kuro68k wrote: » The British government is going to take it right to the cliff edge and hope that someone else compromises. Of course they have their excuses already lined up if no-one does, only real question is who they will blame.
Shelga wrote: » Yeah I’m reading the UK version of the Sunday Times on my tablet- what a nice line- “the small print is that Ireland is ****ed”- charming. How exactly are we ****ed?
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » https://sluggerotoole.com/2018/11/04/breakthrough-on-the-backstop-claims-the-sunday-times/Wouldn't agree with the GE bit though. Labour and Lib Dems , like everyone's school report , could try harder. An inanimate carbon rod might have been more useful because at least the public would know it wouldn't help.
Mc Love wrote: » Anyone see Andrew Maxwell on politics live. It is hilarioushttps://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1058342177607041024?s=19 And the follow up,https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1058341895515004928?s=19
ancapailldorcha wrote: » Unfortunately, this sort of anti-intellectualism is thriving here and there's never a shortage of token Irish Eurosceptics who think they can make a quick buck. The idea that the Irish aren't "Superfans", whatever that term is meant to mean based on his parents voting No to Lisbon is the sort of material one might see in a parody from years ago and the BBC have put him on so how he can rant about how the EU has treated Ireland terribly because of reasons. Fair play to Maxwell for that followup. He's bang on.
Water John wrote: » Listening to Banks, don't think he could lie straight in bed. Would not answer what co the money originally came from, just plenty whataboutery.
J Mysterio wrote: » I don't know why this Brendan O'Neill (he of Irish peasant stock) gets so much exposure. He is full of shıt and has nothing to back up his pronouncements. He is regularly on Sky News Press Preview and now here he is on BBC's Politics Live. 'The editor of Spiked Online' - who reads this garbage? I'm still gobsmacked that they chose a comedian to speak about Anglo Irish relations on a Politics show? It's literally taking the piss. Maybe they could have chosen Dara O'Brian, he would have loved that. There is no shortage of Irish politicians who would have been happy to discuss this issue on that stupid show. It's just not up to scratch.
J Mysterio wrote: » I don't know why this Brendan O'Neill (he of Irish peasant stock) gets so much exposure. He is full of shıt and has nothing to back up his pronouncements. He is regularly on Sky News Press Preview and now here he is on BBC's Politics Live. 'The editor of Spiked Online' - who reads this garbage? I'm still gobsmacked that they chose a comedian to speak about Anglo Irish relations on a Politics show? It's literally taking the piss. Maybe they could have chosen Dara O'Brian, he would have loved that. There is no shortage of Irish politicians or political analysts/ journalists who would have been happy to discuss this issue on that stupid show. It's just not up to scratch.
Roanmore wrote: » That Brendan O'Neill is so dishonest, said it here many times. Nice and Lisbon were rejected for a myriad of reasons (neutrality, abortion, etc.) but EU expansion would have been way down the list.
lawred2 wrote: » Imagine speaking of peasant stock with no hint of irony...
Water John wrote: » This piece from Carole Cadwalladr as to how Banks has attacked her is worth reading.https://www.theguardian.com/global/commentisfree/2018/nov/03/threats-bullying-and-vindictiveness-how-arron-banks-repels-charges-against-him
Roanmore wrote: » To be fair a comedian can be a lot more honest than a politician would have been, call O'Neill out on his bull****. A politician in there would have just spouted generalities and nobody would have listened.
Roanmore wrote: » Been looking at her twitter feed, she's said she complained to the BBC and Sky News that Banks has been lying about her, got a response from Sky but nothing from the BBC. Also claiming her BBC interview had to be recorded due to an ongoing investigation in to Banks but his interview was allowed go out live. Looking at BBC's twitter you'd swear they grilled him.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » It appears the UK edition of the Times this morning left out crucial lines on the backstop that is included in the Irish version which says a deal is dependent on the UK signing up to a legally binding backstop in the Withdrawal Agreement. Dept of Foreign Affairs are saying there is no deal yet. Horse trading still going on as we speak by the looks of it.
ilovesmybrick wrote: » Well the Irish version left out the Whitehall official saying that Ireland were f**ked, so there's a degree of pandering to national audiences and not providing the full account in case it upsets the apple cart
J Mysterio wrote: » Ok so, Politics panel of: Owen Jones - Guardian columnist Jane Merrick - Political commentator Brendan O'Neill - Editor of Spiked Online Katy Balls - The Spectator. Brought on to discuss Anglo Irish relations: James Maxwell - Irish Comedian It shows the contempt they have for Irish politics, or their lack of seriousness in engaging with it. Like I said before though, in the greater context, it probably was approproate to have an Irish comedian on, it is all such a joke over there.
P_1 wrote: » That sort of snobbery really irritates me. So what if hes a comedian. The English need to hear more mouthy Dubs to knock some sense into them
Rhineshark wrote: » I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the Whitehall official didn't say that to any Irish reporters...
Rhineshark wrote: » I think the "so what" is that many of us still believe in experts and expertise and inviting a comedian on to represent the Irish perspective gives the impression that they were looking for the funny side in the paddies being unaccountable annoyed by the UK screwing around. What could Irish experts possibly have to offer a discussion about Anglo-Irish relations after all? Get a comedian, at least he'll give us a laugh. Admittedly an earful from Dara O'Briain probably would have a better chance of sticking.
ilovesmybrick wrote: » I think it was more an editorial decision. Tim Shipman has the credit for both versions of the article, so I think they may have left out the parts of the full article that wouldn't play well in Ireland, and vice versa in the UK edition.
J Mysterio wrote: » Ok so, Politics panel of: Owen Jones - Guardian columnist Jane Merrick - Political commentator Brendan O'Neill - Editor of Spiked Online Katy Balls - The Spectator. Brought on to discuss Anglo Irish relations: James Maxwell - Irish Comedian .
