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2017 Nvidia Shield

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Not much of a discount at £20 (Was £189.99, now £169.99) but it's the first time I've seen the new model reduced.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/NVIDIA-SHIELD-Media-Streaming-Device/dp/B01NBJ6KZY/

I'm on the lookout for a 3rd one but think I'll hang on and see what happens on Amazon Prime Day this week.

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califano

Yeah I'm going to get one of these. Wondering is it likely to be reduced on cyber Monday?. If not I might buy now.
Too many concessions and allowances you have to make with Android boxes like you can't get Netflix from playstore, YouTube won't show live streaming podcasts. I feel those 2 are modified when you buy a box with them pre installed. But most importantly android boxes are stuck with the Android firmware version it's bought at whereas it's updated with Nvidia shield when there are updates which is the main thing.

ARNOLD J RIMMER

If someone has a Nvidia Shield and has Virgin Media Anywhere. Can they check if it works on the device?

Tinder Surprise

mccartj5 wrote: »

What would the shelf life of the shield be? I have a minix box but it is running Android 4.4 and there won't be any upgrades so a lot of new apps won't install. Trying to justify the investment in a shield as I could get another android box running android 8 for cheaper. Was also thinking of investing in an TV with android TV and eliminate the need for a box, but the range seems limited and pricey.

Nvidia Shield TV runs original Android - not a fork of Android that gets left behind.

when Android updates the the Nvidia Shield updates..simple!

I dont think people realise that Nvidia is a massive company and in the top 15 tech companies in the world..their products are fantastic and they just do it right!

The high horse brigade

mccartj5 wrote: »

What would the shelf life of the shield be? I have a minix box but it is running Android 4.4 and there won't be any upgrades so a lot of new apps won't install. Trying to justify the investment in a shield as I could get another android box running android 8 for cheaper. Was also thinking of investing in an TV with android TV and eliminate the need for a box, but the range seems limited and pricey.

As it's a gaming console it's very important to Nvidia that everyone is on the same software version. It's been around since 2015 and is still getting continuous updates. The old 2015 version runs the exact same software as the new 2017 one. That's not likely to change either and there's nothing on the horizon to knock the shield off the top spot.

Don't buy a TV with Android TV, you are at the mercy of the TV manufacturer for app updates. Besides they have weak processors and limited ram to bundle it in with a TV

mccartj5

What would the shelf life of the shield be? I have a minix box but it is running Android 4.4 and there won't be any upgrades so a lot of new apps won't install. Trying to justify the investment in a shield as I could get another android box running android 8 for cheaper. Was also thinking of investing in an TV with android TV and eliminate the need for a box, but the range seems limited and pricey.

OmegaGene

The high horse brigade wrote: »

That has nothing to do with any of what I said. Like I said before when you don't run your own server you are a passenger.

The reason they want to use Plex is the device limit on Emby. Once you go over 15 devices it gets expensive and there's no way around it. (This is on top of paying for Emby premiere) https://emby.media/premiere-ext.html
With Emby the server gets licensed, with Plex is the user account
They'll blame Emby but it'll be the same service. Anyone with their own TV tuners in a server is claiming Emby is well ahead of Plex on the live TV side of things, I've been chatting to lots of them on Discord

Sorry high horse I wasn’t replying to you in my last post I was just mentioning why I was thinking of getting Plex Pass
I totally understood what you said

The high horse brigade

OmegaGene wrote: »

The service I use has are on emby but with all the glitches they are going to run a better one on Plex apparently but a Plex Pass is needed

That has nothing to do with any of what I said. Like I said before when you don't run your own server you are a passenger.

The reason they want to use Plex is the device limit on Emby. Once you go over 15 devices it gets expensive and there's no way around it. (This is on top of paying for Emby premiere) https://emby.media/premiere-ext.html
With Emby the server gets licensed, with Plex is the user account
They'll blame Emby but it'll be the same service. Anyone with their own TV tuners in a server is claiming Emby is well ahead of Plex on the live TV side of things, I've been chatting to lots of them on Discord

OmegaGene

The service I use has are on emby but with all the glitches they are going to run a better one on Plex apparently but a Plex Pass is needed

moonboy52

OmegaGene wrote: »

Has Plex gone to the dogs then ?

In my opinion, no.

Plex Server on the shield works great. Plex client can be a bit glitchy, but there are plugins for Kodi & MrMC as alternatives.

Their focus has branched out to Live TV and podcasts and the like, so the media streaming part may have suffered a bit, as a result

Bought a lifetime pass for 75 a few years back and no regrets.

I have never tried Emby so the grass may be greener over there though :pac:

EDIT: The high horse brigade makes some great points that are correct now that i think on them. They are definitely aiming to be a jack of all trades and may as a result be a master of none.

The high horse brigade

OmegaGene wrote: »

Has Plex gone to the dogs then ? Used to be very good
I might stay where I am with emby then

You're not running your own server so makes little difference to you. You just go with whoever offers you the best service on whatever system they use.

It's those like me who run their own server who are up in arms about all the bugs not being fixed when they're busy adding stupid features nobody wants like news, podcasts and VR. Why would I want podcasts alongside my live TV, movies and shows? I have an app for that on my phone. They completely dropped support for plugins in the last few weeks, I have lots of these I depend on.
But it's mostly the lack of communication from the Plex team, they never help or even respond on their forums. People are leaving in their droves, the Emby forum is full of Plex converts who can't believe the Emby developers themselves are replying to their questions.

OmegaGene

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Plex pass
https://www.plex.tv/plex-pass/

I'm a former Plex pass subscriber but now have moved completely to Emby as Plex has gone to sh1t

Emby premiere
https://emby.media/premiere.html

Emby has limit of 15 devices using premiere features over a certain period of time. Web browsers, Xboxes and Kodi are free so don't count
https://github.com/MediaBrowser/Wiki/wiki/Emby-Premiere-Feature-Matrix

Has Plex gone to the dogs then ? Used to be very good
I might stay where I am with emby then

EoinMcLovin

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2018/11/nvidia-shield-tv-black-friday/

From Monday the 19th to Monday the 26th of November , you'll be able to get the Shield TV, remote and the games controller for just £149, instead of its usual price of £189.99.

If you don't need the controller, the remote-only bundle will be £134 instead of the usual £179.

The deal will be available at lots of retailers, including Amazon, Dixons, PC World, John Lewis, Scan, Shop Direct and the Shield Store, where you'll get free shipping to sweeten the deal.

The high horse brigade

Tinder Surprise wrote: »

What do you get with a Lifetime pass vs free sub

Plex pass
https://www.plex.tv/plex-pass/

I'm a former Plex pass subscriber but now have moved completely to Emby as Plex has gone to sh1t

Emby premiere
https://emby.media/premiere.html

Emby has limit of 15 devices using premiere features over a certain period of time. Web browsers, Xboxes and Kodi are free so don't count
https://github.com/MediaBrowser/Wiki/wiki/Emby-Premiere-Feature-Matrix

OmegaGene

Tinder Surprise wrote: »

What do you get with a Lifetime pass vs free sub

For me it would enable me to have access to a library of 500tb of media that I can share with 5 others via a company online
I used to be able to subscribe and use the free Plex but they clamped down on it and that is how I ended up on emby

Live tv is on Plex too I believe if you have the pass

Tinder Surprise

OmegaGene wrote: »

€89 for a lifetime pass is tempting, the provider I use on emby is setting up a better service on Plex
Wonder will cyber Monday see half price though

What do you get with a Lifetime pass vs free sub

OmegaGene

€89 for a lifetime pass is tempting, the provider I use on emby is setting up a better service on Plex
Wonder will cyber Monday see half price though

rustledjimmies

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Plex Lifetime pass 25% off code here if anyone wants it

Why do I only ever see free stuff offered first when I don't need it!? :pac::pac:

EDIT: Seems it's 25% off for all new subscribers for 48 hours: https://www.plex.tv/plex-pass/purchase/?plan=lifetime&code=FLASH25OFF&utm_source=Plex&utm_medium=email&utm_content=redeem_code_button&utm_campaign=Plex+Pass+Flash+Sale+November+15+2018

Found via: https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/9xboqx/plex_pass_lifetime_25_off_for_new_subscribers_for/

gerrybbadd

Plex Lifetime pass 25% off code here if anyone wants it

The high horse brigade

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Cheers for the replies. Asked as I’ll be over in NY before Christmas and thinking about getting one but may wait till I head over there if they are considerably cheaper.

There's barely anything in the difference, not worth it for the hassle it brings if something goes wrong. It'll be on discount for black Friday

Cypher_sounds

OmegaGene wrote: »

Not really much in it by the time you pay customs and address pal
There was a free dot included the other day
Should come down to £150 roughly for Black Friday and getflix (smart dns for uk players and us netflix) also have a cyber Monday sale so worth checking

Cheers for the replies. Asked as I’ll be over in NY before Christmas and thinking about getting one but may wait till I head over there if they are considerably cheaper.

OmegaGene

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

https://www.ubuy.ie/en/catalog/product/view/id/6900093?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_cCXk4TW3gIVB-d3Ch2VXQBHEAQYAiABEgIwQPD_BwE

This looks to good to be true?

shipped from the US

The high horse brigade

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

https://www.ubuy.ie/en/catalog/product/view/id/6900093?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_cCXk4TW3gIVB-d3Ch2VXQBHEAQYAiABEgIwQPD_BwE

This looks to good to be true?

Never heard of them. Buy from Amazon at least you'll have a returns policy and support

Mrcaramelchoc

https://www.ubuy.ie/en/catalog/product/view/id/6900093?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_cCXk4TW3gIVB-d3Ch2VXQBHEAQYAiABEgIwQPD_BwE

This looks to good to be true?

OmegaGene

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Are they cheaper in the states?

Not really much in it by the time you pay customs and address pal
There was a free dot included the other day
Should come down to £150 roughly for Black Friday and getflix (smart dns for uk players and us netflix) also have a cyber Monday sale so worth checking

tazzzZ

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Are they cheaper in the states?

No idea. I got it when it wasn't available anywhere else. I'd imagine it's marginal these days. Probably not worth the hassle of the extra long shipping and hold up in customs etc.

Cypher_sounds

tazzzZ wrote: »

Got one in the states when the original was first released. Nvidia sent out a replacement when I contacted them. Took about 3 days. Was no hassle getting uk/ie plug rather than the us one mine came with also. So this won't be an issue

Are they cheaper in the states?

tazzzZ

OmegaGene wrote: »

had two in my house and i havent heard a noise or changed the plugs so far

Got one in the states when the original was first released. Nvidia sent out a replacement when I contacted them. Took about 3 days. Was no hassle getting uk/ie plug rather than the us one mine came with also. So this won't be an issue

OmegaGene

bidiots wrote: »

If the plug needs replacing, will support with Amazon.com not be a bit problematic compared to .co.uk?

had two in my house and i havent heard a noise or changed the plugs so far

bidiots

If the plug needs replacing, will support with Amazon.com not be a bit problematic compared to .co.uk?

OmegaGene

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

Ok but your tax bill could be 65 quid or so not inc address pal fees. Don't see how it's a daft question tbh.

It’s a daft question because addresspal will not accept the item without a label showing the price so they can calculate the extras for me to pay.
Ah ninja edit
The person I bought it for doesn’t want to wait for Black Friday deals
I’ve already said in a previous post it’s likely to be around the £150 mark for Black Friday same as when I bought mine last year
the bundle with the dot included and customs and addresspal charge is roughly €205 and i can sell the dot for the person bringing the price down to a sensible price imo