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Margaret Cash steals €300 worth of clothes from Penneys and aftermath/etc!

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https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-mumofseven-margaret-cash-appears-in-court-over-stealing-300-worth-of-clothes-from-penneys-37434491.html

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Lefty Bicek

What about these entrepreneurs...

A man has pleaded guilty to blackmailing the boss of a brewery after a group of Travellers set up camp on its premises.

Thomas Ward (43) admitted demanding £20,000 (€22,455) from Thwaites Brewery chief executive officer Richard Bailey with menaces in May this year.

Ahead of a scheduled trial at Preston Crown Court on Monday, Ward, of Aspull Common, Leigh, also pleaded guilty to conspiracy to burgle Thwaites Brewery in Blackburn, Lancashire, and conspiracy to commit criminal damage...

More than £200,000 (€224,559) worth of damage is estimated to have been caused to the brewery when a group of around 100 members of the Travelling community set up camp over the bank holiday weekend.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/man-admits-blackmail-bid-over-travellers-camp-at-brewery-37543377.html

Some charming background info to this...

UK brewery Thwaites has been left with £100,000 worth of damage and been forced to pour 1,700 pints of beer down the drain after a 100-strong group of travellers invaded its premise, smashed windows and urinated in its offices.

https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2018/05/travellers-cause-100k-worth-of-damage-at-brewery/

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Spanish Eyes

tabby aspreme wrote: »

The good news, Traveller story is that some of these families are moving, there is an article in yesterday's Sun, maybe someone can put up a link, to cheer people up.

They must have been paid something. But they were supposed to go to Coolquay in North Co. Dublin instead or something. I bet the residents of that quiet backwater are absolutely thrilled they have been diverted to a private development in Swords. Wonder what the purchasers in that development think now.

The halting site Travellers could have applied for council housing at any time, but no, they waited until the optimum time. Have to give them credit for being wily all the same.

Thanks for heads up. Just googled it.....

https://www.thesun.ie/news/3445561/travellers-swanky-new-home-moved-dublin-airport-runway/

tabby aspreme

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

Yup, forgot that one.

It's getting hard to keep track.

And we haven't even got to the Christmas festivities in Rathkeale yet.

There was a pre Christmas friendly in the Long Mile Inn last week

James Brown

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Hold on, is Leo Varadkars boyfriends name Matt Barrett?

Jesus I only realised that now.

The poster who is called that here and criticizes Leo constantly here, well I feel sorry for them.

That is more creepy than pathetic.

WTF like???

So you're just going to dodge being called out on all your sh*te?

James Brown

tayto lover wrote: »

Ha ha I've never seen you criticise SF and I just wondered why?
Let me guess you're a great admirer of their economic policies.

Because SF aren't in government.
To give full disclosure I'd take a Sinn Feiner over a Me Feiner any day

You'd be as well off slagging the Greens.

When called out about making no point other than inferring someone is a shinner, call them a shinner again. A bit like supporting FF/FG over and over with the same results but still finding the time to point at parties never made one policy

xi5yvm0owc1s2b

jmayo wrote: »

Ehh you forgot beating the cr** out of an amateur soccer referee in a car park after a match.

Yup, forgot that one.

It's getting hard to keep track.

And we haven't even got to the Christmas festivities in Rathkeale yet.

jmayo

Working class heroes wrote: »

I thought this was a Margaret Cash bashing thread(justified to be fair)

Are there not enough Traveler bashing threads on here ?

What’s the crack mods?

Well at least the bashing around these parts doesn't involve slashhooks, axe handles, basebakll bats or the latest golf clubs. :rolleyes:

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I suppose End of the Road will be along to tell us all it is our responsibility to pay them welfare so their kids don’t go hungry.

The best thing I ever did was put that poster on ignore.

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

In the past few months we've had Margaret "De gubbermint is robbing me!" Cash pulling publicity stunts with her seven children before racking up her 39th criminal conviction. We've had Travellers refusing six homes built for them in Tipperary at a cost of €1.7 million to the taxpayer because they didn't come with stables and six acres of land for horses. We've seen numerous additional policing resources required in Drogheda because of a feud involving stabbings, hatchet attacks, kidnappings, and car bombs. And now we have Travellers living in €100,000 camper vans while claiming social welfare.

The spin machine must be working overtime in RTE and Pavee Point trying to deflect and cover up all of this.

It's clear that "ethnic minority status" has only made the situation much worse, because Travellers now feel that they have immunity from criticism.

Ehh you forgot beating the cr** out of an amateur soccer referee in a car park after a match.
But they are sorry now, they probably found better use for the golf club.

Anyway according to the likes of blueblackblue it is probably the fault of the referee for now engaging with them enough. :rolleyes:

tabby aspreme

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I heard a group of Travellers who are camped/halted out Dublin Airport way are seeking 6 figure sums to move on so that we, as a country, via the taxpayer can build a new runway. You know, to improve our connectivity and our economy.

You have to hand it to them. They see a weak spot in the National Governmental/NGO psyche, and milk it for all it's worth. No one will say feck off at all, take it to the courts. Oh no.

The good news, Traveller story is that some of these families are moving, there is an article in yesterday's Sun, maybe someone can put up a link, to cheer people up.

Mad_maxx

Gravelly wrote: »

Yeah, I've a Polish acquaintance who has mentioned the whole traveller thing to me many times. He struggles to understand how we let them get away with the whole schtick.

Bought a car off a pole several months ago, very interesting man, well educated professional, told me how his grandad was a card carrying communist but how he himself was a social democrat who was firmly on the left here.

He would be considered an extreme right winger by the Irish media however when it comes to travellers, he believed they should be forced to assimilate as that is what happened in Poland post WW2, Poland had a huge gypsy population but under communism, that kind of difference is viewed as subversive, I'm no commie and if travellers behaved like the amish, I'd say let them take their kids out of school, marry their own kind and live separately but that doesn't happen, traveller culture is a dependent one in complete totality.

Jerichoholic

Omackeral wrote: »

I think you're gonna enjoy the remix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8cbK67QDhc

Spanish Eyes

I heard a group of Travellers who are camped/halted out Dublin Airport way are seeking 6 figure sums to move on so that we, as a country, via the taxpayer can build a new runway. You know, to improve our connectivity and our economy.

You have to hand it to them. They see a weak spot in the National Governmental/NGO psyche, and milk it for all it's worth. No one will say feck off at all, take it to the courts. Oh no.

But sure they don't care, they just drive their jeeps and camper vans and rarely use airports going back and forth between UK and here. I have often wondered how the heck they got visas to Australia to wreak havoc over there also. I hope they are on a blacklist by now.

Gravelly

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Strike up a conversation with even a liberal pole and see what they think of how we millycoddle travellers, polish ( big bodybuilding frame) guy I know works in lidl, he takes zero sh1t from the travellers who send their kids in to lift and even less from the parents who try and deny what was staring pavel in the face.

The Eastern Europeans are a brutally Frank bunch but it's exactly what is required here

Yeah, I've a Polish acquaintance who has mentioned the whole traveller thing to me many times. He struggles to understand how we let them get away with the whole schtick.

Mad_maxx

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

An utter disgrace. Media censorship at its finest.

Fair play to the Independent for using the T-word and pointing out that these criminal gangs are claiming social welfare while living in or driving luxury vehicles worth hundreds of thousands.

The Irish people deserve to know the truth.

While a poor publication, the indo is well to the right of Ireland,s version of the guardian

Mad_maxx

Gravelly wrote: »

We are a country of soft-headed idiots.

No wonder the tinkers think we're all fools.

Strike up a conversation with even a liberal pole and see what they think of how we mollycoddle travellers, polish ( big bodybuilding frame) guy I know works in lidl, he takes zero sh1t from the travellers who send their kids in to lift and even less from the parents who try and deny what was staring pavel in the face.

The Eastern Europeans are a brutally Frank bunch but it's exactly what is required here

Gravelly

Omackeral wrote: »

I think you're gonna enjoy the remix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8cbK67QDhc

:D:D

Class!

[Deleted User]

Gravelly wrote: »

****e in a bucket never gets old. Pure poetry.

I think you're gonna enjoy the remix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8cbK67QDhc

Gravelly

Omackeral wrote: »

"Our heads are all soft and innocent. The innocence never left our heads." Ha I think I've literally heard that on a call-out video! Hang on, I'll see if I can find it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL6aDrzs3Fs

Ah it's on the classic Sh1te In A Bucket video. Firstly at 0:25 and then again at 1:38. Amazing.

****e in a bucket never gets old. Pure poetry.

[Deleted User]

Gravelly wrote: »

We are a country of soft-headed idiots.

No wonder the tinkers think we're all fools.

"Our heads are all soft and innocent. The innocence never left our heads." Ha I think I've literally heard that on a call-out video! Hang on, I'll see if I can find it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL6aDrzs3Fs

Ah it's on the classic Sh1te In A Bucket video. Firstly at 0:25 and then again at 1:38. Amazing.

KrustyUCC

Stories like that will get out eventually

Gravelly

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Christ that will be some story :mad::mad::mad:

It will be if it gets out - tight wraps being kept on it.

KrustyUCC

Gravelly wrote: »

From what I'm hearing, it will make the lads in Tipperary look like saints.

Christ that will be some story :mad::mad::mad:

KrustyUCC

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Very enlightening. You just don't hear about these stories unless you go looking for them.

"We just want stable homes"

It was a big story locally and my cousin worked in the Kingsley

The travellers were well able to play the 'racist' card when they didn't get their way

[Deleted User]

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I suppose End of the Road will be along to tell us all it is our responsibility to pay them welfare so their kids don’t go hungry.

Nope. wrong. proof. travellers are amish.

Floppybits

Gravelly wrote: »

We are a country of soft-headed idiots.

No wonder the tinkers think we're all fools.

Fools is too soft, they see us a F*****G Idiots who are there to be ripped off.

Gravelly

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Very enlightening. You just don't hear about these stories unless you go looking for them.

"We just want stable homes"

We are a country of soft-headed idiots.

No wonder the tinkers think we're all fools.

Deebles McBeebles

KrustyUCC wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/storm-damage-sees-traveller-families-housed-in-top-4-star-hotel-823416.html

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/cork-city-council-treating-us-like-dogs-say-homeless-travellers-465999.html

Very enlightening. You just don't hear about these stories unless you go looking for them.

"We just want stable homes"

Gravelly

KrustyUCC wrote: »

A million euro :eek:

That story will be fun

From what I'm hearing, it will make the lads in Tipperary look like saints.

KrustyUCC

Gravelly wrote: »

And wait until the scandal of the €1,000,000 traveller council house down in Kerry comes to light.....

A million euro :eek:

That story will be fun

Gravelly

Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: »

In the past few months we've had Margaret "De gubbermint is robbing me!" Cash pulling publicity stunts with her seven children before racking up her 39th criminal conviction. We've had Travellers refusing six homes built for them in Tipperary at a cost of €1.7 million to the taxpayer because they didn't come with stables and six acres of land for horses. We've seen numerous additional policing resources required in Drogheda because of a feud involving stabbings, hatchet attacks, kidnappings, and car bombs. And now we have Travellers living in €100,000 camper vans while claiming social welfare.

The spin machine must be working overtime in RTE and Pavee Point trying to deflect and cover up all of this.

It's clear that "ethnic minority status" has only made the situation much worse, because Travellers now feel that they have immunity from criticism.

And wait until the scandal of the €1,000,000 traveller council house down in Kerry comes to light.....

B00MSTICK

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

The reason why I made that comparison is because clondalkin is an economically disadvantaged area with similar population as the travellers as a whole.

Those are the type of areas that should be compared as many are struggling and there are a lot of similarities.
Marry young.
Leave school early etc etc.

I'd agree with this.
Anti-social/scummy behaviour can be traced back to many issues but and I'll add a few from my POV:

Lack of education (leaving school early due to early marriage or getting pregnant etc.) or little value placed on education (potentially uneducated parents?)
Lack of attention/responsibilty from parents or outright neglect (large families may be part of this?)
Lack of good/positive role models
Living environment/peer pressure/ridicule (getting in with the wrong crowd)
Many more..

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The problem I have is that Traveller culture actually exacerbates many of these issues to a massive degree.
Is that something we can agree with?
I could list aspects of Traveller culture against all the points above but I assume most can join the dots.

And there are definitely similarities between the above and disadvantaged areas 100%