kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
Thatnastyboy wrote: » how does one allow for anything at the moment?
Thatnastyboy wrote: » Trying to price work here for Q2 2019, With significant componentry required to be purchased from the UK starting in April.. Crystal ball stuff - how does one allow for anything at the moment?
Thatnastyboy wrote: » Exactly, it's going to need to be a full opt out clause by the looks of it. It's a commodity too so will undoubtedly be affected by anything less than a good deal.. Probably not the right thread for it here though, Best to let them "get on with it" I suppose
Hurrache wrote: » So this is being reported. In an ordinary world you'd be thinking WTF, but it's par for the course with these negotiations.
prawnsambo wrote: » Is the commodity not available elsewhere in the EU?
GoldCore, the Dublin-based precious metals broker, has opened Ireland’s first institutional-grade gold storage vault amid hopes that there’ll be a mini gold rush of investors moving bars to Dublin from London as they prepare for Brexit.
listermint wrote: » This. I would be sourcing from elsewhere, were the price can be obtained with a relative stability even if its slightly more expensive, you are paying for that reassurance
Folkstonian wrote: » Yes, let us indeed wait for the next data to be released that might back up your absurd claims, because the most current data sets available certainly do not. At least you tacitly acknowledge that. You don’t upset me, but your motivations do intrigue me. You are a sensationalist and a fantasist.
Hurrache wrote: So this is being reported. In an ordinary world you'd be thinking WTF, but it's par for the course with these negotiations.
Thatnastyboy wrote: » It is as such yes, but, Ireland is aligned with british standards for this commodity, and the way this commodity is provided from the UK is different to how it's provided from the EU (different production methods & 'sizes') the clients design uses the british stuff..
Leroy42 wrote: » This is interesting. Will Brexit force us to move away from our traditional dependence on the UK, and with it the standards? If extra tariffs/delays on UK sourced products will this lead to a gradual move away from this market to continental Europe?
joe40 wrote: » Am I right in thinking all the negotiations going on at the moment are only to allow progress from brexit to the transition phase.
joe40 wrote: » They haven't even started to discuss possible trade deals/regulations for a full post Brexit situation.
joe40 wrote: » Also with all the talk of a second referendum, would the EU allow the UK just to remain and forget about the last 2 years if the second referendum was for remain. Article 50 has been triggered after all.
prawnsambo wrote: » Simple answer is yes. But this stage is vital as it's the withdrawal agreement which deals with existing commitments that have to be discharged and locked down. They've been trying to. A lot of time wasted trying to make end runs around Barnier and start trade negotiations that the A50 process doesn't include. A50 does allow for the agreement of a "framework for a future relationship" but that's a political statement that isn't binding. Most commentators believe that atual trade negotiations with the EU for a FTA could take as much as eight years. There are certainly opinions that the whole thing can be stopped by withdrawal of the Article 50 notice. It may require unainmous approval from the EU 27, but it's not been ruled out as an option.
kowtow wrote: » EU Commission now proposing change to law that would allow visa free travel for UK citizens (and vice versa) in EU. Short stay only. Specific measure to apply in the case of NO deal as well as more orderly circumstances.
RobMc59 wrote: » Looking at article 50 it says it's written in such an ambiguous way that it probably could be reversed. In addition to this France and Germany have said if Britain comes to its senses and changes it mind it can stay on the same terms.
Tell me how wrote: » If that were to happen, it would embolden euro-sceptics across the continent. They would argue that negotiations on a WA were hamstrung to ensure that they remained and also that that indicated just how powerful the EU now is that countries cannot even leave when they want to.
prawnsambo wrote: » They could say it, but would anyone actually believe it? This process has played out in the full glare of the media. There must be entire forests of reportage on the witterings of UK government ministers opening their mouths to change feet. I'm sure there will be some who'll deny the facts for political purposes, but we've been saturated with this stuff for over two years.
kowtow wrote: » Tell me how wrote: » If that were to happen, it would embolden euro-sceptics across the continent. They would argue that negotiations on a WA were hamstrung to ensure that they remained and also that that indicated just how powerful the EU now is that countries cannot even leave when they want to. I'm about as euro-sceptic as one can be in this country without being sectioned, and even I cannot conceive of a country which can possibly think that leaving the EU voluntarily is a viable option after watching the events of the last couple of years! There'll be a big push now for further integration on a number of different fronts, and - personally - I think populations & politicians are going to acquiesce much more easily than we might all have thought at one stage. Brexit will be a source of both leverage and political cover for those who favour "more Europe" in Brussels and I think they are way too smart to squander it.
RobMc59 wrote: » As in any divorce,why should the EU make it easy for the UK to leave?-the brexiteers are foolish to think the EU would have waved the UK off into the sunset merrily cherry picking as they go-so the EU wouldn't be forcing the UK to stay,just not rolling over.
