Glen_Quagmire wrote: » Waiting for our house to be built and considering getting the attic converted before we move in to save the hassle down the line. What would you estimate the price of converting an attic in a 3 bed semi with free run at it with nobody living there?
kceire wrote: Lots of unknowns. 20k
Glen_Quagmire wrote: » I would have thought 20k would be on the high side. I was thinking in the region of 12k would see it done. I understand there are different levels of finishes which will have an effect on overall cost but allowing the builder get straight in with nobody living there should have some savings associated with it I would have thought. Be interested to hear if anyone else done something similar and what they paid
Rows Grower wrote: » 5k.
Glen_Quagmire wrote: » The builder is looking for 25k to do it during construction which I thought was very expensive, even the estate agents said it was expensive that's why I said I will look elsewhere, however it will be a bigger job having to retrofit the attic rather than doing it from the start. I'll reach out to a few builders for quotes. I have a few photos of the show house attic but no idea how the attic will be built by the current builder when they are not converting the attic so it may be hard to price without seeing the finished attic in the flesh
kceire wrote: » Not a chance. When you wake up you’ll realise that. The problem is the current builder has to alter the air tightness envelope, insulation envelope from the already designed spec. Possible new service penetrations and also change all the doors in the house to fire doors, increase and extend the fire alarm system etc etc
Gileadi wrote: » Rows, anybody who does that work for 5k won’t be in business long
kceire wrote: The problem is the current builder has to alter the air tightness envelope, insulation envelope from the already designed spec. Possible new service penetrations and also change all the doors in the house to fire doors, increase and extend the fire alarm system etc etc
Rows Grower wrote: » Bearing in mind the contractor is going to be building the whole house from scratch as well as other houses in the estate, I don't see what the big deal is in converting an attic when he is going to have all the relevant tradesmen on board anyway. I don't think a plumber needs to be involved besides putting in an extra 7 foot rad and the basic carpentry work is going to be in place so apart from the sparks running his cables and doing his second fix, the extra slabbing, plastering, flooring and a couple of velux windows I can't see where all the money being quoted is needed.
Glen_Quagmire wrote: » Are you saying if an attic is converted, every door in the house needs to be changed to a fire door with automatic closers?
harr wrote: » For one the house probably hasn’t got planing for an attic Conversion and wouldn’t be signed off on if not built to spec on plans. Depending on the roof layout on plans you could be looking at a good bit of extra carpentry work as well as extra plumbing depending on where water tank was to be put. If drawing down a mortgage on house it going to have to be included on deeds.
selfbuild17 wrote: » 5k wouldn’t even buy the materials for what you are talking about
Glen_Quagmire wrote: » OK so I'm just after doing a bit of reading up on the building regulations based on comments received here. Looks like there is a fair bit of work required to convert an attic into a "habital space" and turning a two story building into a three storey building. This is where all doors need to be changed to fire doors with automatic closers and bedroom ceilings need to be fire rated and many more changes also. There is also planning permission required for this which also costs a few grand. Option 2 is to convert the attic into a "non-habital space" which does not require planning permission or upgrades to the existing house such as those mentioned above. I am assuming 99% of houses in Ireland are in this category? Obviously option 2 does not turn your house from a 3 bed to 4 bed house but it seems like a better (easier) option unless I am missing something else?
Rows Grower wrote: » Don't see the big deal myself but you obviously know everything.
kceire wrote: » I don’t know everything, but I know enough not to throw a figure from nowhere at the OP and give him/her nonsense advice.5k wouldn’t even buy the materials for the project. Will the Assigned Certifier sign off on the altered design?Again, 5k for all this plus more, not a chance. If he adds the attic at the time of construction then yes, he is building a 3 storey house and the fire safety regulations for 3 storey dwellings now come into play. If he adds the attic later, he can get away with only fitting self closing devices to all the other doors opening into the escape stair case.
Glen_Quagmire wrote: I understand there are different levels of finishes which will have an effect on overall cost but allowing the builder get straight in with nobody living there should have some savings associated with it I would have thought.
Glen_Quagmire wrote: I would have thought 20k would be on the high side. I was thinking in the region of 12k would see it done.
Carpenter wrote: 12k not a chance if you want it done right 17___19k
Glen_Quagmire wrote: » For the non-habitable option?
Glen_Quagmire wrote: » I think I'll go the "non habitable" route as it seems a lot less complicated and cheaper even if I don't get the official extra bedroom at the end of it
kceire wrote: Ask the builder to price the non habitable option. I think the prices will be the same as most of the regulations are still required.
