A senior member of the Hutch family issued the statement to the Sunday Times in which the family described how they paid 200,000 to the Kinahans in a bid to spare Gary’s life and that they are being chased for €200,000 more. “Gary had a falling out with the Kinahan organisation,” the statement reads. “This matter was resolved and €200,000 in cash was paid over to the Kinahans. “We shook hands and agreed to walk way. Gary was then murdered for no reason. You cannot trust these people.” The statement then details a meeting in Europe two weeks ago between both sides when a demand was made on the Hutch family for another €200,000. “The Kinahan organisation has attempted to kill Gerry on several occasions in recent months. We are being terrorised by the cartel, “the statement adds. “Kinahan’s representatives said members of our family would be killed or forced to leave their homes and Ireland if their demands for money were not met. ”We believe the Kinahan drugs cartel murdered Eddie at his home in Dublin last Monday having approached him days before with demands for money. “Our extended family are under threat from these people.” The statement insists the family did not want to become embroiled in violence. “Our family is not involved in a drugs war,” it adds. “We are well known in the north inner city and have no involvement in drugs.”
Og81 wrote: » No.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » I have a feeling that the longer-term background to the whole thing isn't known to most average punters commenting on it, tbh - if I can find the original article I'll post it, but most of the anecdotal public opinion I've alluded to stemmed from one specific article, I think perhaps in the Indo, which painted Kinahan as a backstabbing traitor and the Hutch family as being set upon even after successfully pleading (and paying) for Gary's life. Media reporting in the aftermath of something like the Regency has an immense power to shape long term public opinion of the fallout. Without that article, people would probably feel very differently. Immediately after the shooting, most people were like "absolute scumbags attacking a weigh in like that", and suddenly after that article went viral, it switched to "absolute scumbags going back on an agreement like that, they deserved what they got".
PLOPS wrote: » I 100% agree with you, and it was me who had said the Hutches seemed to have more public sympathy. The more i think about it, Gary Hutch was a suspect in a few murders, 'Sympathy' is stretching it, i think the public don't really care once its just criminals involved.
PLOPS wrote: » In my opinion nobody deserves to be shot, regardless of what they have done. Especially from another criminal with a gun, whatever about a Court sentencing someone to death at least there was a trial. I think throwing these lads in prison for a very long period is worse than a death sentence too. I don't have sympathy for any of the criminals shot though, they knew the life the signed up for. Anthony Campbell, now there was a poor young lad in work and shot dead, I cannot fathom how his killers did what they did. His mother and Father were robbed of a son for no other reason that he would be a witness. I have thought about him every now and then and think how unlucky he was, and I have no relation to him. I wish his family had the justice they deserved.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » I was merely responding to a poster who suggested that the Hutches have more sympathy because more people on their side have been killed in this feud. From talking to people about it and just general chatter, most people I know who've taken that stance aren't sympathetic to the Hutches because of the death toll being slanted towards their side, but because they believe the reports suggesting that Daniel Kinahan had Gary Hutch murdered after his people shook hands with The Monk and promised not to do so. Again, it's not my own opinion because I'm very wary of journalists with anonymous claims, I'm merely pointing out that in my view, the public sympathy towards the Hutches isn't down to them having lost more people to this feud, but rather down to the widespread belief that the Kinahans "started" it unprovoked, while the Regency was a response to an unjustified provocation. I'm not saying I agree, merely stating that this seems to be the most popular public belief about the feud - neither side are "the good guys", but the Kinahans acted brutally and without provocation while the Regency was the reaction of a grieving family to an unjustified act against one of their own.
PLOPS wrote: » Yeah, but come on! Drug dealers in betrayal shocker. You make out that after a deal is struck it can't be gone back on? These are drug dealers and murderers, their moral compasses aren't pointing in the right direction. Its irrelevant who the public have sympathy for, in fact i don't even think that exists for the Hutch's. Maybe the innocent Taxi Driver, people would feel sorry for him, but the rest? there comes a point in life when you have to accept the road you have gone down, 'lie with dogs, don't be shocked when you get fleas'.
PLOPS wrote: » With what exactly? Would be nice to see how you can justify yourself. Actually, when i said David Byrne deserves to be where he is right now, I was wrong. Nobody deserves to be shot dead, but he deserved to be incarcerated until he wasn't a danger to society.
spider baby 172 wrote: » sorry to bring it back. great post. I personally don't believe David Byrne deserved to be killed, I believe he was involved with drugs and associated with some serious criminals, but he didn't deserve what happened, he wasn't the target. With this being said the Kinahans / Byrnes seem to believe his life is worth countless others, because he was killed it gives them a license to kill whoever they want, which is crazy. The Hutches gain sympathy because even the innocent ones aint safe. not all Hutches are criminals, and even if they are criminals it doesn't mean they deserve to be killed just because Daniel Kinahan or Liam Byrne or Jaws Byrne have an insatiable thirst for blood. They have ruined the North Inner City, made people afraid to poke their heads outside their front door, which will always make them the villans in my opinion, and more than anything else, they really don't care
Og81 wrote: » See this mediation meeting that took place. Please tell me where it happened when?
Og81 wrote: » The innocent taxi driver? Eddie who provided his own car for the regency shooters to leave st Vincent’s GAA club in? Or innocent Clive who was found to have €1 million euro cash and 342k in a bank lodgement. His Hats and scarves must be moncler
PLOPS wrote: » The way i see it is, between these two factions warring against each other has led to the deaths of innocent people. They both seem to think they are moral compasses and accuse the other side as being "Rats" as if thats the worst thing anyone can be, failing to see that having people murdered is worse. While the Hutch side seems to have the more sympathy with the public because they are taking more casualties, both sides are scum and they fail to see that. The Kinihan side seems to be very upset about the killing of David Byrne, nearly making him out to be a bastion of our society who was brutally slain for no reason. In one Twitter post discussing the picture being used of Gary Hutch laying dead someone justified all the killing with a photo of David Byrne and the title "That's why" under it. I just wish we had a court system to lock all these up for a considerable amount of time. there is still a major problem with cocaine use in our society and the money is feeding these parasites. Its become acceptable to do coke now and its worse now than it ever has been.
PLOPS wrote: » Was he involved with criminality?
Og81 wrote: So grand his family are criminal. Not dots I’m happy with that.
Og81 wrote: » So grand his family are criminal. Not dots I’m happy with that.
6541 wrote: » Yes - that is what my post said - he got shot, the rest of his family are criminals - that is a proven fact in an Irish court. Sorry lad.
Og81 wrote: » Action was never started against Dots. Action was started 7 months after his death.
Og81 wrote: » But how does anyone know he sells drugs? There is no proof.
6541 wrote: » And there will be no proof as he got shot before the law could prove it. The Byrne family are criminals - This is proven in courts of law and is a matter of public record. CAB brought successful prosecution against them.
PLOPS wrote: » for being a drug dealer
Og81 wrote: » I’m not pretending anything. You said he should be in prison I asked for what that’s all?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » The whole having enough evidence to actually convict them part. Arresting them otherwise is pointless.and then the whole finding the pair of them. No extradition treat with Dubai so best of luck catching Daniel on his occasional trips home assuming he still makes them.
realdanbreen wrote: » Really? what part do you reckon is crazy?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » well it is definitely crazy i'll give you that.
PLOPS wrote: » So you think I was aware of the eccentricities of the allegations made against the Taxi driver and pretended he was innocent? Also, are we really going to pretend Byrne wasn't a drug dealer or at least involved at some level in drugs? Are you going to pretend he was a normal member of society and contributing to daily life as a citizen, and the Garda tergeted him for no reason?
White lighting wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/news/three-men-in-court-after-shooting-incident-in-dublin-1.927373?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fthree-men-in-court-after-shooting-incident-in-dublin-1.927373
