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Irish Promotions Thread Please read post 1 (*Mod Warning Post #3947)

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Ok, seeing as the individual threads seemed to been a let down, the general thread will be given a go again.

Post results and details of your shows in here.

Please note there will be a zero tolerance policy on muppetry. I will have absolutely no problem in closing this thread down again and will have less of a problem in handing out lengthy bans.

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Insect Overlord

Spotted that on Instagram earlier. Delighted to see they're planning 2 more dates in Limerick in the near future. Looks like a few of the Phoenix and OTT guys have started a new podcast as well.

ThePott

Phoenix announced the rough dates and locations of their shows up to July, pretty full schedule.
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They also announced the name of their next show, 28 Weeks Later. It's apparently 28 weeks after their debut show and will have the Kings of the North on the card.
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showpony1

How long do you all think Courage will last?

ThePott

This is the tron in question or at least the one he uses for Phoenix Wrestling.
Idk if it's that bad or at least kids during the attitude era were exposed to worse. Then again I'm not a parent and this is the second time that someone has complained about the content of the kid's show.

diusmr8a504cvk

Courage doesn't sound too inspiring by the sounds of it!

I'd agree on some of the adult stuff, I've seen that Billy Bedlam video a while back but your description of it makes it sound even worse especially when there's kids around.

jface187

Went to Courage Wrestling again Saturday in Swords, I got free tickets.

They seem to be giving out a lot of free tickets and when you walked in you saw why. I say the crowd was about half for the last show with Pac.

We kick off with J-Money, cutting a promo in weird american accent. His was talking about Spike Trivet buying half of J-Money inc. Because of this Spike picked J-Money opponent and visa versa. Why? I have no idea.

Spike picked a guy I think was called Dirty Dragon?. He cut a promo too in a weird american accent. The match was ok, but dirty dragon needs to pull his pants up.

After that Spike came out, called everyone stupid and said he hates J-Money (Why buy half his company then?). J- Money picked Demerti for him who was on the last show.
Demerti dived from the bar into the ring and did a diamond cutter on Spike. But Spike won the match clean. Go heels.

Then Andy Deal came out again. Last month he did his open challenge. He calls someone out no one accepts and then walks around the crowd picking on people. Then tries it with a women, she slaps him and the guy comes out to defend her honor. Andy then beats this guy up.

This month was the same but worst. Andy puts his hands on the women and draged her into the ring before the big "save". Again he beat the guy who came out to save the women. I forget his name.

The problem again, this is an all ages show. There were kids here. So Andy tries it on with the woman in a very creepy way and uses violence when he doesn't get what he wants. All for him to win his match clean. It's a very odd message to send to kids.

Charlie Morgan won her match against Laura. Clean. Three heels in a row.

Then there was five way cluster match. Some guy called Billy Bedlam came out doing the "Crazy" guy gimmick. Mad Mad Manson he was not.

They have a giant video wall where all the wrestlers video play as they enter the ring.
Billy Bedlam has a animated video with him in a padded room in a mental home. Then a nurse comes in and beats Billy. It then goes to Billy still in the padded cell drawing on the wall using his own feces and eating it. Then the nurse comes in a kills him. Great video for the kids in the crowd.

The match was awful. The run in at the end was given away as we saw the two giant lads get into position at the side of the ring before the match started.

Before the break they showed a video for the next show. It's on Feb 23 in the Button Factory
(I assume their new home). They have Bobby Guns, Avalanche and I could not make out the last name. A small "City Centre" chant broke out.

I left at the break, no idea how the second half went. Hopefully the move to the button factory will end them trying to be an "All ages" company. Noting here is for the kids.
Hopefully they can get some clear direction. There is still no belt for either the man or the woman to wrestle over. Maybe even do something like Progress did at the start and have the Championship Staff. Just to make things a bit different.

Best of luck to them, think being in the city centre will get more people in.

ciano316

noisenotmusic wrote: »

Basketball Arena is such a pain to get to on a regular basis, takes quite a while to get out from town to there. At least there's somewhere as a stopgap.

They said the basketball won't be the regular arena going forward but might used again.

leggo

brianblaze wrote: »

But can we complain about complaining about complaining?

I insist that you do!

weareallmarks

Lads, if you want to go you will go. The excuses are beyond lame. Get a load of you into a bus, split 12 ways its nothing. There are people in the UK flying in for OTT shows and some of you wont organsise a group to get together a cut costs to get there............ jesus christ on a bike!

(i await a ban)

brianblaze

But can we complain about complaining about complaining?

leggo

There's no point complaining, but there's no point complaining about complaining either. Look if OTT had it their way the Tivoli or an even better, affordable venue more fitting of their size/needs would be available smack bang in the middle of Dublin City. It's well established that they don't have that option. It's **** but they have to do something or just pack up and there's no more wrestling with big names for Irish fans. Don't feel too bad for them though: they're a business and make loads of money from this, not a charity, so you don't owe them anything.

If you don't like this decision, don't go. If you're fine with it considering all that you're getting, go! If it's a bad decision, let that be OTT's problem, they're the ones paying for the big expensive wrestlers and taking the risk so they get to have the show wherever they choose and live with the consequences. You miss out on a great night but you made the choice so your benefit is you also get to keep your money in your pocket! It's not any fan's right to dictate the decisions and risks a business owner makes, just as it's not any fan's responsibility to give a **** if what's being served up isn't for them and they shouldn't feel pressured to. Nobody owes anyone anything here. Sorted.

brianblaze

noisenotmusic wrote: »

But the move outward will be affecting those people who travel to Dublin as well, probably even more so. The main issue is leaving the venue, not getting there.

Whenever the stadium shows run past 10pm you can see a good few people heading to the door for last buses, the basketball arena in Tallaght is over an hour from the city centre by city bus. The second a show runs beyond 9 or 10pm in the new place people will be eyeing the door, if any of them run as late as some of the Stadium shows have (12pm+) how on earth is anyone supposed to get out of there? There's not going to be enough taxis to cater for 500/1000 people looking to get home.

In fairness, if people are that concerned about getting home, they can drive? Also, it's harder to get a taxi in town these days thean on the outskirts with MyTaxi or whatever.

There is zero point complaiing in the fact that a small Irish promotion has graduated toa much larger venue, we should be celebrating that fact

noisenotmusic

But the move outward will be affecting those people who travel to Dublin as well, probably even more so. The main issue is leaving the venue, not getting there.

Whenever the stadium shows run past 10pm you can see a good few people heading to the door for last buses, the basketball arena in Tallaght is over an hour from the city centre by city bus. The second a show runs beyond 9 or 10pm in the new place people will be eyeing the door, if any of them run as late as some of the Stadium shows have (12pm+) how on earth is anyone supposed to get out of there? There's not going to be enough taxis to cater for 500/1000 people looking to get home.

diusmr8a504cvk

If I hear one person complain about this Luas or that Luas, or the number of buses to get across the city I'll flip.

There's people (myself included) who've had to travel the length of the country to get to those shows on day-long trips. There's people who get the bus up from Limerick and straight back down after the show arriving home at stupid o'clock in the morning.

So for God's sake stop complaining about your miniscule trips to see a card with PAC, Will Ospreay, Walter, etc.

brianblaze

showpony1 wrote: »

it would be €40+ per trip in a taxi for me to Tallaght and I enjoy a gargle. If it was a Sat night in town don't mind the taxi home after staying out after the show - obviously city center being closer to home too.

Had to experience teens running up and down banging on the doors of the Luas, screaming and shouting to get to Suir road. This should be another interesting experience.

I live in Lusk and I'll happily get a taxi home if I want a few beers. Complaining about it being a few quid to get to/ from is a bit reduntant if you live within a 40 quid taxi ride away. Plenty of people come up from the sticks to the shows!

oneilla

noisenotmusic wrote: »

It's only one bus from where I am and I think it's too far. It's over an hour travel each way. Fine for one offs or special events but not every month. Part of what made OTT so good was the fact it was in town, in a place that served cheap drink as well as the great show. The Stadium shows were a great treat every few months. OTT know this themselves thought, the tweet from Joey complaining about venues shows he knows what made OTT appealing as a package. I'll still head to the Basketball Arena just as I did to Suir Road a couple of times but if it becomes the regular venue it'll die off fairly fast.

I think it's fair to say they outgrew Tivoli a good while ago. They stopped doing the cheap drink/cans promotion.

noisenotmusic

It's only one bus from where I am and I think it's too far. It's over an hour travel each way. Fine for one offs or special events but not every month. Part of what made OTT so good was the fact it was in town, in a place that served cheap drink as well as the great show. The Stadium shows were a great treat every few months. OTT know this themselves thought, the tweet from Joey complaining about venues shows he knows what made OTT appealing as a package. I'll still head to the Basketball Arena just as I did to Suir Road a couple of times but if it becomes the regular venue it'll die off fairly fast.

diusmr8a504cvk

showpony1 wrote: »

The problem for us normal fans who don't want to be taking two buses out to Tallaght on a Sunday night is that there are lads who would crawl over broken glass for the right to go out there to queue up from 10am so they won't care.

Just for clarity:

Are you complaining about having to take two buses across the city to get to the event?

showpony1

Omackeral wrote: »

Screaming and shouting. That's rough. Imagine being in a hot ECW crowd back in the day. I heard they used to curse too!

Really felt unsafe when the OTT crowd get going with "Tracey is a W*anker la la la la"

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Screaming and shouting. That's rough. Imagine being in a hot ECW crowd back in the day. I heard they used to curse too!

showpony1

brianblaze wrote: »

Would you not drive/ get a taxi?

it would be €40+ per trip in a taxi for me to Tallaght and I enjoy a gargle. If it was a Sat night in town don't mind the taxi home after staying out after the show - obviously city center being closer to home too.

Had to experience teens running up and down banging on the doors of the Luas, screaming and shouting to get to Suir road. This should be another interesting experience.

brianblaze

showpony1 wrote: »

The problem for us normal fans who don't want to be taking two buses out to Tallaght on a Sunday night is that there are lads who would crawl over broken glass for the right to go out there to queue up from 10am so they won't care.

Would you not drive/ get a taxi?

showpony1

The problem for us normal fans who don't want to be taking two buses out to Tallaght on a Sunday night is that there are lads who would crawl over broken glass for the right to go out there to queue up from 10am so they won't care.

noisenotmusic

Basketball Arena is such a pain to get to on a regular basis, takes quite a while to get out from town to there. At least there's somewhere as a stopgap.

rizzla

Been a long time since I was in the Basketball Arena... Is there a bar?

Jerichoholic

Trailer is confusing as to who is wrestling who and what the cage is for.

Angron

Sorely tempted to go to that show in February. Really wanna see Pac and Ilya.

cian68

Omackeral wrote: »

Went to National Basketball Arena as a severely hungover 17 year old

No such thing. Now when I get hangovers at 27 I remember being 17 as just doing Shawn Michaels kip ups in the morning.

Jerichoholic

WWE should think about running there now with their dwindling attendances.

Furious-Red

Wesley Red Zipper wrote: »

Homecoming to take place in the National Basketball Arena. 2.5K capacity but would have more with floor seating you'd imagine. Don't know if this is a permanent fix or what though.

They could probably close off certain areas?