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Soccer scumbaggery

Roger Hassenforder

Whats with all the thuggery of late in soccerball?
A reflection on the calibre of gentleman attracted to soccer?

Matches abandoned kids getting slaps from adults:
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/sport/soccer/adults-have-been-striking-out-at-young-players-ddsl-issues-warning-over-brawls-after-seven-games-are-abandoned-in-the-last-six-weeks-37493043.html

Heres a ref after getting a kicking:
https://twitter.com/JoeCassidyIRE/status/1061697431350505473?s=19

Not just a Dublin thing:
http://admin-www.eveningecho.ie/corksport/Soccer-league-clamps-down-after-brawl-60bf8800-47b7-4572-a783-9edc70d80fb2-ds

Harumph.
*turms on DVD of 2018 Grand Slam.

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JohnnyFlash

Surprised this didn’t happen at a League of Ireland game. Middle-aged bald men wearing parkas pretending to have a go at each other before a game between two teams of long ball merchants.

greenspurs

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Surprised this didn’t happen at a League of Ireland game. QUOTE]

Did you even read the story???

Fcuk all to do with rival supporters ! But I suppose it mentioned soccer, so creates a chance for you to have a dig at (troll) soccer lovers that are on this thread ..... Dumb

fryup

particularly nasty incident my sympathies go out to him....but...is it worthy of being the leading headline on our national TV station??

YFlyer

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Feck, im rumbled.

Played all sports, brutal at hurling, not much better at soccer, but i had a lot of mass and was fast, which came in useful in rugby. Zero skill

Bull Hayes?

StupidLikeAFox

Glad to see the guards are investigating this. This is nothing to do with the sport - most sports have a level of aggression involved which sometimes escalates to a few digs. This incident is something else entirely.

Arghus

Necro wrote: »

I mean there's violence attached to most sports because of people being idiots but soccer is literally the worst for violence, racism and hatred in comparison to any other organised team sport.

And it's not even close.

Football worldwide has more of these problems because it has more people who follow it than any other sport.

And it's not even close.

If you had the same amounts of people playing or attending rugby or GAA or whatever regularly, you'd have just the same amount of these kind of incidents.

Considering the absolute multitudes around the world who go to games week in week out you could argue that proportionally football fans are in actual fact amazingly well behaved. I've been to hundreds of games and I've yet to be viciously attacked.

Sam Quentin

It's a bit worrying how rugball peeps can easily let the word scumbag flow of their ohhh so respectful tongue.
Filthy mouths the lot of you.

FanadMan

Sam Quentin wrote: »

It's a bit worrying how rugball peeps can easily let the word scumbag flow of their ohhh so respectful tongue.
Filthy mouths the lot of you.

Is it any different from bogger ball?

Guy:Incognito

Arghus wrote: »

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If you had the same amounts of people playing or attending rugby or GAA or whatever regularly, you'd have just the same amount of these kind of incidents.
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It happened in Ireland so it's fair to compare it to the level of incidents in gaa in Ireland.

steves2

I gave up playing junior soccer years ago, were playing teams in the Dublin area. Just wasn't worth the hassle, we played some absolute scumbag teams who'd stop at nothing to win a game. At one game this total header chased the ref around the pitch because he sent him off, game was abandoned. Then at a home game there was a mass brawl after a scrote from the other team was taking a throw. He just stopped, threw the ball down, turned around and started fighting with our subs bench because someone was laughing. It's not confined to soccer at all, to some guys it's what they look forward to at the weekend.

Macdarack

If you raise your voice or back chat to a ref in rugby, you're gone, and mostly the the captains are the only ones allowed to talk to the ref.
Fai and the Gaa really need to instill similar policies to their sports, the game can't be played without refs and beating the shiit out of a ref for whatever reason is a disgrace and deserves a lengthy prison sentence and life ban.
This Idea of surrounding the ref and smothering him expecting a reverse in a decision gauls me, a new disciplinary code drawn up by the refs and the Fai needs to be arranged and followed through with the help of the guards, zero tolerance to these people. For the love of sport.

davo2001

A friend of mine was at the game in question, the actions were preformed by a well known family from the area that has "ethic minority status"

His son missed a penalty or something like that and the ref wouldn't let him take it again.

Three of them followed the ref to the car park and beat the ****e out of him. One of the fellow ethic minority lads tried to calm him down after the event and had his car window smashed in with a golf club by the same person.

Roger Hassenforder

davo2001 wrote: »

Three of them followed the ref to the car park and beat the ****e out of him. One of the fellow ethic minority lads tried to calm him down after the event and had his car window smashed in with a golf club by the same person.

*clutches pearls

surely this scumbaggery doesnt carry on in golf clubs as well?
Mother of god, where will this end?
Royal Cork Yacht Club (Crosshaven to you plebs) better beef up security.

greenspurs

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

*clutches pearls

surely this scumbaggery doesnt carry on in golf clubs as well?
Mother of god, where will this end?
Royal Cork Yacht Club (Crosshaven to you plebs) better beef up security.

Sorry , but your attempt at sarcasm probably wouldn't be of any solace to the amateur referee doing a job (not many have the balls to do, but feel they are better at it than the man in the middle!!) and got assaulted because, some scumbags didn't like his decision.

Sweet.Science

FanadMan wrote: »

Is it any different from bogger ball?

Whats bogger ball ?

Tombo2001

This is not a laughing matter and soccer in Ireland needs to have a long look at itself.

greenspurs

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Whats bogger ball ?

A slighty defamatory term for Gaelic football....... (bog ball)

Sweet.Science

greenspurs wrote: »

A slighty defamatory term for Gaelic football....... (bog ball)

Ah ok . Even though Dublin are the best at it . The irony

Xterminator

Soccer could learn lessons from other sports like Rugby where there is a culture of respecting the referee.

Hopefully the fallout from the latest controversy gets some action from FAI on thinks like longer mandatory bans etc. and soem sort of respect the ref campaign.

threein99

MyStubbleItches wrote: »

Soccer players could learn a hell of a lot from rugby players when it comes to respect towards refs.

and also friendly arm breaking, biting, stamping on people on the floor and eye gouging

PlaneSpeeking

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Ah ok . Even though Dublin are the best at it get the lion's share of the funding and best facilities. The irony

Fixed that there so.

PlaneSpeeking

Xterminator wrote: »

Soccer could learn lessons from other sports like Rugby where there is a culture of respecting the referee.

Hopefully the fallout from the latest controversy gets some action from FAI on thinks like longer mandatory bans etc. and soem sort of respect the ref campaign.

I've never been a big fan of those. As soon as refs stop being little Hitlers and drama queens who think they cannot be questioned THEN they can be respected.

Radharc na Sleibhte

Who calls it soccerball? Or was that meant to be demeaning or something?

Cantona's Collars

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

Who calls it soccerball? Or was that meant to be demeaning or something?

Someone trying to get a reaction.

Sweet.Science

Radharc na Sleibhte wrote: »

Who calls it soccerball? Or was that meant to be demeaning or something?

Must be . People are weird. Always try demean sports they aren't interested in.

Guy:Incognito

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

I've never been a big fan of those. As soon as refs stop being little Hitlers and drama queens who think they cannot be questioned THEN they can be respected.

Questioned on what though? When do refs listen to you ranting at them and then go "you know what, you're right, I'll reverse that decision"? Take the decision and move on.

Refs don't have replays anyway so pretty much what youre saying is refs should not trust their own decisions but instead take players at their word. I can see that working...........

Tombo2001

Xterminator wrote: »

Soccer could learn lessons from other sports like Rugby where there is a culture of respecting the referee.

Hopefully the fallout from the latest controversy gets some action from FAI on thinks like longer mandatory bans etc. and soem sort of respect the ref campaign.

I would say actually soccer could learn from all other sports.

Soccer is the outlier.

Any other sport - Boxing, Tennis, Cricket, Baseball, American Football, Basketball and indeed Gaelic Football or Hurling - referees are given way more respect than they get in soccer.

Soccer is the outlier - soccer is the game where the idea of being an example and behaving with decency towards your opponent and the referee has just gone out the window. Whether that be the culture of faffing about on the ground looking for frees, or in hassling the ref at every turn - or at the very top end in selling the World Cup to a place like Qatar - the sport completely lacks leadership and example at the moment.

Sweet.Science

Tombo2001 wrote: »

I would say actually soccer could learn from all other sports.

Soccer is the outlier.

Any other sport - Boxing, Tennis, Cricket, Baseball, American Football, Basketball and indeed Gaelic Football or Hurling - referees are given way more respect than they get in soccer.

Soccer is the outlier - soccer is the game where the idea of being an example and behaving with decency towards your opponent and the referee has just gone out the window. Whether that be the culture of faffing about on the ground looking for frees, or in hassling the ref at every turn - or at the very top end in selling the World Cup to a place like Qatar - the sport completely lacks leadership and example at the moment.

I know in GAA a free is brought closer for abusing the ref . Would that work in soccer ?

inforfun

The bal would end up in the stands then

spurious

It's not the sport, it's the participants and their supporters. Mostly of one gender it would appear.

Why do we as a society continue to accept this 'I couldn't help myself, it was the drink/heat of the moment/excitement' excuse for people who choose to act like scum?

Anyone who does not have wee and poo running down their legs is well able to control themselves, whether it is to not rape a young woman wearing some fancy underwear or clatter a referee around the head because they didn't like a decision. They choose not to.