Mad_maxx wrote: » Colette browne is the most boring journalist in Ireland, she embodies everything that is wrong with the industry today
Matt Barrett wrote: » You're talking out your ar*se chief. I don't represent nor often vote for SF. And if I did what of it? My comment stands. You've workers who need state aid getting blamed by other workers slightly better off who think they should have it easier and they just might if it wasn't for all the working people and their 'can't afford to live culture'. On to your point about dem that want and won't or what ever. Re read my comment. If you don't like the policies blame the policy makers not the recipients. Do you think anyone on welfare is willing or in a position to give back some of their entitlements because some blue shirt aficionado is feeling squeezed? Maybe the poor Tory voter who feels squeezed should go back to school or get a better job and earn a bigger crust? Same dumb logical leap. Or better still stop voting the same wasters in again and again while expecting things to be different?
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » The absolute state of this.https://twitter.com/colettebrowne/status/1053016788735315968?s=20
Raheem Euro wrote: » The point of ID is to stop the aforementioned fraud. The first argument against vouchers is always that they will sold on black market. What if you turned up for weekly shop and they told you it had been given out already. Someone else gave your name. Sorry. Your goods are linked to you and your id to protect them and ensure only you get them. No different to producing id at post office or intreo centre.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » EXACTLY!!! Anyone dumping is a dumbass. But the way things were being portrayed in this thread that it would be incredulous that ANY non-travellers would add to an illegal dumping site. The tone was that comment was laughable and it was reposted a number of times. That is the main tenant of my point. What does this say about the posters?Posters who have the benefit of a good state education etc etc, yet spin facts to nothing more then a stereotype. Such willful blindness and stereotyping is the lowest of the low. Especially when it comes from people who should know better. In my view they are just as bad as the Margaret Cash's of this world, in that they are completely blinkered by a myopic viewpoint. My idea about more integration with travellers and non-travellers was shot down. As it was glibly said they would only rob the people's houses while they were away.... I could give more examples of peoples stereotyping and myopic thinking on this thread, but there is too much to mention.
givyjoe wrote: » Eh, no. People didn't believe that settled folks were dumping ON a HALTING SITE. That's something completely different to adding to an illegal dumping site. Come on.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » EXACTLY!!! Anyone dumping is a dumbass. But the way things were being portrayed in this thread that it would be incredulous that ANY non-travellers would add to an illegal dumping site. The tone was that comment was laughable and it was reposted a number of times. That is the main tenant of my point. What does this say about the posters? Posters have the benefit of a good state education etc etc, yet spin facts to nothing more then a stereotype. Such willful blindness and stereotyping is the lowest of the low. Especially when it comes from people who should know better. In my view they are just as bad as the Margaret Cash's of this world, in that they are completely blinkered by a myopic viewpoint.
BBFAN wrote: » Tbf anyone who thinks that settled people haven't been dumping rubbish ever since the bin charges came in are naïve in the extreme.
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » "The Traveller Visibility Group accepted that while some of the rubbish comes from the halting site, it said rubbish is coming from outside sources too." Copy and paste job. From the article. Anyone dumping crap there is a dumbass. I'm not trying to make excuses for my fellow settled comrades dumping sh1t there. IF they are dumping sh1t there.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » You are reading what you want into the article read it again. The last few lines... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ruraldweller56 you seem to be willfully blind that non-travellers can take advantage of the situation and make it far worse. Whether it is condemned or not that is another issue.
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » That article says travellers are dumping on the site. If there are 'country folk' dumping there on top of it all normal minded people will condemn it.
tayto lover wrote: » So is this now the official SF line? Blame the "squeezed middle" for the won't work/never worked criminal element and for who these heavily taxed workers voted in? Tell us, what would SF do differently that would make these people go out and earn a crust?
Rex Tasteless Gutter wrote: » While Margaret Cash herself is far from blameless, I do see her as a product both of Traveller culture (which is responsible for her being taken out of school at 12, married at 15, and pregnant by 16) and the misguided welfare policies of the Irish state, which steadily increased her monthly income and eligibility for social housing as she had more and more children. She is now caught in a poverty trap -- but there's no doubt that her entire life would have been different if she had continued on in school, got a job, and delayed marriage and children until she was more financially secure.
gormdubhgorm wrote: » https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/watch-cork-city-faces-250k-bill-to-clean-up-illegal-dump-yet-again-855747.html
PlaneSpeeking wrote: » It was getting towards "settled people travel to halting sites to dispose of rubbish" levels!!!!!
Matt Barrett wrote: » If we're specifically talking about people on welfare, playing by welfare rules....I think it's policy makers we should be looking at. Unless she's committing fraud what do we expect her to do? 'No thanks love, keep your money, I couldn't possibly, sure I'm full a the drink'? If we're talking about people on welfare getting something for noting, that's just sh*te talk from 'the squeezed middle' misdirecting their ire. Which makes sense because the f***ing idiots keep voting in FF/FG and then whinging at the results.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » we're not talking about working people. we are talking about people like Margaret Cash who dont work, never have worked and most likely are not actually qualified to do any work bar the most menial task.
Jasiah Hot Talker wrote: » It’s no secret, the dogs on the street know, a huge amount of heroin in the midlands is trafficked through travellers.
end of the road wrote: » his point was in terms of been given the relevant supports and push to stay in education, by showing them via the method of education that education is valuable.
freshpopcorn wrote: » I think it was Super-Valu(which is basically the same) but I was inder the impression you could spend the money on anything. I don't think it was overly successful because I haven't heard much about it.
Lefty Bicek wrote: » Maybe she was asking Miriam to contact her local brother TD, for her. That's how all problems can be easlily resolved in this great little country, dontchaknow ?
Ruraldweller56 wrote: » Miriam O'Callaghan. Another enemy of the ordinary working person. Remember these people.http://www.thejournal.ie/margaret-cash-accommodation-4184113-Aug2018/?amp=1
