_Kaiser_ wrote: » It might work between friends or colleagues, but most people aren't going to share their car with a random stranger.
Sam Russell wrote: » The way car shares work is the Bil and Joe drive to the car park, and first day Bill drives Joe to work in his car. Next day Joe drives thenm both in his car. So both save 50% of their osts from the car park to work. They also save on wear and tear of both car and nerves. It is a win - win for both Bill and Joe.
Patww79 wrote: » Then Joe messes about some day and doesn't show up or Bill ends up late delaying them both.
WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: » benny79 wrote: » This will never happen but I say it anyway.. To solve all the traffic congestion we need a proper underground, the likes of the Tube in London. That services all of Dublin and out to commuter towns (coming above ground if needs be) This should of being done instead of the Luas imo.. As traffic will continually get worse and a underground tube system is proven to work in many countries all over the world! But like everything else common sense doesn't apply to the Governments of this Country to busy lining their own pockets!! And how long would that take? Between planning, financing, and actually implementing, it would be at least 20 years. At that point autonomous vehicles will be the norm, which will be the single biggest factor in reducing traffic on our roads. People won't own their own cars anymore, they will be able to summon them as required. And since people will not be in control, the traffic issues due to bad driving will be removed.
benny79 wrote: » This will never happen but I say it anyway.. To solve all the traffic congestion we need a proper underground, the likes of the Tube in London. That services all of Dublin and out to commuter towns (coming above ground if needs be) This should of being done instead of the Luas imo.. As traffic will continually get worse and a underground tube system is proven to work in many countries all over the world! But like everything else common sense doesn't apply to the Governments of this Country to busy lining their own pockets!!
Sam Russell wrote: » Thank godness that mobile phones exist. If Joe or Bill are later than an agreed time, then they both proceed on their own - no biggie. f it works 9 times out of ten then great. Even five out of tn is worth it. If it is nine out of ten, that is nearly a 50% reduction in traffic.
gilly1910 wrote: » You're hopeful with 20 years, it actually took 27 years all in all to complete the M50 as it stands, so if it took them that long to build a motorway, god only knows how long it would take to build an underground. An underground is never going to happen here, most of the great undergrounds of the world (London, New-York, Paris) started theirs back in the 1800s, so one can only imagine the cost and disruption that would be caused by even attempting an underground in Dublin in this day and age. We've been talking about building a rail link/metro/underground out to the airport for as long as I can remember, yet here we are in 2018, and they're still no closer to it. We are great at coming up with grandiose plans that rarely see the light of day, but lets face facts folks, it's highly unlikely that we will ever see a proper Public transport system in this country.
benny79 wrote: » according to the experts we are 5+ years behind on infrastructure
gilly1910 wrote: » An underground is never going to happen here, most of the great undergrounds of the world (London, New-York, Paris) started theirs back in the 1800s, so one can only imagine the cost and disruption that would be caused by even attempting an underground in Dublin in this day and age.
SeeMoreBut wrote: » What happens if Joe can't leave the same time as Bill? Bill sits around to wait for Joe?
Avatar MIA wrote: » Considering we've come out of a 10 year deep recession it's not bad going.
marno21 wrote: » The last 10 years would have been an ideal time to build, or at least plan, these projects. At the minute we are paying a premium on land, labour and construction costs. Those were not there during the Kenny years. We also have a shortage of projects to be built around 2021 because no money whatsoever was spent on these during 2011-2017.
Deleted User wrote: » I used to do car sharing back in the 1980s just after the Iran crisis, there were three of us. It was not the easiest of car shares as two of us lived in one village the third in another and we worked in two different areas of the same town. So for the first leg, two of us would get into one car and drive five miles to meet the third person. Then take one car to the next town and loop around the ring road, left if I was a passenger, they would drop me off then go around to their workplace and right if I was driving to drop them off before going to work. At a time of high fuel prices and a risk of rationing, it seemed a good idea at the time, but it wasn't easy.
Avatar MIA wrote: » Strangely, prices were cheap for a reason. There was no money, least of all for an IMF (have people forgotten them ?!?) Monitored government.
Deleted User wrote: » The European Investment Bank were crying out for long-term infrastructural projects to fund. The IMF also became much more pro-infrastructural spending (within reason) during the last 7 years. What they disapprove of are things like increasing spending on social welfare during a recession, not long-term investments on infrastructure or human capital.
marno21 wrote: » + a number of infrastructure projects in early planning could have been nightlit to get them to the stage where they could be funded for construction in 2019-2022. Instead, these projects were outright cancelled and many have to start from scratch in 2016/17/18/19, which means they will be ready to start in 2024 or so. It's a total mess that could have been avoided if the kneejerkism that took place around 2011 hadn't taken place. Sure sending projects to construction in 2011-15 was difficult, but funding these, which is approx 1-5% of project cost, would have been prudent. The cost of getting the M20 to An Bord Pleanala is €15-20m. Had this been spent in 2013-2016, it would be ready to start shortly. Instead it won't start for at least 4 years.
Thatnastyboy wrote: » While it makes perfect sense above - Could you imagine the vitriol and backlash that would have came from the public if money was continued to be spent on essentially "shelved" infrastructure projects during that time. Just wouldn't have flown with the public - just like with the whole Irish water craic etc. etc.
Deedsie wrote: » Can the above post be stickied to the opening post and can the inevitable future whingers be refferred to it rather than taking the thread off topic over and over again?
AugustusMinimus wrote: Has any part of the 3 lanes section opened yet or will it be opened in one go in April next year?
Graniteville wrote: » As for 24/7 works? Totally unfeasible. Fine for simple works such as asphalt laying, but not for anything else. Health and safety would be one issue. Cost (multiple times that of daylight working) is another. Errors due to lack of light is a third.
It was a competitive tender. Development time is as important as cost. Huge benefits of finishing early including having contractors move to next project and bragging rights that can help win other contracts.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » Anyone saying that their is no incentive for finishing early has no clue.
AugustusMinimus wrote: » Has any part of the 3 lanes section opened yet or will it be opened in one go in April next year?
pad199207 wrote: » Hope all is okayhttps://www.facebook.com/390174511192698/posts/912254355651375/
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