Ethan Brief Underdog wrote: » Oh, I entirely accept that Google tracks people in numerous ways, some of which are less than obvious. But someone can still go to an abortion clinic, leave her phone at home, and pay in cash. We still have some semblance of privacy left, if we choose to exercise it. An entirely cashless society, where every single transaction you ever make can be traced back to you, would eradicate much of that privacy. It would be of great benefit to governments, financial institutions, tech companies, Revenue, and law enforcement -- which is why governments and companies relentlessly advocate for it.
Bubbaclaus wrote: » The bank have every right to take gambling into account before lending you hundreds of thousands, they already do that. In the application they will ask you if you gamble and if you lie it's fraud. The wife has every right to cite those lap dances in a divorce court proceeding. Unless you want to withhold evidence? You need to fully disclose everything when getting life insurance anyway, or else you are engaged in fraud. This is basically trying to hide things you are ashamed about or else upset that you can't con the system.
Ethan Brief Underdog wrote: » The bank could well take your penchant for gambling into account when you apply for a mortgage. Your wife, if she files for divorce, can cite those lap dances in court and use them against you. Your life insurance company may be interested in those payments to psychiatrists. There are a great many things that it's legal to do, but that can affect you adversely.
wexie wrote: » Most of the ones you've listed above is already information Google (for example) might have purely based on tracking your online behaviours and your whereabouts. It's not just location tracking they use for phones, it's also the SSID of whatever WiFi you're using to go online. They know where those particular SSIDs are located geographically because the Google cars just happened to record whichever ones they were able to detect. Ever wonder how come when you open Google maps on a laptop or PC it seems to know where you are?
RaichuMGS wrote: » the sooner cash is ceased to be used the better. I always hiss when I enter a shop that has no card machine or a ridiculous extra charge for “under X amount”. I’m also pretty sure I read somewhere that’s illegal.
Gonad wrote: » https://youtu.be/Ra3fv8gl6NE
Bubbaclaus wrote: » Other than buying the illegal drugs I don't see any issues there? Everything else you mentioned is perfectly legal and normal. Are you afraid your bank will laugh at your purchases or something?
Ethan Brief Underdog wrote: » Imagine the vaunted "cashless society" comes about, and there's no option to pay for anything in cash anymore. Want to buy a sex toy? Want to pay for an abortion? Want to buy illegal drugs? Want to pay for a lap dance? Want to gamble on a poker game? Want to pay a psychiatrist? Are you happy for Google, or your credit card company, or your bank, to have a permanent record of these kinds of payments?
Ethan Brief Underdog wrote: » According to CNN: The article also reports that 2017 was the first year when cash transactions accounted for less than half (48%) of all transactions in Germany. Other European countries have far more cashless transactions.
Ethan Brief Underdog wrote: » Imagine the vaunted "cashless society" comes about, and there's no option to pay for anything in cash anymore.
Patww79 wrote: » Well if you're just going to make stuff up. Anyway yeah, we won't agree and each of us thinks the other is taking out of their hole, so what's the point. Just don't add things to my posts when you quote then in future thanks.
Bubbaclaus wrote: » Why do people care if a company knows that you buy your milk in tesco. Seriously?
Shenshen wrote: » Not the full picture for Germany - they have a very well-functioning banking system, and had that for decades. Payment for orders is usually made by bank order. They also had something called an EC card (essentially a debit card) since the mid-80s, and they were accepted in most shops well before any credit cards were. As a consequence, Germans never really saw any benefit in paying money to have a credit card, and extra money in interest. Not so much about some sort of privacy concern.
Germans have not switched to credit and debit cards as quickly as people in other developed economies, preferring instead to use banknotes and coins for their purchases. The average German wallet contains €107 ($132) in cash, according to the Bundesbank. That's one of the highest amounts in Europe, and far more than the roughly €30 ($37) typically found in French and Belgian wallets. Germans told the central bank that there were a few reasons why cash had remained popular for so long.Many said it's a more private way to pay, and they believe it's faster.
Ethan Brief Underdog wrote: » If you're comfortable with large tech companies tracking every shop you visit and everything you purchase, and selling that information on to third parties, you'll be happy enough in a cashless world. Some cultures are still very attached to cash. In Germany, for instance, many shops and restaurants are still cash-only; Aldi and Ikea only began accepting credit cards in 2016. Often, these differences reflect well-founded historical concerns about privacy, surveillance, and the state. Other countries, like Sweden, which have a high level of trust in the state, are eager to go entirely cashless -- but there are millions of Europeans who are not yet ready to acquiesce to ubiquitous tracking of their every transaction.
Wibbs wrote: » You hear talk of AI coming and taking over, I'll bet now if AI is a possibility, then it'll spring forth as an emergent behaviour from these massive entities. An AI that will know practically everything about every man, woman and child on the planet.
erica74 wrote: » I've always been interested in the raktajino myself:cool: it always sounded like a Klingon frappucino to me:pac:
RaichuMGS wrote: » the sooner cash is ceased to be used the better.
Canis Lupus wrote: » It's on their wrist nowadays grandpa
Patww79 wrote: » Where do you think people keep their phones? That's one of the most stupid things I've read on here in a long time. If you're going to be a massive luddite then at least try to form something coherent.
