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Battlefield V

Spear

And so the hype begins:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/817ox7/leaked_logo_for_battlefield_2018/

initially referred to as Battlefield 2, it's renamed to Battlefield V. Which is still odd, all other version used a number, rather than a roman numeral.

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Akrasia

awec wrote: »

Bombers are seriously OP in this. You can hit one 10 times with an anti-aircraft gun and it still doesn't go down.

Yeah, but fighters can take them out pretty quickly.

I think fighters like the spitfire and BF109 are rubbish against ground targets but strong against air targets in order to balance out the air ground combat mechanic. If there's a bomber destroying your team, you need to get some fighters in the air to shoot them down.

The plane combat in this game is brilliant. Much better than in BF1 or even BF4

Twisted steel is an awesome map for fighter battles. I was playing last night and several times I couldn't shake the fighter from my tail so I had to use the bridge by either flying under it, or between the cables holding up the suspension bridge. It's so satisfying to squeeze your fighter through this gap to look behind you and see your attacker smash into the bridge or even better, if they manage to squeeze through as well and keep attacking.

It's also incredible as an infantry player to have these low altitude air battles going on right over your head as you're trying to capture a choke point.

I love the way this game plays. As others have said, the sniper scope is really useful for your team as it can really help them push an objective or take out an advancing army. The attrition system isn't that noticeable if you're not camping. It makes vehicle gameplay more strategic. You can't just sit on a hill and rain down shells like you could before.

There are a few bugs and glitches which are a bit annoying. The bipod doesn't deploy well for the MMGs (as has been said before) It's very annoying when you're trying to set up a defensive position and your bipod keeps falling off.

In the Grand operations, there are lots of bugs with the explosives either not spawning, or spawning in a place where they can't be picked up. I had a game which got stuck in limbo where there were no attacking tickets left but the game just kept going. I had to restart a few times when my soldier got stuck just after the deploy at the start of a game. The heat haze on Hamada makes flying planes a pain in the ass. You can't see any targets on the ground and even identifying other planes is difficult. (this may have been a bug, I only played one round on this map in a plane)

I watched some online reviews of this game and it's funny how totally wrong some of them are. They compare it to COD saying it doesn't feel like a war. That's utter nonsense. In all the maps I have seen whole squads of soldiers advancing together to capture an objective in a surge that is extremely cinematic. I have seen multiple tank battles and advances and I have seen air ground combat way more advanced than anything COD has to offer.

One review said COD4 was better because it had more maps, and then said that he liked all the BFv maps better and way preferred the gameplay.
Some people are not too smart.

Akrasia

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Aircraft are actually really overpowered in this. The bombers anyway. They are really difficult to take down, AA guns only tickle them. They have an option to either increase armour or their payload but because they are extremely resilient without the armour upgrade everyone picks the extra payload.

And their damage output is ridiculous, there's a video on reddit showing a bomber killing 16 people in a single pass.

There's numerous other videos with bombers killing up to 10 people in one bombing pass and bombers going on 100+ killstreaks.

I thought they would have learned their lesson from BF1 but no, they've made bombers even worse.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9wfxwc/this_is_why_dice_really_need_to_change_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9w4y3h/38_bombs_on_the_maxed_out_ju88_is_nuts/

Good pilots can do incredible amounts of damage. Most pilots are awful though

I think Dice need to change the kill attribution for planes. If you're shooting a plane and it crashes, you hardly ever get credit for the kill. If a plane is being damaged and being suppressed while it crashes, the suppressing player should get a kill.

Akrasia

Dcully wrote: »

What your seeing now is twice as fast to revive with both medic and non medic as it was in the beta`s.
They have already put work into changing it and speeding it up but its not enough imo, i agree with you it needs more attention.

My other major issue during all beta stages is the attrition system and thankfully its so much better now and actually a decent system now.

The decision on whether or not to revive has always been a part of playing medic. If someone is bleeding out in the open where there are enemies around, you should either kill the enemies first, or lay down a smoke grenade before you begin reviving

Other players need to learn when to call for a revive and when to bleed out. If they can see they're being covered by an enemy, they should bleed out rather than put their team mate into harms way.

The revive mechanic in this game is much better balanced than in the Beta and in previous games. Medics can spot players to tell them to hang on, this gives them time to clear the area. If the medic dies or forget about them, the downed player can get back into the action with minimal delay compared to just bleeding straight out.

Nijmegen

The other interesting thing about bombers is you can switch instantly to the rear turret. Got a fighter on your tail? Switch immediately, no movement animation as with other vehicles; and start blasting away at him. If you're not too low or you've angled the planes nose up, you have plenty of time to chip away at him.

That said I'm still thinking this is the most fun I've had in Battlefield in a long time. Wish they'd remake a few BF1942 maps for old times sake.

Shlippery

From Dan Mitre on reddit ;

On Wednesday, November 14th, 2018, we will be releasing an update for Battlefield V for all platforms for the release of Battlefield V Deluxe Edition. While this update has no downtime, if you are in-game when the update is deployed, you will need to finish your match and then restart your client to apply the update.

The update will be available for the following platforms at the following times:

PC - Update will be rolling out to PC players starting on Nov 14th at 900 UTC / 1:00AM PST.
Xbox One - Update will be rolling out to Xbox One players starting on Nov 14th at 1000 UTC / 2:00AM PST.
PS4 - Update will be rolling out to PS4 players starting at 1100 UTC/ 3:00AM PST.
The update will be the following sizes:

PC: 26.2387GB
XB1: 21.0145GB
PS4: 15.0141GB
Battlefield V will start rolling out to Deluxe Edition players on Wednesday, November 14th, at 1100 UTC / 3:00AM PST through November 15, 6AM UTC / 10PM PDT November 14th.

Nice hefty patch

- new figures just in-

Sorry! We had the wrong figures. Just updated.

PC: 1.56GB
XB1: 530MB
PS4: 350MB

awec

Bombers are seriously OP in this. You can hit one 10 times with an anti-aircraft gun and it still doesn't go down.

Shlippery

awec wrote: »

A decent medic, who heals and revives, will make the difference.

Support and sniper is meh.

Go Recon and whip out the spotting scope. It's incredibly useful and the team will love you for it. Spotting scope is more fnu than actually sniping. (If there's a big attack on an objective, whip out the scope from afar and light up the enemies for your tieam)

Support is great for fortifications and raining death with the mmgs!

awec

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

Despite racking up kills they appear to be having near 0 effect on the match.

Had a grand operations match yesterday and there was this amazing pilot on the enemy team who was bombing our defenses to hell and constantly getting his bombs spot on to little mobs of teams.

But that didnt stop us from crushing his team and winning.

Which is similar to my issue with snipers. I've been sniped a lot but I've seen very few snipers actually turn the state of battle, while I've seen plenty of players going medic or assault and be that extra important body to push us over the line.

A decent medic, who heals and revives, will make the difference.

Support and sniper is meh.

BlitzKrieg

Panic Stations wrote: »

They don't even have the M1 Garand in the game yet. That's a big disappointment for a WW2 game.

the tommy gun is there though.

Cause the British actually used the tommy gun while they didnt like the garand at all.

BlitzKrieg

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Aircraft are actually really overpowered in this. The bombers anyway. They are really difficult to take down, AA guns only tickle them. They have an option to either increase armour or their payload but because they are extremely resilient without the armour upgrade everyone picks the extra payload.

And their damage output is ridiculous, there's a video on reddit showing a bomber killing 16 people in a single pass.

There's numerous other videos with bombers killing up to 10 people in one bombing pass and bombers going on 100+ killstreaks.

I thought they would have learned their lesson from BF1 but no, they've made bombers even worse.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9wfxwc/this_is_why_dice_really_need_to_change_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9w4y3h/38_bombs_on_the_maxed_out_ju88_is_nuts/

Despite racking up kills they appear to be having near 0 effect on the match.

Had a grand operations match yesterday and there was this amazing pilot on the enemy team who was bombing our defenses to hell and constantly getting his bombs spot on to little mobs of teams.

But that didnt stop us from crushing his team and winning.

Which is similar to my issue with snipers. I've been sniped a lot but I've seen very few snipers actually turn the state of battle, while I've seen plenty of players going medic or assault and be that extra important body to push us over the line.

awec

The Grand Operations is pretty fun.

But also buggy. We got to the stage where we had to plant bombs on some cannons (phase 3 on defence), but it was bugged out and wouldn't let us plant. In the meantime, bombers just kept flying overhead and getting loads of kills every time while we tried to figure out what was going on.

ahnowbrowncow

Shlippery wrote: »

Well to be fair the first one is because of the auto spawn where everyone is frozen in place and the planes get to spawn early as well and fly right over (that'll definitely be fixed soon I'd say)!

I'm loving flying at the moment, I think I feel somewhat competent at this stage, or else just playing against people who've never played BF in their lives! Only been harassed by one or two pros.

I like the ferocity of the guns in this compared to BF1. The sound is incredible.

Yes, but the Americans aren't in the game yet. It'll come in time, and it won't be paid DLC. Patience!

It's a fairly big oversight so I'd say it will get fixed soon enough. But both clips show that the bombs are too powerful. Plus AA guns and vehicles can't harm them while you're a sitting duck shooting at planes in an AA gun.

Overall though I'm really enjoying it, it's a return to form. I can see it being lauded as the best Battlefield when the bug fixes, balancing and extra content is rolled out.

Shlippery

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Aircraft are actually really overpowered in this. The bombers anyway. They are really difficult to take down, AA guns only tickle them. They have an option to either increase armour or their payload but because they are extremely resilient without the armour upgrade everyone picks the extra payload.

And their damage output is ridiculous, there's a video on reddit showing a bomber killing 16 people in a single pass.

There's numerous other videos with bombers killing up to 10 people in one bombing pass and bombers going on 100+ killstreaks.

I thought they would have learned their lesson from BF1 but no, they've made bombers even worse.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9wfxwc/this_is_why_dice_really_need_to_change_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9w4y3h/38_bombs_on_the_maxed_out_ju88_is_nuts/

Well to be fair the first one is because of the auto spawn where everyone is frozen in place and the planes get to spawn early as well and fly right over (that'll definitely be fixed soon I'd say)!

I'm loving flying at the moment, I think I feel somewhat competent at this stage, or else just playing against people who've never played BF in their lives! Only been harassed by one or two pros.

I like the ferocity of the guns in this compared to BF1. The sound is incredible.

Panic Stations wrote: »

They don't even have the M1 Garand in the game yet. That's a big disappointment for a WW2 game.

Yes, but the Americans aren't in the game yet. It'll come in time, and it won't be paid DLC. Patience!

Panic Stations

They don't even have the M1 Garand in the game yet. That's a big disappointment for a WW2 game.

Blazer

You need a good pilot with cannons equipped...different story then

Some german lad took great offense at me shooting down his bomber time and time again wishing "i got aids" lol
At least it wasn't cancer

ahnowbrowncow

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

Ok some further thoughts in after about 9 hours of play.

Some things carry over from the beta. Woah is on you who tries to solo in this game. This game needs you to be part of a squad and you better hope they are either competent or at least people you know otherwise expect to be P*ssed at randoms. Previous battlefields did too but this one just demands it more.

I saw a lot of comments saying all classes are useful and I'm going to call bull****. 3 classes are useful. 1 is useless. It's also probably the most popular. Snipers remain worthless in this. At least for now. Perhaps losing constantly will finally drive people to start playing right, but a squad with 2 assault 1 medic 1 support will do so much more then any other squad with 1 sniper. Also squad lead being sniper is sad times. I like to snipe but I havnt in this game at all so far because it's so bloody apparent how useless the role is in playing the objective at the moment.

Continuing on the useless things, aircraft, again useless, they just do not do enough damage to warrant giving up boots on the ground. I'm pretty sure you'll lose the mountain map if you spawn more aircraft then your opponents. It's better to just have 1 player going in a fighter and leave the bombers at home.

Aircraft are actually really overpowered in this. The bombers anyway. They are really difficult to take down, AA guns only tickle them. They have an option to either increase armour or their payload but because they are extremely resilient without the armour upgrade everyone picks the extra payload.

And their damage output is ridiculous, there's a video on reddit showing a bomber killing 16 people in a single pass.

There's numerous other videos with bombers killing up to 10 people in one bombing pass and bombers going on 100+ killstreaks.

I thought they would have learned their lesson from BF1 but no, they've made bombers even worse.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9wfxwc/this_is_why_dice_really_need_to_change_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9w4y3h/38_bombs_on_the_maxed_out_ju88_is_nuts/

Dcully

BeerFarts wrote: »

The new revival animation is really annoying me, I've lost count of the times I've been in cover and because I go to revive a teamplayer it puts me completely out in the open and I get shot. It also takes way too long even as a medic, they need to sort that out because medic is fairly worthless at the moment.

What your seeing now is twice as fast to revive with both medic and non medic as it was in the beta`s.
They have already put work into changing it and speeding it up but its not enough imo, i agree with you it needs more attention.

My other major issue during all beta stages is the attrition system and thankfully its so much better now and actually a decent system now.

FAILSAFE 00

Spear wrote: »

No, that's coming later.

Thats a shame. I thought when they delayed the launch this would make it into the launch window.

Spear

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Have they not added the mechanic/animation for pulling an ally into cover yet? They said they were going to. When it's in the game you'll be able to drag a downed ally to some cover where you can then begin the revival.

No, that's coming later.

FAILSAFE 00

BeerFarts wrote: »

The new revival animation is really annoying me, I've lost count of the times I've been in cover and because I go to revive a teamplayer it puts me completely out in the open and I get shot. It also takes way too long even as a medic, they need to sort that out because medic is fairly worthless at the moment.

Have they not added the mechanic/animation for pulling an ally into cover yet? They said they were going to. When it's in the game you'll be able to drag a downed ally to some cover where you can then begin the revival.

BeerFarts

The new revival animation is really annoying me, I've lost count of the times I've been in cover and because I go to revive a teamplayer it puts me completely out in the open and I get shot. It also takes way too long even as a medic, they need to sort that out because medic is fairly worthless at the moment.

Hellrazer

Just installed this now. Quite impressed so far with the single player.
Thought my old rig would struggle with it (Phenom 2 x6 @ 3.7ghz / r9 270x) but Im getting a solid 60 @1080p on high setting.Looks good enough for me to not do a new build!!!

Calhoun

They have essentially been giving it away with EA crap they are selling id say it will be low soon.

ShadowHearth

I still have ea access until January so decided to try it. After 2h I uninstalled it.

I dont know if it BFs problem or just me not enjoying such tipe of stuff anymore. I still think that BF series peaked with BC2. The sound and the feel of it was just right. Thing is I played it last year again and it was not just pink glasses effect. Core gameplay was still better then any Battlefield that came after it.

Not going to buy it now for sure, but if it drops in price, I will. Something tells me it will be down on price very fast. Maybe not as fast as Battlefront 2.

I can't even say anything particular negative about it, its weird. Its just I did not enjoyed playing it at all. I might got used to way longer times to kill in Fortnite, and in this it feels like you die so fast and dont even habe enough time to react.

Blazer

It looks pretty and runs well on my pc but I just can't get into it.
It just feels boring as hell. Its more like I'm peering in a window watching a guy playing battlefield not like I'm actually in the thick of it myself.
Could be just some of the maps maybe.
BF2/2142 and BC2 are still the gold standard and will be for ever I think...at least until we all get holodecks.

Nijmegen

I have to say, the performance is what has surprised me the most. I'm playing on a ~4 year old machine at this stage, GTX970 vintage with a decent i5 for its time; and it looks and plays really well.

I had been on a PUBG binge for a while and returning to well put together games is refreshing.

The only thing I found immediately jarring about the game was everyone having the same weapons - I bailed out of my German aircraft and landed with a Sten for example. I suspect this wasn't jarring in BF1 because so many weapons were makey uppey, but call me an old fashioned BF1942 man I like my German assault to be running around with an MP40. But hey, you can repair your aircraft midair by holding down X so lets not get too picky!

It's great to see old fashioned conquest and I really prefer the move away from behemoths and back to what seems like a good spawn rate of good old fashioned vehicles and tanks. Again being a BF1942 raised child, I'm not sure how I feel about progression within vehicles etc, such that I can get a faster swiveling tank or whatever vs someone else, but that's the era we live in.

I really like the varied operations - different game modes mixed into each of the map series makes for an engaging play.

All in all a thumbs up for now.

Kiith

Had a few good games there tonight. I'm pretty bad at it, but occasionally get a good run going. Game looks absolutely fantastic, and runs really well (bar some major stuttering at the very start of the game and when i load into a new map).

KilOit

Playing this on ultra settings and was having difficulty being able to pick out enemy so I turned off most of the settings under the basic tab, film grain, lens flare, vignette, chromatic aberration and motion blur to 0.
The game now looks even better imo and my kill count has increased

Kiith

Installing this tonight and will give it a go tomorrow. Been years since i gave a BF game a proper go.

KilOit

Blazer wrote: »

Snipers are extremely useful...if they get out their spotting scopes, spot the enemies etc and provide cover fire for when taking a flag.
If they're just sitting there camping like most of the noobs do then they're a waste of space.

Used spotting scope for assignment and its crazy good, great for points and helping the team