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American killed by tribe in India

Frank Bullitt

Sounds like a nasty enough way to go.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-46286215

Local media have reported that Chau may have wanted to meet the tribe to preach Christianity to them.

I hope this isn't true, would be pretty tragic if that was why he was going to the island.

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Wibbs

Here's a friendly encounter back in the 90's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExdEHU02Zk0

Since then no official contact has been allowed. What is known of their culture is minimal. They're likely similar to others in the region. One odd thing they do when approached by boats is as well as hurling spears and arrows the men and women shag each other vigorously on the beach in full view. Showing off in fact. What that's about who knows.

Deleted User wrote: »

How do we know they never domesticated dogs? I'm always extremely sceptical when it come to the *ahem* soft sciences.

It's not social sciences we're talking here. Archaeological evidence and the various tribes own words. The domestication of the wolf/dog appears to have happened a couple of times in a couple of places, but the earliest definitive example of a "dog" is about 15,000 years ago. There are tantalising glimpses that may show earlier domestication events at 20,000 plus years ago, but they're rare. Genetic evidence in modern dogs and wolves gives a figure around the 10,000 mark.

The upshot of all that being that the Andaman islanders had long left Africa and the Asian mainland before the dog came along. That added to the archaeological evidence strongly suggests they didn't have dogs until outsiders showed up. And even then when they did, the islanders showed no interest in keeping dogs themselves.

Their cultures have degraded over the millennia. They once had pottery, but for some reason knocked that on the head about a thousand years ago. That tech may well have been brought in from outside.

AtomicHorror

VanGogh18 wrote: »

Why should those islanders be left in peace when we are not being left alone in peace on our island
fukin hypocrisy of the left

On the principle that it is good to treat people the way you would want to be treated, and that it's bad to treat people the same way mean people treat us? Is that a leftist thing?

archer22

He told them "Jesus saves" but when Jesus didn't try to save him they concluded he was telling lies.

Feisar

cdeb wrote: »

Why would you have no business going to Tajikistan?

Fairly ignorant comment tbh.

??? What? Yer taking the pistachios. ISIS roaming about, that's why.

LirW

cdeb wrote: »

Uncontacted.

Unless you're saying they're going around tapping debit cards at people.

My bad, mush brain right here.

rainbowtrout

smelly sock wrote: »

Its shocking though. If some idiot knocks on my door looking to sell some ****e im not permitted to kill them because i dont want contact with them.

Police should possibly get involved.

No, it really isn't. Someone knocking on your door selling crap isn't going to kill you because you are largely immune to the same things as they are. This tribe do not have immunity to illnesses we largely see as trivial.

Also, it is illegal in India to contact them, so it makes it wildly different from a randomer knocking on your door. This guy knew that, and still went there like an idiot. This is all of his own doing. The tribe don't want contact from the rest of the world and they are protecting themselves.

[Deleted User]

Wibbs wrote: »

Different tribe. They're an odd bunch of cultures as far as anything novel in their environment goes. An extreme case of "not invented here" going on. For most of the history of the colonisation of the islands by outsiders, most of the tribes stayed away and isolated. Every so often for no apparent reason one of these tribes would emerge from the bush and engage with the foreigners. Sometimes for years, but then they often for no apparent reason, just melt back into the bush en masse overnight. Interestingly, though they never domesticated the dog, they have no fear of them. Doesn't sound so interesting, but then we're used to dogs. If you'd never seen one you'd see it as an obvious predator and likely stay the hell away.

How do we know they never domesticated dogs? I'm always extremely sceptical when it come to the *ahem* soft sciences.

cdeb

Feisar wrote: »

To me they are very similar.

Idiots going somewhere they had no business going to.

Why would you have no business going to Tajikistan?

Fairly ignorant comment tbh.

cdeb

LirW wrote: »

one of the few contactless tribes that are still around.

Uncontacted.

Unless you're saying they're going around tapping debit cards at people.

Wibbs

Veronica Cold Frame wrote: »

How did the photographer not die :eek:

Different tribe. They're an odd bunch of cultures as far as anything novel in their environment goes. An extreme case of "not invented here" going on. For most of the history of the colonisation of the islands by outsiders, most of the tribes stayed away and isolated. Every so often for no apparent reason one of these tribes would emerge from the bush and engage with the foreigners. Sometimes for years, but then they often for no apparent reason, just melt back into the bush en masse overnight. Interestingly, though they never domesticated the dog, they have no fear of them. Doesn't sound so interesting, but then we're used to dogs. If you'd never seen one you'd see it as an obvious predator and likely stay the hell away.

Feisar

cdeb wrote: »

Yes, I can see how it reminded you of that given there's no similarities whatsoever.

To me they are very similar.

Idiots going somewhere they had no business going to.

troyzer

They've killed someone before and I remember reading that the government decided that basically no laws apply there and they couldn't be prosecuted.

TheValeyard

Veronica Cold Frame wrote: »

How did the photographer not die :eek:

Zoooooooooooom lense.

cdeb

Feisar wrote: »

Reminds me of the two idiots that went cycling in Tajikistan that were killed by ISIS.

Yes, I can see how it reminded you of that given there's no similarities whatsoever.

Feisar

Veronica Cold Frame wrote: »

How did the photographer not die :eek:

I'd say it was one of those jobs Attenborough would be using, about a mile away.

Ipso

If only god had more than one son, then there would be no need for missionaries.

smelly sock

Gintonious wrote: »

Its shocking though. If some idiot knocks on my door looking to sell some ****e im not permitted to kill them because i dont want contact with them.

Police should possibly get involved.

Wibbs

smelly sock wrote: »

The island should be bombed. Wiped out. Evil people.

Wut nonsense is this? They have made it abundantly clear for many decades they want to be left alone. The government of the region respects that wish and makes it illegal to contact them. Once or twice they have been friendly to passing fishermen so long as they didn't step onto their land. Moron goes to convert them into a culture nor religion they want to have anything to do with, a moron that could kill them with a sneeze and they kill him. Sounds like a pretty good basis for self defence to me.

Noveight

If only he had a gun...

gctest50

I hope they didn't catch anything off the cnut when they were killling him

It could wipe out the whole lot of them

q85dw7osi4lebg

Wibbs wrote: »

Fundamentalist Christian wins Darwin Award. What a deluded fool.

Those particular Andaman islanders have been isolated for centuries. Throughout that region other groups have contacted and then avoided outsiders for a very very long time. They represent a very early group of Africans that migrated from there into the rest of the world. They even still look like African folks.

How did the photographer not die :eek:

LirW

Afaik there's a no-go radius around this island, a few kilometres.
It's a fascinating tribe when you read up about the very few encounters they had with the outside world - they're not particularly welcoming and one of the few contactless tribes that are still around.

So yeah, hard to feel sorry for that guy.

duploelabs

Gintonious wrote: »

Sounds like a nasty enough way to go.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-46286215

I hope this isn't true, would be pretty tragic if that was why he was going to the island.

Many many people have been killed trying to contact the tribe.

He was warned personally not to approach the island.

Ironic that he went to preach Christianity, yet was killed by Darwinism

Frank Bullitt

smelly sock wrote: »

The island should be bombed. Wiped out. Evil people.

Wibbs

Fundamentalist Christian wins Darwin Award. What a deluded fool.

Those particular Andaman islanders have been isolated for centuries. Throughout that region other groups have contacted and then avoided outsiders for a very very long time. They represent a very early group of Africans that migrated from there into the rest of the world. They even still look like African folks.

Frank Bullitt

"He tried to reach the Sentinel island on November 14 but could not make it. Two days later he went well prepared. He left the dingy midway and took a canoe all by himself to the island," a source told news agency AFP. "He was attacked by arrows but he continued walking.

As tragic as his death is, its also sound more and more bizarre.

They are searching for his body but no sign, they can't land on the island because of the tribe being so hostile.

Feisar

Reminds me of the two idiots that went cycling in Tajikistan that were killed by ISIS.

smelly sock

Gintonious wrote: »

Sounds like a nasty enough way to go.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-46286215

I hope this isn't true, would be pretty tragic if that was why he was going to the island.

The island should be bombed. Wiped out. Evil people.

Ipso

He'll get his reward in heaven.

Ten of Swords

Aside from the obvious dangers of hostility there is a real danger of an 'outsider' accidentally transmitting something viral that they would have no immunity to. If there are so few of them they must have a pretty fragile ecosystem on the island.