kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
Tinder Surprise wrote: » Very Dangerous and inflammatory
listermint wrote: » I only see a push on her leadership and a bigger push for second referendum
LuckyLloyd wrote: » She loses 10 DUP votes for this deal but gets 12 Lib Dem and 1 Green Party in all likelihood as that group - while they'd prefer a referendum - will take this rather than the chaos of No Deal imo. Means the question becomes whether Tory rebels can be offset by enough Labour / SNP votes to get her over the line. To vote no consigns the nation to economic chaos. It has an excellent chance of getting through imo.
am i bovvered wrote: » Very informative thread !! When does the UK parliament vote ? (I did a quick google but could not see a definite timeline) Thanks
EdgeCase wrote: » This whole sorry fiasco is what happens when you build lies upon lies and upon spin and bluster. Perhaps the new UK motto should be : "Oh! What A Tangled Web We Weave When First We Practice To Deceive" They could put it on the blue passports.
charlie14 wrote: » I don`t know about the Green, but the Lib Dems didn`t sound to keen earlier today. Scotland Conservatives may be dodgy as well.
A Dub in Glasgo wrote: » I have been really impressed with the Irish Government in this mess, especially Simon Coveney who came across really well. For me to say that about a Fine Gael government is unreal
lawred2 wrote: » What does Large annexe on level playing field mean then?
Water John wrote: » Too many buying into, this Deal or No Deal at this early point.
joe40 wrote: » Maybe not likely but does anyone seea potential violent backlash in the north from loyalist paramilitaries. Just as well this isn't happening during marching season.
Water John wrote: » Too many buying into, this Deal or No Deal at this early point. The vast majority in Parliament know that staying in the EU is far better than this Deal. When HoC votes this Deal down, power moves from Cabinet to Parliament.
LuckyLloyd wrote: » I know, they are remainers and they understand that this is worse than the status quo. It is however far better than No Deal. When the moment comes...
anotherfinemess wrote: » We've all been played. The UK was always aiming for EU trade benefits minus the EU scrutiny of its money laundering industry. The promise of extra EU scrutiny appeared about 10 years ago, with the EU preparing new legislation in the wake of the financial crisis and after this talk of a brexit vote emerged. The DUP was comandeered to prevent a clean break brexit with the obvious solution of a border in the Irish sea and keep the whole of the UK trading profitably. My guess is the HoC will pass the deal after the usual histrionics to entertain our collective delusion that democracy is real. That's my home made conspiracy theory....any takers?
charlie14 wrote: » If they all look on it as either supporting this agreement or a crash out perhaps, but there may be other options they consider that can still come into play. A re-run of the referendum with this Peoples Vote or even a GE. Supporting it would also mean that under the backstop they know they are in the CU for all intent and purposes forever and a day. A limbo with no SM access, 10 billion a year + payment with no seat at the table and no trade deals that can be any better than they would get as full EU members.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Varadkar should play this very low key until commons state of play is known
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