woddensanta wrote: » Hang on here just a minute, are you telling me that when you question some Muslims as to if they are a radical Islamist and despise other religions or faiths some of them say no????? Can I ask what news houses you have approached with this ground-breaking research? This information should be publicized more as it could help assuage the fears of people worried about all the murdering the Islamists commit around Europe due to their hate of other religions.
Sonics2k wrote: » Ah yes, round up thousands of people on the possibility that they might be an extremist.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Demetrius Ironically, actions like this are considerably more likely to create extremists than they are to prevent them. A little bit of education goes a long way.
Danzy wrote: » In fairness to the French, British police etc, there would be attacks weekly if not for their effort. One downside is that people do not realise the scale of this threat is much bigger than even the pessimists think.
Nala Creamy Mountaineer wrote: » The criminal (still on the loose) has x27 convictions across x3 EU states. Perhaps the EU should smarten up on it's internal borders, nevermind it's already porous external borders (served by taxi boats and smugglers). Technically Ireland, being an island, off another island, should be very safe compared to the EU mainland, but then again the x4 lads that jumped out of a truck via Spainish port months ago in Co Laois, only showed up on the radar last week.
Grayson wrote: » So you're in favour of a hard border and checkpoints with the north then. Since it's now an internal, soon to be external, border?
Danzy wrote: » Boxing is not their religion, not a core of their identity. That is common the world over. Community is not organised on boxing.
MarkHenderson wrote: » Look the fact is this is the new normal. Most of these attacks are carried out by nutcase Muslims who have no direct connection to ISIS/Al Qaeda or any other flavor of the month Islamic groupings and tbh that's more worrying to me. We have vast amounts of Muslim mostly men who feel it's okay to go around killing us because we don't believe in or we take the piss out of their particular brand of sky fairy. Personally speaking i don't want Ireland to end up like parts of France and think we should put strict limits on inward migration from Islamic countries. If that makes we a racist then so be it.
DanDan6592 wrote: » So you've no evidence whatsoever other than the number of rascist metal bands. Come back to me with some actually evidence please. Most victims of knife crime in London are not some innocent people going about there business, they are involved in crime themselves. And they don't go on killing sprees regardless. Stabbing one person isn't a spree. Regardless, racism isn't an excuse to join a gang or become a terrorist and go about stabbing and killing people.
yoke wrote: » You don’t need a religion to have an identity. People who seek identities in religion are... seeking an identity
CinemaGuy45 wrote: » You add nothing to this board your just a troll and you have disrupted every thread you have spewed your garbage in.I will be 100% honest I suspect that boards.ie has leftwing leanings that are why posters like you are allowed to get away with your outrages behaviour. Innocent people are dead yet again and I am sad and furious and I am calling you on your BS.
Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: » I’m engaged to an Indian woman. Send a pm if you want her story. Or don’t because I already gave her story. I should possibly have said the stories are not that representative, and we both have different anecdotes. If racism exists in Ireland, expressed hatred and racism, it exists amongst the feral underclass and to tackle that would need a functioning police force and judiciary.
Nala Creamy Mountaineer wrote: » Nope, the x4 fellows jumped into the back of a lorry in Spain, and sprung out in the middle Co.Loais. Thus they bypassed two major international shipping ports. As an island (surrounded by water), yes would require better checks at ports here (a road border isn't a shipping/air port). More staff at Belfast port/airport is now a given now with brexit, So thus more staff should be also be present at Rosslare going forward. It may even require staff placed at French/Spanish ports where numbers will likely dramtically increase after Britian leaves.
Danzy wrote: » No but it is often part of their identity. It defines their values and life. Born in to those values, grew up with them. I would see the increasing fervour and absolutist thinking of so many activists on the Left as like those seeking a new religion.
fatbhoy wrote: » RTE news this morning reported this as the action "an extremist", with no mention of him being "an Islamist extremist". Sanitised news reporting. They think it's for the best, but it's actually not: it's doing society a disservice by eliding the most important point.
yoke wrote: » Why is that the most important point? Is there some sort of points scoring system in place, where you get negative points for Anders Breivik and that guy who ran over a bunch of people in Charlottesville and that guy who killed a bunch of people in a mosque, compared to positive points if the attack was carried out by an ethnic minority guy?
Grayson wrote: » There's zero checks at our border. It's about as open as you can get. Yet you're complaining about open internal borders within the Eu. Our border is one of those.
fatbhoy wrote: » It wakes people up to the threat Islam poses to Europe. And people need waking.
Danzy wrote: » The modern Left has gone absolutely nuts and is doubling down on that. The younger generation is at another level. Far removed from the vagaries of life, especially for the bottom half , hell even the bottom 3/4s.
yoke wrote: » So by your logic, Anders Breivik wakes people up to the threat posed by single loner white males to Europe. These guys must be stopped!
topper75 wrote: » This. And a throw in a fetish for the ethnic. An ethnic culture that must be defended from would-be bullies - that is how they view islam. To attain this view attacks are put in a 'the west began it' frame. Often these type of leftists want little to do with trade unions, zero hour contract issues, or squeezed workers. The unglamourous but authentic traditional left paradigm is a total yawn to them. They will often resort to equally nuts paradigms to defend welfare layabouts, seeing them as 'the poor' from a Charles Dickens novel, again victims of nasty bullies that need a noble defender. The idea of proletariat is unlinked with actual labour and wages in their minds. They are typically young (but not always) and very active online, chasing kudos and cachet through virtue signalling: "Look at me - I'm a good person".
SnakePlissken wrote: » You'll soon get the usual suspects harping on about how shameful this thread is as it's just an outlet for some to revel in their supposed "Islamophobia". That yet again this attack was committed by one known to the police is yet another horrid reminder that governments throughout Europe are far too complacent about how they treat these watch lists. RIP to the victims and may the attacker soon be put down.
Omackeral wrote: » We know Anders Brevik by name because he isn't the norm when it comes to this type of atrocity. How many of the Islamist killers that caused havoc through Europe do any of us know by name? Brevik is pretty much the exception to the rule on this, from a fundamental point of view.
yoke wrote: » I know Breiviks name because it was on the news for months. No other reason. What about that guy who shot a bunch of people at the mosque?
yoke wrote: » Why would you completely discount something like the existence of lots of racist bands as good evidence of racism existing in that society? Is there a logic to the type of evidence you will count?
yoke wrote: » You keep making stupid statements like “Most victims of knife crime in London are not some innocent people going about their business” without taking into account that most “innocent people” who have “business” have enough money to stay away from ****hole areas like Brixton, while the “innocent people” who stay in places like that quite often can’t get jobs and end up in a downward spiral of having to defend themselves against these idiots with knives, so they carry knives themselves, etc.
yoke wrote: » Stabbing one person isn’t a spree. Wow. How many is a spree then? Does it have to be all in the same week, or is it OK to spread out the stabbings over a year?
yoke wrote: » A little bit of thought and you would easily realize that the reason the people who go on sprees, go on sprees, is because they know they’ll be caught and stopped. The same type of people exist in Brixton who know they won’t be caught and won’t be stopped, so they don’t need to go on sprees, they just stab whoever they like for looking at them wrong
CinemaGuy45 wrote: » Always previously known to police the victims' families should be taken legal action against these looney leftwing governments.:(
Sonics2k wrote: » Here's what really get's me about this whole thing. So, so often in the cases of these shootings the culprit is known to the police. Far too often they don't make a move on the person as they're hoping to get the ringleaders or higher up members of these terrorist organisations. These killings could have been stopped had the authorities taken action sooner and locked this guy up. It's also very wrong to say "send him back where he came from", because extremely often we find out the person happens to be born and raised in the area and is not a migrant. They are often the children of happily settled migrants who have never, and would never, commit these kinds of atrocities. I have no issue with migrants or refugees who come here to work, but honestly I say string up the terrorists and to hell with their rights.
weldoninhio wrote: » Were there many German extremists around Ireland after 1945 after they were interned during the war?? Many Japanese extremists in the US after internment after Pearl Harbour?
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