be no strategic thinking within the GAA on which grounds to develop, with every county wanting their own Croke Park.

Water John

Parc Ui Chaoimh renamed Frank's Albatross.

topmanamillion

MrMusician18 wrote: »

The asset is almost certainly going to have to be sweated for all it's worth now. GAA, soccer, rugby, there will be pressure to open it up now full time for all comers.

The problem with County grounds is they really don't stand up to international standards. For GAA, PUC is a 45,000 capacity ground. For international sport its a 21,000 seater with 2 concrete walls behind the goals.

Gunner3629

RTE report:

It became clear in the middle of the year that the amount spent on the stadium way exceeded what people thought," Croke Park stadium director Peter Mr McKenna told the Irish Examiner. "We’re probably close to €110 million as a final cost, and what was the ability to pay that?

And Frank Murphy decides to retire in July (mid year). Coincidence, I think not.

KrustyUCC

Fierce consistent rumours circulating about under the table payments to persons high up in the stadium project

County convention going to be fun on Sunday

Of course it will all be probably swept under the table

Anywhere else and the entire county board would be made to resign after bankrupting Cork GAA

Gunner3629

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Fierce consistent rumours circulating about under the table payments to persons high up in the stadium project

County convention going to be fun on Sunday

Of course it will all be probably swept under the table

Anywhere else and the entire county board would be made to resign after bankrupting Cork GAA

Instead, they just hand over the management to HQ. Interesting timing too. Why was this not published at the time. Instead its the week before Christmas.

KrustyUCC

Better this week than after convention

The CCB would prob say it can't be discussed after convention

Still they will find some way of the overspend not becoming a major issue on Frank's fond farewell

Boom__Boom

Wonder if the county board delegates will demand an independent audit and resignations, which is what you would expect in any properly run organisation.

Gunner3629

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Wonder if the county board delegates will demand an independent audit and resignations, which is what you would expect in any properly run organisation.

Its conceivable that Frank decided to retire because he knew a day of reckoning would come.

You'd hope so, but considering how closely the two are aligned - they all know each other presumably - I'm not sure it will happen.

Boom__Boom

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Fierce consistent rumours circulating about under the table payments to persons high up in the stadium project

County convention going to be fun on Sunday

Of course it will all be probably swept under the table

Anywhere else and the entire county board would be made to resign after bankrupting Cork GAA

Remember the Freemount email from July 2017

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103992247&postcount=469

I also posted about how the top table responded to it.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104066690&postcount=475

The best thing Kevin O'Donovan could do for Cork GAA as first order of business at the convention to immediately call in a team of independent auditors to review 1) the whole stadium project and 2) the overall state of Cork GAA's finances.

The most damming bit of what McKenna said today was

“ I think if it wasn’t an aligned set-up you’d be talking about a receivership or something like that. The ability to pay that amount of money back wasn’t there, but that’s not how we operate as an organisation.”

Amprodude

The fans are bigger fools to pay 25 euro to watch a county final.

KrustyUCC

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Wonder if the county board delegates will demand an independent audit and resignations, which is what you would expect in any properly run organisation.

As if that will happen

Tracey & Co will remain in power no matter what

MrMusician18

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Fierce consistent rumours circulating about under the table payments to persons high up in the stadium project

County convention going to be fun on Sunday

Of course it will all be probably swept under the table

Anywhere else and the entire county board would be made to resign after bankrupting Cork GAA

It didn't happen in Longford, and it didn't happen in Galway, so it won't happen here.

KrustyUCC

Boom__Boom wrote: »

Remember the Freemount email from July 2017

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103992247&postcount=469

I also posted about how the top table responded to it.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104066690&postcount=475

The best thing Kevin O'Donovan could do for Cork GAA as first order of business at the convention to immediately call in a team of independent auditors to review 1) the whole stadium project and 2) the overall state of Cork GAA's finances.

The most damming bit of what McKenna said today was

You may be sure Ger Lane knew what the story was when Freemount sent the email

"If there have been cost overruns, why have the County Committee not been updated on these overruns over the past eighteen months".

So much for Ger Lane and Tracey changing things

Keep the plebs in the dark for as long as possible

Boom__Boom

KrustyUCC wrote: »

You may be sure Ger Lane knew what the story was when Freemount sent the email

"If there have been cost overruns, why have the County Committee not been updated on these overruns over the past eighteen months".

So much for Ger Lane and Tracey changing things

Keep the plebs in the dark for as long as possible

That's why I think O'Donovan should immediately setup a review by independent auditors - it would be a sea change in how Cork GAA operate.

However I'd be fearful that it will be the case that there will be a handful of questions raised by a small number of delegates (some of which will be ruled out of order/not on the agenda) with close to nothing in the way of answers and business as usual.

Itssoeasy

I mean lads are we any bit surprised when you had frank and bob and the rest of the intelligentsia running Cork GAA ? Was it John allen who said Cork win All Irelands in spite of the county not because of them ?

KrustyUCC

Boom__Boom wrote: »

However I'd be fearful that it will be the case that there will be a handful of questions raised by a small number of delegates (some of which will be ruled out of order/not on the agenda) with close to nothing in the way of answers and business as usual.

Unfortunately that is exactly what will happen