jmreire wrote: » Yes it has drifted off topic...that happens, but I will tell you one thing relative to to the topic in an oblique way. You will not see that kind of behavior, gangs of teens and young adults running wild, robbing and terrorist residents in any Muslim Country.....and that's for sure !!!!
MewashS wrote: » This thread is so off topic... There is a gang of youths from Balbriggan (no matter if they are black, white, green or pink), traveling to quiet seaside villages to cause havoc. They are stealing, beating and assaulting teenagers and women. This has to stop and it will stop. If Gardaí can't cope with it, residents will sort it out in no time.
VeryTerry wrote: » This is one of the stupidest posts I've seen on this forum. Muslims in a Muslim country go to the police, solicitors, judges etc when there is a problem.
jmreire wrote: » And the relevant quote concerning "TAQIYYA" ??? Which says something else.
Odhinn wrote: » Nope.https://www.alislam.org/library/question/islam-obedience-law-of-land/ "When one lives in a particular country, one agrees verbally, in writing or effectively to adhere to the rules and regulations of that country. This, according to Shariah, is considered to be a covenant, agreement and trust. One is obliged to fulfil the trust regardless of whether it is contracted with a friend, enemy, Muslim, non-Muslim or a government. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and his Companions (Allah be pleased with them all) always stood by their word and did not breach any trust or agreement, as it is clear from the books of Sunnah and history. Thus, to break a promise or breach a trust of even a non-Muslim is absolutely unlawful and considered a sign of being a hypocrite (munafiq)."http://www.daruliftaa.com/node/5852
jmreire wrote: » The whole point I was trying to make in reply to Dannyriver was that Muslims owe allegiance to Sharia and only Sharia Law, even if they don't practice Sharia openly .................
Odhinn wrote: » They were treated as would be anyone handing out religous pamphlets. That's hardly a takeover
jmreire wrote: » https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-01/germany-submits-sharia-law
Odhinn wrote: » You have examples of this as regards Germany?
jmreire wrote: » As I explained earlier, for a Muslim, there is only one law, and that's Sharia. As to whether it will ever be legal here in Ireland, that remains to be seen...does not look like it presently,,but for the future??? In Germany ( and other Countries too ) sections of Sharia have been incorporated into local laws.Quite simply because of the sheer volume of cases flooding the judicial system...it was easier to " let them do their own thing" and ignore it. Its all a question of Nrs. And when the Nrs are right, Muslims will push for Sharia. I don't know if you would like that or not, but I would not, and thats why it IS my business.
Dannyriver wrote: » It wasn t advice It doesn t bother me what you think one way or another. I'm only giving my opinion same as yourself. Many cultures and families settle disputes without engaging in the legal system that s being going on for years. And if they don t get caught as you say , then no one finds out again it's none of my or your business unless they break Irish law in the process and get caught while doing it, same rules apply for everyone. Why? cos Sharia law is not the law nor is there any threat of it becoming that way.
jmreire wrote: » For a Muslims either Shia, Sunni, Wahabbi or any other branch of Islam, regardless of which Country or situation they find themselves in, the Quran and Sharia over rides all other Laws....Sure they will obey the Law of the Land they are in, and if they break it and are caught they will be subject to it, as they have to be, BUT for them there is only one Law, and that's Sharia. Everything they do is governed by that. And it's happening all over Europe, including Ireland.Muslims are bound to observe Sharia, and they do, even if it's not in a high profile way. A Muslim will go to his local Mosque for advice every time for everything, and in every situation. He cannot do otherwise, and still call himself a Muslim. Say for example, a Muslim has a dispute with a fellow Muslim , do you think that they go to a Solicitor / Lawyer / Attorney ( pick whichever is appropriate ) to solve the problem for them? No, they will go to the local Imam let him hear their case. Based on what is under dispute, the Imam will consult the relevant section under Sharia Law, and give his verdict.This has the benefit of being very quick and very cheap.....Sharia Law is not expensive. So its another reason why Muslims will use it, but the main reason is that they are bound by the Quoran to use it.
jmreire wrote: » Dannyriver : They will face Irish / Eu law, but only if they are caught........bear in mind that there are some very big differences between EU /Irish Law...and they go by Sharia. Like I mentioned earlier, They don't do it in a public or high profile way. as that would be having two sets of Laws, and that would be breaking Irish Law. None the less, In Germany, some German laws have been adapted to take into account sections of Sharia... especially where it involves having multiple wife's. Its not my business??? Sorry but I'll decide what is or is not my business, but thanks all the same for the advice.
Billy Mays wrote: » Okay, thick was a bit harsh. Apologies. Playing dumb isn't a good luck though
All Seeing Eye wrote: » A suitable hobby for Ireland alright and your calling me thick. Though you’ll probably say you live in Switzerland or somewhere like that.
Dannyriver wrote: » Sorry but how they deal with disputes that dont break Irish law is none of my business or yours for that matter. If anyone breaks the law in Ireland they face the Irish justice system. If they can sort their own problems without having to pay for expensive solicitors fair pay to them as long as they don t break Irish law in the process cos then they ll face the Irish justice system.
Billy Mays wrote: » Snowboarder actually. Not a bad guess though.
TeaBagMania wrote: » i literally LOL'd, Billy you crack me up. and I bet you have a Hillary sticker on your prius, but if you're in Ireland you probably drive a french built POS of some sort
evolving tipperary wrote: » I hear the African Gang is Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor does everything, doesn't he?
All Seeing Eye wrote: » What are you a surfer? The classic passive aggressive anyway
TeaBagMania wrote: » i get a laugh every time you ask, so no but please keep asking and maybe ill post the link i found
Billy Mays wrote: » Does it? No offense here dude, but you sound very thick to me
