kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
charlie14 wrote: » Just listening to Tony Connelly on RTE News. Seems the only backstop is an all UK CU. If there isn`t an "unless and until" clause then we are in trouble here.
Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » Hopefully this is the case. Loyalist blogger Jamie Bryson is suggesting otherwise but I'd be sceptical of this:https://twitter.com/JamieBrysonCPNI/status/1062423123193139200 A lot of smoke and mirrors going on. Plays into the familiar DUP tactic that if things seem bad for us, it's even worse for them.
Hurrache wrote: » Anyone hear if the vote is due during tomorrow's parliamentary session?
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » https://twitter.com/anguswalkertalk/status/1062426691547602945 Seems those words are there. The NI specific elements are thought to be significant. Have to wait for the actual text though. NI would remain in the Single Market.
BonnieSituation wrote: » I really wish people would not preface any ramblings of Mr Bryson with "Loyalist Blogger" in order to give him some legitimacy. If you knew of the man's history and abject absence of anything approaching what we would label as "intelligence" you wouldn't be so quick to post his guff. That's not the first time he's popped up here. I couldn't let it slide this time.
There is stark and overwhelming evidence that the English people who voted for Brexit do not, on the whole, care about the United Kingdom and in particular do not care about that part of it called Northern Ireland. When asked in the recent “Future of England” survey whether “the unravelling of the peace process in Northern Ireland” is a “price worth paying” for Brexit that allows them to “take back control,” fully 83 percent of Leave voters and 73 percent of Conservative voters in England agree that it is. This is not, surely, mere mindless cruelty; it expresses a deep belief that Northern Ireland is not “us,” that what happens “over there” is not “our” responsibility. Equally, in the Channel 4 survey, asked how they would feel if “Brexit leads to Northern Ireland leaving the United Kingdom and joining the Republic of Ireland,” 61 percent of Leave voters said they would be “not very concerned” or “not at all concerned.” This may be startling but it is also a pretty clear message. The problem, though, is that no one in either of the two main parties wants to talk about it. In one of history’s little jokes, the English national revolution that is Brexit led to Northern Ireland’s small ultra-unionist Democratic Unionist Party holding the balance of power at Westminster and keeping Theresa May in office. Thus, while the people who voted for Brexit are waving goodbye to the UK, May—with, in this, the support of Labour—has turned up the volume on her declarations of love for the United Kingdom: “I will always fight to strengthen and sustain this precious, precious Union.” The future of the Union, moreover, has become central to the negotiations with the EU. The emerging deal will be horribly complex, largely because of British insistence that no arrangements must be made to prevent a hard border in Ireland that would in any way differentiate Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK. Brexit cannot be properly articulated because it has made a sacred cause of fighting for the very thing that Brexit’s voters don’t care about. As Lady Bracknell remarked, “This shilly-shallying with the question is absurd.”https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/11/13/how-brexit-broke-up-britain
An Ciarraioch wrote: » Still there, it seems:http://twitter.com/anguswalkertalk/status/1062426691547602945
lawred2 wrote: » That's unlikely surely. Parliament hasn't even seen the text yet.
An Ciarraioch wrote: » UK Attorney General quoted as saying NI would be in "different regulatory regime and subject to EU laws and institutions" - impossible to see HoC approving that:http://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1062456138896150528
Strazdas wrote: » The DUP are definitely voting down the deal. Sammy Wilson told Sharon ni Bheolain on the Nine news they will vote against it (not that they 'may do', but that they have already made the decision to do it).
The Pheasant2 wrote: » What's the story re parliamentary arithmetic, if the DUP and Brexiters vote it down is that it snuffed?
Mr.Nice Guy wrote: » Surprised by this claim:https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1062457793297420289 I thought the EU had ruled out independent arbitration?
An Ciarraioch wrote: » Hope you're not holding any hot drinks while reading this, but the Daily Express approve the deal!http://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1062462871806898176
devnull wrote: » Honestly, I had to check if the date was 1st April. That is very surprising!
judeboy101 wrote: » Massive climbdown by EU, allowing "independent arbitration. Where is the ECJ? I think the reason Irish gov so quiet is the shock at finding a large knife protruding from their back. So much for the "back stop".
