kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
robindch wrote: » all you've to do is whinge about complexity
joe40 wrote: » I find it amazing that the northern ireland border is the main sticking point now but was hardly mentioned at all during the Brexit campaign or the general election. Either staggering arrogance or staggering stupidity.
Douglas Thoughtless Headache wrote: » All the bookies have reigned in the odds of a 2nd Ref. It's getting to more or less close to an 'evens chance' they might even call one, perhaps just to prospone anyone taking any real decisions. Hard to know if the 17.4m will sit back and take being asked again, or take inspiration from their Frenchy cousions who just threw a strop over diesel prices.
theguzman wrote: » After a No deal they can then go an negotiate whatever they want instead of the EU putting a gun to their heads, a few months of lost sales to the German Auto Industry will soon see Mutti instruct her subordinates in Brussels and her lapdog Macron to give the British what they are asking for.
theguzman wrote: » a few months of lost sales to the German Auto Industry will soon see Mutti instruct her subordinates in Brussels and her lapdog Macron to give the British what they are asking for.
listermint wrote: » The 17.4 million was a bunch of people tired of the malaise and given an apparent easy answer to their delusion with the government. They are not a fixed bunch nor is there still anywhere near 17.4 million this time. Its only folks that are willing for brexit to occur keep quoting this figure.
theguzman wrote: » The mainstream media and vast majority of the British political liberal elite were in favour of remaining in the EU and they basically rubbished the idea and had such total arrogance and certainty that they never expected the UK to actually leave in the first place. Nigel Farage and a host of other British Patriots had other things to say about that and the British electorate made a very well informed decision and smartly decided to leave. David Cameron himself a staunch Europhile resigned the following day and his political gamble to appease the Euroskeptics backfired badly on him. Theresa May then doubled down by calling an Early election only to lose her Majority and put the DUP and Euroskeptics in firm control. It has all been very entertaining to watch and watching the liberal Europhiles squirm as they lost and refuse to accept it has been all the better.
Douglas Thoughtless Headache wrote: » 17,400,000 from 2016 is the only refrence point we have to look upon, unless your sitting upon a crystal ball and know the internal thinking of about 60m folks, in which case would also like to know who will the Superbowl LIII. Please don't mention some slightly random 'new poll' that asked 1,000 random blokes in the pub, filled with shandies, what they would vote 2nd time around. Like the numbers or not, it's only the folks who still think it was just a bad dream, (like Trump the POTUS), who are certain it didn't actually happen, nor could ever happen again. Likely v2.0 went ahead, it wouldn't be a boolean question, but rather multi-choice, full of conditional (if/when) statements, all rich in word-play that leads to further mayhem.
listermint wrote: » What random poll is that yougov? Or the polls that cost nearly two million to run just once ? Look accum I know you've a penchant for brexit so you don't offer serious discussion when you make remarks like as couple or blokes down the pub , you only make it easy to descredit you. Don't do that.
Douglas Thoughtless Headache wrote: » Look lefty listy, I know your a left extremist/radical, and that's fair enough. I don't support brexit, so don't please don't offer up sheer lies. On the otherhand, I understand/predicted how it occured (like Trump), and would also predict a messy situation if they called it again. There would no easy guarantee of what way it would go, so don't assume with certaintly you already know the result. It would even more difficult to call than the 1st one. And don't put a monetary price on holding any referendum, it's a democratic choice for the people not a commercial purchase to consider.
listermint wrote: » Lefty listy. How very schoolyard of you well don't did you think that one up in between paddy power logins Werent you advocating irexit at one point.... I'll get plenty of miles out of that. Democracy doesn't end after a single vote. Thought you might know that. Alas... Perhaps not
An Ciarraioch wrote: » Euro rapidly hurtling to 91p - at least the Northern shopping centres will profit from the chaos.
Douglas Thoughtless Headache wrote: » So you'd maybe support a yearly brexit vote, that would stop when they get the right answer that you prefer. Hmm sounds very democratic.
road_high wrote: » So Tessie is off to Holland in the morning for more begging. How likely are the EU chiefs to give them even more concessions?
Douglas Thoughtless Headache wrote: » Yet more lies, paranoid much? There's tablets for that. To clarify again, neither support any Irexit, but can predict a growing appetite for it if certain conditions occurs. Prediction isn't support. It's foresight, anyone outside of the schoolyard, should be able to perceive that. It might be cold next week, I'd rather it wasn't, but what can you do.So you'd maybe support a yearly brexit vote, that would stop when they get the right answer that you prefer. Hmm sounds very democratic.
lawred2 wrote: » lucky for us we've only had the one GE since the foundation of the state otherwise it would have been an affront to democracy
