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Whistleblower: Maurice McCabe

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RTE are doing a two part documentary on Sgt Maurice McCabe. I think it should be a must watch for people. This honourable man was nearly destroyed by a corrupt Garda management for trying to do the right thing.

His courage and bravery should be rewarded by the state but I think any future whistleblowers will think twice before trying to highlight bad practice in the Gardaí.

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gctest50

Goldengirl wrote: »

You are so literal...used to giving orders there, guard!

Sorry nurse ....... hang on, do i know you from copper faced jacks ? any of the kids have ginger hair ? :eek:

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gctest50

Goldengirl wrote: »

Sorry guard, you didn't say the exact words, but saying that someone is trying to get ' everything ' right because they are crxxxping themselves infers that is what you think of people who are perfectionists , or do you have particular personal knowledge of Mr McCabe?

Goldengirl wrote: »

infers that is what you think of people ........

No it doesn't

stick to what i said , stop dreaming n fantasising kthx

Goldengirl wrote: »

you didn't say the exact words,

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Aidric

The most important yet devastating detail from this documentary was the decision taken by McCabe to check himself out of the psychiatric hospital and fight his corner.

The majority of people in that situation would have folded. He has an incredible conscience.

gctest50

Goldengirl wrote: »

Ah sure, every body who wants to see things corrected must be in the wrong so, by your reckoning.

Goldengirl wrote: »

every body ...........

Where did i say every body ?

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

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MFPM

lonestar 74 wrote: »

Martin Callinan is some piece of work. Although Noreen O' Sullivan has been found to be not guilty of any misconduct been second in command she was up to her neck in it and even a half wit would tell you no different. It'll be interesting to see what the final outcome will be. Although I won't be holding my breath for Callinan to get any half decent punishment for his "DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR" He is no better than a playground bully. I'd love to be a fly in the wall of MC sitting room when Whistleblower The Maurice McCabe Story is on. Part 2 should make for interesting viewing.

Remember O'Sullivan has been absolved only for her time as Assistant Commissioner - the media coverage has been a little disingenuous in that. Her role as Commissioner has still be played out before Charlton. She's a clever operator - she was absolutely out to get McCabe, proving it is another matter though.

lonestar 74

Martin Callinan is some piece of work. Although Noreen O' Sullivan has been found to be not guilty of any misconduct been second in command she was up to her neck in it and even a half wit would tell you no different. It'll be interesting to see what the final outcome will be. Although I won't be holding my breath for Callinan to get any half decent punishment for his "DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR" He is no better than a playground bully. I'd love to be a fly in the wall of MC sitting room when Whistleblower The Maurice McCabe Story is on. Part 2 should make for interesting viewing.

Goldengirl

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Plumbthedepths

MFPM wrote:

Judging by your posts on this thread, you have a very developed attitude to McCabe based on very little evidence, you've thrown up alot of strawmen and innuendo but not much else.

Skin in the game so to speak.

MFPM

cursai wrote: »

Hope he's not too traumatised to have appeared in party two of his show on the national broadcaster. I know he likes to keep his head down.

Judging by your posts on this thread, you have a very developed attitude to McCabe based on very little evidence, you've thrown up alot of strawmen and innuendo but not much else.

kravmaga

cursai wrote: »

Hope he's not too traumatised to have appeared in party two of his show on the national broadcaster. I know he likes to keep his head down.

Would you be a member by any chance?:rolleyes:

He has the right to express his opinion on what hapened to him.

What do you mean, he likes to keep his head down? Please do expand on that sentence you made?

Plumbthedepths

Goldengirl wrote:

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The same justice minister claimed neither of the whistle blowers engaged with the enquiry, McCabe and Wilson were not named at the time. They were never interviewed , several months later Shatter had to acknowledge this in the Dail and correct the record.

givyjoe

gctest50 wrote: »

Maybe McCabe knew the complaint was coming sooner or later and played up the super-straight-n-legal garda thing

and his reluctance to let anything "go" was just him cr@pping himself at the time

Good one officer.

kravmaga

davidmarsh wrote: »

He left the force recently, didn't he..

What's next for him I wonder.

I hope the exposure and positive reaction that this brings him can restore some of his confidence and faith in people, generally speaking. He's still a young man with so much to offer.

I don't get the impression from him that he'd be content with the feet up every day enjoying his compensation (ie. drinking tea, like a real Guard!)

He took retirement after 30 years service, normal thing to do. Lump sum and pension like any other Guard.

He didnt get awarded any compensation so far, he is taking a civil case against Former AGS Commissioner Callinan and Former Supt Taylor, rightly so.

What I couldnt believe is that the State solicitor will be offering services to Callinan. Tax payers money should not be used , Callinan should pay his own way, its Disgusting :mad:

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1113/1010609-maurice-mccabe-martin-callinan/

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gctest50

Goldengirl wrote: »

I don't think MrsMum's position is hypocritical. The coincidence of the complaint coming after so many years, directly after Mr D had been disciplined is pretty obvious to most people.

Maybe McCabe knew the complaint was coming sooner or later and played up the super-straight-n-legal garda thing

"The tribunal has previously heard how, as a teenager, Ms D complained to gardaí in 2006 that she had been molested by Sgt McCabe when she was aged six or seven during a game of hide and seek in his home."

and his reluctance to let anything "go" was just him cr@pping himself at the time

Plumbthedepths

cursai wrote:

Hope he's not too traumatised to have appeared in party two of his show on the national broadcaster. I know he likes to keep his head down.

You realise the programme was made in one go and spilt into two segments. Not keeping his head down is what seems to have upset you and certain other members in the force. When did you leave/retire btw?

cursai

Hope he's not too traumatised to have appeared in party two of his show on the national broadcaster. I know he likes to keep his head down.

Goldengirl

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Aidric

What Maurice McCabe and his family was put through is utterly unconscionable. They have shown incredible resolve to get through the ordeal.

It was clear from the documentary that he had a passion to be a guard and act with the highest standards. As soon as he raised concerns there was a concerted campaign to crush him.

Callinan came across as an odious bully. His aggressive and arrogant body language during the PAC hearings surrounded by his lackeys said a lot. His subsequent threat to McGuinness in the hotel car park meeting bore this out. He should be before a court for the damage inflicted on this man and his family.

Edgware

The A.G. etc will huff and puff and then do nothing because of "precedent" from other Tribunals where people including politicians got costs sorted.

Captain Obvious

Laois_Man wrote: »

Just watched it on RTE player

Are we supposed to have any confidence that the policing standards in Bailieborough Garda Station are any higher now than they were in the 00's?

I didn't get any such confidence from Part I

What's more, are we supposed to have any confidence that the policing standards in any other Irish Garda Station are any higher than in Bailieborough?

I didn't get that either from Part I

Do you think I'll get it from Part II?

I don't expect to!

i don't think that's the goal of the program.

twinytwo

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Attorney General examining if it's possible to hold Callinan personal liable for some of the costs arising from the McCabe debacle. He won't get jail but it would be nice to see him bankrupt by his actions.

Only in ireland would this happen... but then am i surprised?

The one guard who actually did his job, the farce that ensues and all the perpatraitors walk away with essentially slap on the wrist. and sure didnt o Sullivan get a nice cushy job in the eu so she would retire without making a fuss instead of getting jail time.

Good old ireland, corrupt to the core

And i wonder where all the snowflakes are protesting this? But i supposed its a real world problem so they know nothing about it

Laois_Man

Just watched it on RTE player

Are we supposed to have any confidence that the policing standards in Bailieborough Garda Station are any higher now than they were in the 00's?

I didn't get any such confidence from Part I

What's more, are we supposed to have any confidence that the policing standards in any other Irish Garda Station are any higher than in Bailieborough?

I didn't get that either from Part I

Do you think I'll get it from Part II?

I don't expect to!

I feel more sorry for McCabe's wife in the whole thing than anyone else. You can sense there were many rows between them during all of this - that he wouldn't just let it go, even after he transferred to Mullingar and swore he wouldn't take anything in that Garda station on even if the unit didn't come in to work, and then someone tells him that some people are getting off on multiple traffic offenses and he starts writing to The Taoiseach and Government ministers and chasing it up with Noel Brett. She won't say it on camera, but I'd say she wanted to kill him herself a number of times!

Goldengirl

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tayto lover

Goldengirl wrote: »

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Agree.
But the new Commissioner is again too close to the politicians and has also come from an organisation steeped in secrecy. In fact he was high up in the secrecy stakes.

Captain Obvious

tayto lover wrote: »

I think you might be wrong here. It seems a Garda couldn't do that. It had to be a high ranking Garda according to the RTE News but I don't know what rank.

Inspector is the lowest rank that could cancel. I think they did have to pick a reason from a drop down menu but I think there was an "other" option where a description box had to be filled in. Often this box would not be properly completed as there was no standard requirement for what should be in it.