killanena wrote: » Only the days I work, so 4 nights a week usually. I rarely go out or drink on my days off. I need something to relax after work as usually by the time I get home, I've 3-4 hours before I have to go to bed and get up again the next morning. I just can't relax or sit still as my job can be very physically demanding at times. Especially this time of year. I do skip it every so often, if I'm feeling unwell or have something else important to do after work etc. I don't really get tispy either, 2 or 3 over a 4 hour period with the tolerance I've built up. I don't see it as a problem.
Fordcspri23 wrote: » Do you have regular sexual intercourse?
B0jangles wrote: » ......... Yeah I know there's those mini bottles of wine, but only weirdos buy them.
BENDYBINN wrote: » 63.7% of statistics are made up fact!
killanena wrote: » I'd have a 2-3 cans/bottles most nights when I'm working. Helps me relax, forget about the day and sleep. Yes it does effect your health in the long run but my mental health thanks me for it In my opinion, someone who is an alcoholic is someone who let's drink impact them or their families life's negatively. And there is quite a few of them in my family. Including my mother.
DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: » They had good genes. They reckon about 5% of the human pop can get away with life long hard living. The vast majority of people though are going to be eventually affected by long term bad lifestyle choices.
Ardillaun wrote: » Either way, the more important point is that a daily consumption of a bottle of average strength wine is way too much. These days, beer is often 5-7% and is sold in ever larger bottles so one can get into 10 UK unit territory no bother while quietly watching the telly.
Peregrinus wrote: » This can get confusing. We don't have "units" in Ireland; we have "standard drinks". Other countries also have "standard drinks", but the standard drink varies from country to country, from a low of 8g/10ml of pure alcohol in Iceland, to a high of 19.75g/25ml in Japan. This makes for much confusion, when people read about various recommendations expressed in terms of different standard drinks, either not realising that standard drinks vary from country to country or not appreciating that the recommendation they are looking at comes from another country. Further confusion results from the fact that a typical drink (as in, the quantity normally served to someone) will usually contain rather more than one standard drink, but people frequently do not appreciate this. The "unit" terminology was adopted in the UK in the mid-80s in an attempt to fix this problem. SFAIK the UK is the only country to express its alcohol intake recommendations in units, so "unit" is unambiguous; it always refers to 8g/10ml of alcohol. The Irish standard drink contains 1.25 UK units. A pint of 4.5% alcohol-by-volume beer contains about 1.9 Irish standard drinks, or 2.35 UK units.
In Ireland, there is much confusion on what constitutes a typical or ‘standard drink’. Part of the confusion stems from the use of the ‘UK unit’, which is inappropriate in the Irish context. The UK unit was devised in the early 1970’s as a simple method to calculate the alcoholic strength in different drinks. The purpose was to help scientists and health professionals in the clinical setting estimate alcohol consumption for comparative purposes. The measure used was called a ‘unit of alcohol’ and related to the most common drinks and alcohol content of drinks served in the UK. A ‘UK unit of alcohol’ is found in a half pint of beer (3.5%ABV) or a small glass of wine (100ml) or a single measure of spirits (1/6 gill) and equals 8 grams of pure alcohol. Although the UK unit was used in Ireland, it did not reflect the typical strength or serving measure of drinks sold in Ireland. For example, a single measure of spirits is larger (1/4gill vs. 1/6gill) in Ireland. A pilot study undertaken in 2000 showed that a typical drink in Ireland was equal to 10 grams of alcohol and called a ‘standard drink’ reflecting the alcohol content and typical serving sizes in Ireland. Therefore, the UK unit measure is not appropriate and should not be used in Ireland. In the international arena, a standard drink is the usual term used. The UK unit (8 grams) is the lowest standard drink measure used. Some countries use 10 grams as their standard drink measure including Spain, Italy, New Zealand and Australia while others have higher or no measures. The key factor is to provide accurate and reliable information in the Irish context for health professionals, policy makers and the general population in Ireland.
jacksn wrote: » I went on holiday to France last year, over there I enjoyed a lot of wine and since then I would have a bottle of wine every day, I feel like I can stop anytime but I do enjoy it.. am I a dipso?
igCorcaigh wrote: » Sorry, yes. Im a little drunk.
gctest50 wrote: » That relationship holds true for work abscences due to musculoskeletal injuries, digestive disorders,
gctest50 wrote: » I know it wasn't by skynews, that's why i put this in the middle of my post : More waffle. Lets take it bit by bit : People who avoid alcohol are :50 per cent more likely to take have a mental health-related absence from work50 per cent more likely
Peregrinus wrote: » Maybe, gctest50, but that doesn't mean that they are more likely to take a mental health break because they don't drink. The causation could indeed work the other way; they may have mental health issues as a result of which they have been advised not to drink.
Habitual drinkers, not alcoholics, account for most people with alcohol-related liver disease. Experts are particularly concerned at the rise in the number of young people — up almost three-fold — and women with the potentially fatal disease.
We have all seen it in our practice, an increased number patients admitted to hospital, young people in particular and increasingly women, with complications, illness and death due to alcohol,” said Prof Frank Murray, the college chairman. He said a lot of patients were not dependent, but were “habitual” drinkers, whose level and frequency of consumption was higher than recommended.
“A lot of people think that’s for alcoholics, the binge drinkers — it doesn’t affect me or my family. In fact, it affects everybody.” He said he recently had a case of a widow who increased her wine drinking after she lost her husband and developed liver disease. “She would be appalled to be labelled an alcoholic. It’s very easy for consumption levels to come up and become normalised. It’s ordinary people that are doing it.” He said relatives often ring him asking can he remove alcohol from the death certificate, an issue he has raised with the coroner.
Peregrinus wrote: » Nitpick: the "unit of alcohol" is 10 ml of pure alcohol and has been since the concept was invented; it has never changed. What has changed is the recommended intake, but this change hasn't always been a reduction. Changes have been driven both by improved understanding of the effects of alcohol consumption, and by observing the effect of recommendations on behaviour. For example, in the mid-1990s, the recommended maximimum intake was 21 units per week for men, 14 per week for women. But observation showed that a signficant proportion of people "saved up" their units for the weekend, and consumed the bulk of them in a single evening ("binge drinking"). This led to the conclusion that the way the recommendation was expressed was giving people false reassurance that binge drinking, within the weekly limit, was not h harmful, which is of course wrong. So the advice was changed to 3-4 unjits per day for men, 2-3 for women. Expressed in weekly terms, this is in fact a higher limit than the previous advice.
Long-term intake of more than 30 g of absolute alcohol per day increases the risk of alcoholic liver disease; liver disease is nearly certain in long-term consumption in excess of 80 g of absolute alcohol per day. Alcoholic liver disease may take the chronic form (steatosis, steatohepatitis, fibrosis, cirrhosis) or that of acute hepatitis. Steatosis is fully reversible, which does not apply to the other conditions; cirrhosis is associated with a markedly shortened life expectancy.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3321494/#!po=16.1765
wakka12 wrote: » The study was not by skynews. They just reported on it.https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180824103018.htm .....
gctest50 wrote: » ......This study ? Alcohol use and burden for 195 countries and territories, 1990–2016: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2016.
Alcohol use and burden for 195 countries and territories, 1990–2016: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2016.
wakka12 wrote: » Also Im sure the addiction and depressant effects of alcohol abuse far outweigh any advantages in most people
wakka12 wrote: » ......ideally no drinking is best for mental ..... health but if .............
wakka12 wrote: » There was a widely publicised study done this summer that showed theres no safe limit for alcohol consumption, of course a little bit of alcohol is not going to do much damage, but it still does damage, every drop of alcohol damages your health, but then again so does probably every hamburger from mcdonalds or can of coke but nobody cares about those unless theyre consumed to excess eitherhttps://news.sky.com/story/no-safe-level-of-alcohol-consumption-global-study-finds-11480718 Study also showed that drinking 35 units a week will take 4-5 years off most peoples lives, the OP is drinking 70 units a week, so could be risking taking a decade off their life if they dont cut down
Alcohol use and burden for 195 countries and territories, 1990–2016: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2016
wakka12 wrote: » ......ideally no drinking is best for mental and physical health but if .............
gctest50 wrote: » Have you a source for that claim ?
wakka12 wrote: » a bottle of wine a day is way over the weekly recommended low risk guideline so youre putting your health at risk even if youre not necessarily addicted You should be drinking at most about two bottles of wine spread over the course of a week with at least 2 days not drinking , and this is the very upper limit before you begin to have much higher chances of getting alcohol related liver diseases, heart diseases and cancers than the general population, ideally no drinking is best for mental and physical health but if you limit it to that its unlikely your health will be damaged
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