kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
robinph wrote: » But "home" was listed as in the UK. Would need to be ordinarily resident for 5 of the previous 12 years to get that (may have the numbers wrong). It sounds like he just flies over to Trinity every now and then. Maybe if he's doing that every week though he might clock up enough days per year to count as resident in Ireland rather than the UK.
listermint wrote: » I would question how he managed to get it though ?
Akrasia wrote: » In fairness, it is all Ireland's fault for being invaded and occupied by the English for 800 years and then having a war of independence and the English saying we could only have 3/4 of the island back, and then decades later following a bloody civil war having a peace process that involved an international treaty signed by the UK and Ireland with conditions that make their current brexit a little bit awkward for them.
blanch152 wrote: » Ireland didn't exist before the British organised us. We are like India and Pakistan and other made-up countries created by British colonialism. There was no single Irish identity or single Irish political unit before the British created one.
Sam Russell wrote: » Ard Ri?
blanch152 wrote: » Sam Russell wrote: » Ard Ri? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ireland#/media/File:Www.wesleyjohnston.com-users-ireland-maps-historical-map1014.gif "By the 12th century, Ireland was divided politically into a shifting hierarchy of petty kingdoms and over-kingdoms. Power was exercised by the heads of a few regional dynasties vying against each other for supremacy over the whole island."
blanch152 wrote: » Akrasia wrote: » In fairness, it is all Ireland's fault for being invaded and occupied by the English for 800 years and then having a war of independence and the English saying we could only have 3/4 of the island back, and then decades later following a bloody civil war having a peace process that involved an international treaty signed by the UK and Ireland with conditions that make their current brexit a little bit awkward for them. Ireland didn't exist before the British organised us. We are like India and Pakistan and other made-up countries created by British colonialism. There was no single Irish identity or single Irish political unit before the British created one.
ArmaniJeanss wrote: » I'm not sure this TV debate is good for anyone still clinging to Peoples Vote/2nd Referendum. Corbyn performs poorly in this debate and May looks like a fantastic stateswoman - pressure grows on her MPs to back her and vote for the deal. Chances of deal passing improve. Corbyn performs brilliant in this debate, buries May and looks like a future PM - pressure grows on ERG to take any Brexit they can whilst they can, and other Tory MPs panic at the thought of losing their seat in any imminent GE if the deal vote is rejected. Chances of deal passing improve.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Has anyone found out what May's people mean by 'wanting a panel' for the debate?
blanch152 wrote: » https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ireland#/media/File:Www.wesleyjohnston.com-users-ireland-maps-historical-map1014.gif "By the 12th century, Ireland was divided politically into a shifting hierarchy of petty kingdoms and over-kingdoms. Power was exercised by the heads of a few regional dynasties vying against each other for supremacy over the whole island."
judeboy101 wrote: » Either one v one with 3 or more moderators. One v one followed by a panel discussion with ppl from both sides One v one with town hall style q&a similar to tm's BBC "debate" but this time with Corby on stage
RobMc59 wrote: » Oh well-there's one piece of lighter news for the British-macron was apparently incandescent with rage when he found out the UK retain control of their waters,according to Gove.
EdgeCase wrote: » I have my doubts he was incandescent with anything tbh. There's a British tabloid-like agenda to paint Macron, Varadkar, Merkel, JC Juncker and anyone else as being full of rage and fire or somehow in a panic to pander to the UK's demands. In reality, they probably responded pretty blandly.
Sam Russell wrote: » Retaining the rights to fish is OK but the UK do not eat their own fish - they export it and import the fish they eat.
An Ciarraioch wrote: » Some significant findings in a new poll - 422 GB constituencies now Remain, which is on 56% overall, Welsh Leave vote has virtually collapsed, 66% support a new referendum:http://twitter.com/RhunapIorwerth/status/1067924278438477825
blanch152 wrote: » "By the 12th century, Ireland was divided politically into a shifting hierarchy of petty kingdoms and over-kingdoms. Power was exercised by the heads of a few regional dynasties vying against each other for supremacy over the whole island."
flatty wrote: » Fcuking Welsh. Voting with their wallets as usual. Where were they when this was a vote of principle? Parading behind the brexit bus.
Spanish Eyes wrote: » If and just saying IF there is another referendum, what do you think the choices should be? 1. WA 2. Stay in EU Or what? I think it is just too problematic. If leaving without an agreement is an option, that could win. Hard Brexit. Such a fkn mess. But the only ones to blame are the British (well Brexiteers) themselves with their oversized sense of entitlement, their arrogance, their lack of planning, their FPTP system that means little engagement in politics, and last but not least, their post colonial hubris. Woops.
