demfad wrote: » Facilitating "Safe, Orderly and regular migration" describes actions toward exiting migration. It does not facilitate migration, in fact it reduces that prospect. It facilitates making migration safer etc. You are deliberately and dishonestly misleading.
To describe it as mass or otherwise you must substantiate and quantify it. How do you evaluate "rapid demographic change".
Migration that creates rapid demographic change in relatively short periods of time. You could alternatively define it as migration that is of such a scale that it creates large populations able to resist assimilation and sustain their own culture. Sweden for example is only track for the Swedes to become a minority in their own homeland within our lifetimes if they a) don't increase their fertility and b) don't end mass migration into Sweden. In London the English have already become a minority in their own capital, with Birmingham soon to follow. In Germany, politicians now acknowledges that Germans will also become a minority in their own cities, but that this fine. The story is the same across western Europe to varying degrees.
The compact seeks to reduce existing migration and make migration safer. Your assertion is baseless.
Migration of peoples happen for a variety of reasons. You would think with the upcoming climate change cataclysm that opponents of migration would be advocates of a global response to human made climate breakdown or wars or other drivers of human movement. But no, your solution is based on barbed wire guns and firing statistics out to make these people appear lesser. It is petty, and ultimately it is stupid.
Sand wrote: » In London the English have already become a minority in their own capital,
BRITAIN will sign a controversial new legislation proposal put forward by the United Nations (UN) which could see people who criticise EU migration policies jailed and makes immigration a universal human right.
political analyst wrote: » https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1053064/United-nations-Global-Compact-for-Safe-Orderly-and-Regular-Migration-Alistair-Burt-italy Is this true?
Redneck Culchie wrote: » There is a protest against Ireland signing the UN Migration Pact without any debate, protest is outside the Dail tomorrow 6/6.30pm. Organised by Irexit party but all those who oppose the signing of the UN Migration Pact are welcome to attend. Expecting a decent crowd hopefully. It won't be the usual PBP types at it either.
hill16bhoy wrote: » Your link is from that rag the Daily Express, so what do you think?
hill16bhoy wrote: » Source please.
RandomName2 wrote: » You really are pretty cheeky, you know that? Ask for sources, discredit sources, change the goalposts, and call the person you're talking to a racist. Is that a typical approach you follow? I know you mean well, but you're doing your position no favors.
English people make up 44.9% of the population of London. Are you actually taking the piss? Everybody knows that crime has risen in Germany because of migration, and you glibly declare otherwise. Everyone knows that English people are a minority in London, so naturally you query this as well. You should fight battles you can win. Throwing up idiotic roadblocks that people can easily disprove are going to do your arguments no favors, at all.
Redneck Culchie wrote: » Well I was wrong the Profit Before People and their rent a mob anarchist pals did indeed show up. They had a counter protest of about 30-40. Was about 150 of us protesting on the Irexit/UN Migration Pact side. A very decent turnout on a Thursday evening. All normal ordinary people unlike the professional protestors with PBP. They were a truely pathetic bunch. Gardai did a good job keeping the peace and there was no violence just threats and abuse being hurled. Lucky for the posh PBP bourgeois scum who would have had their arse handed to them very easily if they tried anything. The days of Antifa running people off the streets are well over.
hill16bhoy wrote: » i) Is the Daily Express a reputable source? ii) Is the claim true? I'll give you a hint on both counts - the answer is no.
hill16bhoy wrote: » I asked the previous poster for a source. You haven't provided a source. Oh, and by the way "everybody knows" isn't a source either. Everybody knows that. Except you, it seems.
Redneck Culchie wrote: » Good one shinner. Nothing extreme right at all about last night, if I was you I'd be bricking it, the amount of ex Sinn Fein members and voters I met last night was amazing. Guess that is what happens when you turn into the Labour Party haha. You lot are ****ing history.
Podge_irl wrote: » What court? It would not be enshrined in Irish or European law.
Dallas Thousands Ammonia wrote: » The Daily Express sells little compared to the likes of the Mail, Sun, or Mirror. However it still greatly outsells the extreme left's news handbook i.e. the Guardian - which sells the very least of all daily national newspapers. Q. Did you actually check the 2011 census for youself? A. No.The 'White British' classification only makes up 44.9% of all Londoners. So compared to all other enthicities combined (that are not white british), they would indeed appear to be technically outnumbered as such.
hill16bhoy wrote: » I'm not a "Shinner", mate. I'm not a member of any political party and have no fixed party loyalty - but nice attempt at a straw man. You've just said 150 people turned up, and given that you have a heavy vested interest in bigging up the turnout, we can safely assume it was nowhere near that. Even at your claimed upper limit of 150, it's utterly hilarious to see you claim that the "amount of ex-Sinn Fein voters" you met "was amazing". You evidently have a very, very low amazement threshold.
Redneck Culchie wrote: » Yep he is, can tell by his posting. He was attacking people for voting Casey in the last election. Even his name gives it away, a typical Celtic supporting Sinn Fein lout.
Redneck Culchie wrote: » Ah yes the typical "I'm not actually a Shinner" routine yet you post their rhetoric non stop. Why don't you fellas just admit you vote for Sinn Fein? Because you would have to stand over their nonsense. Easier to attack everyone else isn't it. There was easily 150, maybe even 200 including people at the sides supporting us quietly. A number of republicans were present. Sinn Fein are more likely to wave the rainbow flag than the tricolour these days.
hill16bhoy wrote: » Non-whites are not British now, apparently.
RandomName2 wrote: » And the Mail, Sputnik, RT, Sun, Breitbart, Fox. Is there anything else on the banned list? Google it! For something that's common knowledge the onus is on you not to be lazy! Laziness does not excuse ignorance.https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/census-reveals-white-britons-as-minority-in-capital-for-first-time-8405998.htmlhttps://www.ft.com/content/4bd95562-4379-11e2-a48c-00144feabdc0https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-21511904https://mangomap.com/demographics/mapshttps://www.londonmedicine.ac.uk/londons-landscape/population/ethnicity-in-london/http://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/london-population/https://data.london.gov.uk/topic/demographics Wait, is he a Sinn Fein guy? That would actually explain a lot.
hill16bhoy wrote: » non-white people cannot be English or British.
Dallas Thousands Ammonia wrote: » Calm down dear, the census referes to 'ethnicity', the census doesn't care if you sing 'god song the ...' every morning or wave bunting. It only cares what box (people themselves) actually tick on the census form. It only cares about hard data, stats and such. If Hans from Holland, who lives in London wants to tick the Dutch box by himself, is that not allowed now? Is he not allowed to identify to his heritage, must he become british as soon as he steps of his KLM flight? Maybe post your crocadles tears in a glass jar, to their Office for National Statistics.
hill16bhoy wrote: » The claim was made that English people are a minority in London. Who's the calm one again?
hill16bhoy wrote: » The claim was made that English people are a minority in London. This is disinformation. It is FALSE.
Dallas Thousands Ammonia wrote: » They can be whatever the choose to be, they tick the box that they identify to best, by themselves. Sounds like you want to force people to become what YOU want them to be.
hill16bhoy wrote: » Ah, and now we cut to the chase. Non-whites are not British now, apparently. It's always, always, always the racism, stupid.
hill16bhoy wrote: » This is what I wrote, mate. Please don't try and selectively edit my quotes like that to try and make it appear that I said something which is the direct opposite of what I said. It's utterly pathetic, and sadly utterly predictable from the extreme right. And very ironic, given that you clearly hold the sort of disgusting view that you were trying to mendaciously ascribe to me.
Dallas Thousands Ammonia wrote: » It's very highly likely in this case the other poster meant 'white english', or even muti-generational, traditional english.
In London the English have already become a minority in their own capital
DS86DS wrote: » Article from 2013 stating white natives a minority in London.https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-21511904
hill16bhoy wrote: » This is what the poster wrote.
DS86DS wrote: » Extreme Right this........ Extreme Right that..,.........bla bla bla......... racist........ extreme
hill16bhoy wrote: » And I've been proven thoroughly correct.
