Snowfire wrote: » From watching the documentary, it would appear that Garda McCabe derived great pleasure from hearing the news of resignations both justice ministers. Even tho neither of them should have been forced to do so.
Snowfire wrote: From watching the documentary, it would appear that Garda McCabe derived great pleasure from hearing the news of resignations both justice ministers. Even tho neither of them should have been forced to do so.
Snowfire wrote: » Well disclosures findings didn’t appear to think so. Emails were irrelevant
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Another interesting facet to all this is at no stage did McCabe feel confident in approaching a FG TD strange that when FG sees them as the law and order party.
Wildly Boaring wrote: John mc Guinness comes out as a man of principle and moral courage.
An Ri rua wrote: » How exactly is Paul Williams in any way morally superior now to the gangleaders he so bravely pursues. He's what's worst about any society. Wouldn't it be obvious, in the social contract that we all implicitly make with one another in the society that we call Ireland, that a Garda Iis a citizen among citizens and therefore both deserves special protections and also stronger sanctions. This implicit understanding has ramifications for both Callinan et al and McCabe. All took an oath, all received specific powers to be used in a specific way and all should be dealt with appropriately. While Callinan, Taylor etc were engaging in this heinous behaviour, they were clearly neglecting their duties or at least not giving them full attention. That, for senior public servants, is a serious breach of duty and needs to be seen to be punished by our betters. For the good of the public and for the good of most rank and file Gardai who swore an oath of fealty.
angeleyes wrote: » Plus, a lot to be said for Maurice McCabe's detective skills as he had the foresight to record every conversation as if he hadn't it would be a case of "he said/he/they said".
Nermal wrote: » That's what gets me: if he hadn't done that, we'd all be thinking he was a crank and more than likely a pedophile.
eastie17 wrote: » Why is that? Is it our laws or just an endemic cultural issue? If its the laws why don't they change them? If its a constitutional thing (although unless the constitution says, "you can do whatever the **** you like in the public sector and nothing will happen to you" I don't see how that would be the issue) lets have a referendum on that rather than the other ****e they have us voting on such as is it a crime to say you don't like God or some such.
spockety wrote: » Yeah and the reaction you saw from Maurice McCabe last night on it was recorded on the day the news broke that they were resigning. He didn't have the benefit of the findings of the disclosures tribunal. And anyway, so what?
STB. wrote: » He derived great pleasure from being vindicated after taking superiors at their word that there would be ample investigation only for stuff to be shut down or attempt to be shut down by those at the very top. There was plenty of reasons for BOTH Justice Ministers to resign. They were either both highly incompetent or complicit. Take your pick. I suggest you read the history of the cases.
Mrsmum wrote: » They hardly went out on a limb for him in any way at any stage.
SoupyNorman wrote: » It aggravates me that Tusla got away free and clear. His file was 110 pages long detailing how his kids were possibly at risk, the ‘copy/paste’ error describing him doing awful things to children etc etc Something like that isn’t created on a whim, it takes time, takes investigation and you need to be given all the information. You know, Tusla had all these details yet never visited the McCabe home or interviewed his kids, him, his wife. I feel there was too much focus on the copy/paste portion and not enough focus on how such a detailed file was created without any interaction with everyone referred to in the report.
pumpkin4life wrote: » I talked about before at the time about a lad I know in justice said that the sentiment among the highest up lads was that Leo didn't back Fitzgerald up because he's a good person or whatever, it was because Fitzgerald was threatening to name other people who conspired with Callahan to bring McCabe down; those people including other TDs and Ministers in the Dail, if she was made to resign. Some deals were made and Fitzgerald stepped down. A lot more than the government would have been affected. These people are not your friends like. There's still more to this McCabe stuff by the looks of things.
