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N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

King Kelly

This week's local papers have the listings of CPO's for the New Ross bypass so some relief in prospect at the bridge in town.

Are their any images of the new river crossing available? I'm told it will be the highest bridge in Ireland. True? Where it's due to join the Waterford road at Glenmore is certainly a high point.

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josip

MrDerp wrote: »

Bucket? Bombs away I'd say.

Agreed, the prevailing winds would carry it to the river from that height.

peter.teahan

Great photo. Which FB Page was that?

Say my name

josip wrote: »

It's because of it both being a navigable river and the elevation on the Kilkenny side.
The land immediately adjacent to the river on the Wexford side is quite boggy so it also made sense to have that part elevated.
Someone here I think, quoted one of the engineers, that coming off such a height on the Kilkenny meant that they effectively had half the bridge built already.
We're a helpful lot on our side.

Will the Dunbrody ship be able to pass underneath with masts up if it ever decides to go for a jaunt?

josip

Say my name wrote: »

Will the Dunbrody ship be able to pass underneath with masts up if it ever decides to go for a jaunt?

Very interesting question.
Navigation clearance for the bridge is 36m. Would that be high or low tide?
http://www.tii.ie/tii-library/conferences_and_seminars/nrc/nra-nrc-2017/5.4-Joe-Shinkwin-P-OLoughlin-N25-New-Ross-Bypass-TII-National-Roads-Conference-2017-.pdf

The height of the Dunbrody mainmast above the deck is 33.5m
https://books.google.ie/books?id=QgMRudqoLGQC&pg=PA175&lpg=PA175&dq=Dunbrody+mast+height&source=bl&ots=9UAyWQEL7g&sig=aXqyLaMu9sw8T_T-B4zOXW7xSj0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiSsIX5z-PeAhUGKewKHRYbD9sQ6AEwDHoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=Dunbrody%20mast%20height&f=false

So unless the bridge clearance height is a hwm figure then it looks like the Dunbrody is stuck.

MichealD

Clearance is 36m at MHWS.

The mean high water springs (MHWS) is the highest level that spring tides reach on the average over a period of time so she should get through at low tide though I doubt she’ll ever leave her berth.

josip

This time last year Sean Connick said they hoped to get her into dry dock for maintenance.

Would that be across the river at Ross Company or would they have to go elsewhere for that?

MichealD

josip wrote: »

This time last year Sean Connick said they hoped to get her into dry dock for maintenance.

Would that be across the river at Ross Company or would they have to go elsewhere for that?

It was done earlier this year. She was moved to the New Ross shipyard dry dock for I think about six or eight weeks to be completely repainted etc.

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/newrossstandard/news/magnificent-dunbrody-returns-after-250000-refurbishment-36518136.html

m17

The barrow crossing 14/11/18

NedNew2

Recent video

Kermit.de.frog

m17 wrote: »

The barrow crossing 14/11/18

BelfastVanMan

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

m17 wrote: »

The barrow crossing 14/11/18

Now, that's what I call a Skew Bridge..

josip

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

"Escher! Get your ass out here!"

VR6

NedNew2 wrote: »

Recent video

They probably are making some progress, but it seems like we have been looking at roughly the same pics for the last six months or more. No sign of the middle section being done.

You'd imagine it would take another year or more at this rate !

m17

The barrow crossing

serfboard

VR6 wrote: »

They probably are making some progress, but it seems like we have been looking at roughly the same pics for the last six months or more. No sign of the middle section being done.

If you look closely you'll see the pillars being built from which the cables will be hanging off.

To get an idea of the timeline, a look at the Waterford bypass thread on here might help - that has a similar (if smaller) bridge.

makowski

22 months estimated work left

josip

makowski wrote: »

22 months estimated work left

Who's estimate?

hi5

Will this bridge have a separate walkway/footpath?

josip

hi5 wrote: »

Will this bridge have a separate walkway/footpath?

As far as I know, no.

m17

The barrow crossing

m17

The RFK bridge will open in autumn 2019

https://m.independent.ie/regionals/newrossstandard/news/changing-landscape-37567631.html

allthedoyles

With Applegreen refused planning permission at Ballymacar, anyone know where the nearest services outlet is going to be on this stretch ?

Digital Society

How much time will all these roads save in time from Waterford to Gorey non peak?

josip

Digital Society wrote: »

How much time will all these roads save in time from Waterford to Gorey non peak?

Not being smart, but zero saving on that route at non-peak times.

marno21

josip wrote: »

Not being smart, but zero saving on that route at non-peak times.

Hardly. There will certainly be a time saving on going from the N30 to Glenmore at a constant 100km/h instead of having to slow down in New Ross and go through the town. Same with Enniscorthy being able to avoid the town. It won't be massive but it'll certainly help and save fuel.

josip

marno21 wrote: »

Hardly. There will certainly be a time saving on going from the N30 to Glenmore at a constant 100km/h instead of having to slow down in New Ross and go through the town. Same with Enniscorthy being able to avoid the town. It won't be massive but it'll certainly help and save fuel.

Big savings if you're driving a HGV alright by not having to go the Ring Road in Ross, but for everyone else, no more than a couple of minutes.

The OP mentioned non-peak times, so I'm assuming no traffic delays.
Best of luck keeping a constant 100km/h at the roundabout at the bottom of Glenmore Hill coming from Waterford taking the 3rd exit.
And let me know how you get on going through the Ballymacar roundabout and the N30 tie in roundabout at 100.
https://www.bamireland.ie/our-work/bam-civil/roads/n25-new-ross-ppp-scheme/

If you follow the Enniscorthy bypass, it's longer than today's route.
https://www.wexfordcoco.ie/sites/default/files/content/Roads/M11%20Gorey%20to%20Enniscorthy%20PPP%20Scheme%20Route%20Map.pdf
Most people I know go Carley's Bridge and the Moyne at the moment.
The new bypass comes back on itself after the Bunclody road roundabaout.
I expect it will be heavier on fuel due to the longer distance and the higher speed on the M11 part.

TheScoringGoal

marno21 wrote: »

Hardly. There will certainly be a time saving on going from the N30 to Glenmore at a constant 100km/h instead of having to slow down in New Ross and go through the town. Same with Enniscorthy being able to avoid the town. It won't be massive but it'll certainly help and save fuel.

I'd also add that in my time driving through Ross, peak or non peak time, it's rare not to have a HGV or some other slow moving vehicle in front. Not alone will the bypass mean that these vehicles won't be trying to manoeuvre through Ross but dual carriageway will also allow passing opportunities.

m17

The barrow crossing 07/12/18

MidMan25

Really impressive!

blindsider

There's a small section of new road NE of New Ross, and it includes a new Roundabout. Unfortunately, any small gain is offset by the awful roadworks at the junction of the N30/R700.

I know they're necessary, and I hope they're completed soon!