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After Hours Exit Poll

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ShagNastii

MrMusician18 wrote: »

The story has to be Casey here. That kind of protest vote will be tough to ignore.

The split across the country will be telling on how politicians react. But the genie is out of the bottle.

Unfortunately it will be easy to ignore. Saint Miggeldy has been voted back in and that's all that matters.

The issues highlighted and discussed by Casey, even in the heat of the moment didn't go beyond pushing them under the rug whilst rolling eyes at the "stupid bigot" Casey. There won't be a post mortem on this one and even if there was we know how it will play out. NOT ALL, NOT ALL etc. etc.

The only journalist that has taking their head out of their a*re on the traveller debate has been Pat Kenny for his NT show. When he (upon invite) visited a halting site he really called it black and white. "Why is there rubbish everywhere?", "The council won't come because of violence towards them?", "There has been fueding with rival travellers here?", "Are the kids not in school?" and the rest.

mammajamma

Deleted User wrote: »

trying to spin 21% of the vote as a win in some tragic stuff lads.

higgins with a huge majority is the result, if you have any other take on it you are spinning hard

No. Trying to playdown an upsurge due to stating the meekest of wrong-think is the real tragedy.

Lots of squeaky bums this time around. And much, much more to come.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Movementarian wrote: »

Which just shows the mindsets of what sways voter opinions. A business man who most wouldn't know and who has never expressed any political ambitions comes along and says a few non pc things, has no real platform in terms of policy but still picks up 20% of the vote.

I know, and people are calling MDH a populist? Casey got 20% for the very reason that he mouth-farted some populist sentiment.

Atoms for Peace

Guess I'm a **** now.

no.8

listermint wrote:

If it was up to that 21% we probably all be broke living back under the Catholic church and eating spuds praying to a statue of Dev

Please keep quiet. You want to force your views down our throats.... We get it, you wish to be the alpha/dictator on the thread

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

trying to spin 21% of the vote as a win in some tragic stuff lads.

higgins with a huge majority is the result, if you have any other take on it you are spinning hard

The thing is, the man spoke his mind, not the "correct" thing to do these days apparently, and at least 20% of voters agreed with him.

Not really about the travellers, but the freedom to speak your mind.

Ursus Horribilis

I don't think many people voting for Casey thought it'd make any difference to Michael D romping home. It's a protest vote against the entitlement/enablement culture that's in this country. The indulging of the Margaret Cashs of this world, the travellers' houses in Thurles etc. Mainstream media is not interested in hearing these views and shuts them down. Politicians are no better. I've no doubt Casey's remarks were self-serving but they were a vehicle for people to put their point across.

PauloMN

Have to say I'm delighted to see how well Casey has polled. I gave him my #1 for two reasons - one, his honesty. The rest, aside possibly from Joan Freeman, I felt were spoofers and didn't honestly answer questions put to them about Casey's traveller remarks. Second reason was as a sort of protest vote, to send a message to the likes of FG (whom I've been a long term voter of) that telling people who not to vote for and stifling debate is unacceptable to me and many, many other people.

I don't normally believe in protest voting and usually consider it a wasted vote - it can also backfire in spectacular fashion (see Brexit as prime example of that). However, based on the fact that the Irish presidency is pretty powerless in relative terms, and the likely fact that MDH was gong to be reelected anyway, I decided it was a suitable option this time around.

Even though he won't get elected, I'm happy for him to be getting the support he obviously has. He has struck a chord with people, and contrary to the usual PC claptrap, those people are not all right wing nut jobs, or Trump supporters, or religious freaks. He'll know - and now government will know - that a lot of people are just tired with the walking on eggshells approach when it comes to real issues that need debate, even if it gets difficult to tackle these issues.

Kevin Finnerty

Well that was a monumental waste of time and money.
Change is coming though. I hope I'm there to see it.

Corb_lund

TallGlass wrote: »

I bottled it, went MD after thinking about it all day, I knew he was a safe set of hands, if after 7 years if all that came out over the last week or two that to me is minimal, then I was half thinking to stick it to FG/FF, I'm now a little angry I didn't follow thru with my protest vote, I am a bottler. :mad:

Lol. Sums up most people. Choose dooby the house elf over even a protest vote.

STB.

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Going to be much closer than the rte exit poll forcasts, MDH in mid forties Casey in the thirties,
Liberal rte set panicking all week stuff the ballots

You think.

If you genuinely believe Casey has a prayer then you'll take the 120s on betfair right now.

But you'd be throwing you money away IMO.

I gather that voting numbers are low, just probably not the ones next door to Paddy Powers.

The poll here was indicative of the betting without market though. Casey was 16/1 without MDH. He's now 1/25.

Charles Ingles

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

If it was close they would rig it. If he won they would re run it ie Lisbon treaty.

It's the creating the "racist candidate" hysteria over what were very measured comments, mild compared to what people say over a pint,
Really fed up with RTE liberal agenda ,every broadcaster in rte is a preachy liberal,
But you will find the are well isolated from mass immigration and social problems caused by a small minority of the traveler community, but that small minority are cause choas for rural Ireland,
Liberal 101 do as I say, not as I do

listermint

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The thing is, the man spoke his mind, not the "correct" thing to do these days apparently, and at least 20% of voters agreed with him.

Not really about the travellers, but the freedom to speak your mind.

Horse****e.

The man saw an in. Went for it. He doesn't even believe the stuff he said.

It was a method to stir it up and people trying to make it about being pc are spanners.

Snake

Oil

Salesman

ebbsy

Had Higgins No.1...and that was it.

No interest in expenses , jets etc., he's got to get around without making a fool out of himself or the country.

The others might be good TD's but good presidents ? Not a chance.

[Deleted User]

TallGlass wrote: »

I bottled it, went MD after thinking about it all day, I knew he was a safe set of hands, if after 7 years if all that came out over the last week or two that to me is minimal, then I was half thinking to stick it to FG/FF, I'm now a little angry I didn't follow thru with my protest vote, I am a bottler. :mad:

I think you’ll get your chance come GE time. Casey’s gain in the polls will be the talking point of this election.

[Deleted User]

mammajamma wrote: »

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Jesus lad, take it easy.

Just because someone votes/voted to a different persuasion than yours is no reason to be calling them cúnts.

Chill out.

That's what they think of you. You are an uneducated, hateful fool, or just a plain old c*nt for not thinking "correctly".

This is the mentality that is clinging to this country like gangrene. Time is fast running out for these deluded, elitist, dictatorial people. And they know it. Expect them to become yet further deranged and loose-lipped as their ideology dies off.

Tick tock

do you think that your post quoted above comes across as reasonable? the kind of sentiment or expression of rational thought that youd be proud to put yr name to in real life?

theres a reason that internet discourse lowers to the level that has one poster labelling 21% of the country cúnts, but tbh the way you're happy to lazily froth at the mouth in your response is indicative of the same flaws.

but lookit, higgins in a landslide and enjoy the 1 in 5 vote.

ebbsy

no.8

MJohnston wrote:

Voting for a tax cheat who doesn't give an ounce of a **** about Ireland simply because he slagged off a few people you blame for your own inadequacies. It's more pathetic than the idiots who voted for Brexit because a bunch of inbred Tory toffs conned them into it.

Explain the first line? Does he not pay tax in America? I could be far from correct but assume that is not cheating taxes. Well done Peter Casey on ruffling feathers and exposing the true hateful biggots among the masses

TallGlass

Don't forget folks, the next time around the will be no MDHs, and if Peter Casey is the best then he is going in!

Politicians need to wake up and listen to the people that are putting the graft in and paying there wages each week. We are not at all happy.

haley79

TallGlass wrote: »

I bottled it, went MD after thinking about it all day, I knew he was a safe set of hands, if after 7 years if all that came out over the last week or two that to me is minimal, then I was half thinking to stick it to FG/FF, I'm now a little angry I didn't follow thru with my protest vote, I am a bottler. :mad:

don't blame yourself mate
you are a product of your environment

listermint

Charles Ingles wrote: »

It's the creating the "racist candidate" hysteria over what were very measured comments, mild compared to what people say over a pint,
Really fed up with RTE liberal agenda ,every broadcaster in rte is a preachy liberal,
But you will find the are well isolated from mass immigration and social problems caused by a small minority of the traveler community, but that small minority are cause choas for rural Ireland,
Liberal 101 do as I say, not as I do

Rte liberal agenda...

Wtf.

Last year rte where the FG mouthpiece are FG liberals now ?

Do people even know what they are saying anymore.

Meaningless statements

RandomName2

Deleted User wrote: »

trying to spin 21% of the vote as a win in some tragic stuff lads.

higgins with a huge majority is the result, if you have any other take on it you are spinning hard

If Anti-Austerity Alliance got 20% in an election that would be an amazing result for them, seeing that they generally poll between 1-2%. Same is true of Casey.

Jackman25

MJohnston wrote: »

Are you fúcking serious? How stupid are you? No wait, you voted for Casey, I know the answer already.

Answer the question. Link to me evidence of him being a tax cheat.
Come on now.

TallGlass

RandomName2 wrote: »

If Anti-Austerity Alliance got 20% in an election that would be an amazing result for them, seeing that they generally poll between 1-2%. Same is true of Casey.

AAA, are nutters. If they came out with some real believable stuff they would get somewhere. Plus, they want to tax me even more and give even more of my money away.

listermint

TallGlass wrote: »

Don't forget folks, the next time around the will be no MDHs, and if Peter Casey is the best then he is going in!

Politicians need to wake up and listen to the people that are putting the graft in and paying there wages each week. We are not at all happy.

100% so you'll be canvassing for casey for the Dail then.

You know ... The place where he could put some words into action.

That place he avoided all his life and be won't want to go to ...

Ya?

Will ya ?

MJohnston

mammajamma wrote: »

That's what they think of you. You are an uneducated, hateful fool, or just a plain old c*nt for not thinking "correctly".

This is the mentality that is clinging to this country like gangrene. Time is fast running out for these deluded, elitist, dictatorial people. And they know it. Expect them to become yet further deranged and loose-lipped as their ideology dies off.

Tick tock

Elitist eh? Remind me what your tax exile candidate said about some of the people who have the least in society? Where do you get off claiming other people are being elitist?

There's no more elite group of people than those who look down on others below them, which is what the majority of posters of After Hours have spent the last couple of weeks doing since Casey peeled open his arse cheeks and blew out a few sound bites.

A reminder - Casey voters are literally supporting a man who sat around on his arse on TV and decided which hard-working people are deemed worthy of a few Euros he scraped from the bottom of his shoe. He is a shining symbol of elitism, and you can't start claiming everyone else is now being elitist. You are the elitists.

listermint

MJohnston wrote: »

Elitist eh? Remind me what your tax exile candidate said about some of the people who have the least in society? Where do you get off claiming other people are being elitist?

There's no more elite group of people than those who look down on others below them, which is what the majority of posters of After Hours have spent the last couple of weeks doing since Casey peeled open his arse cheeks and blew out a few sound bites.

A reminder - Casey voters are literally supporting a man who sat around on his arse on TV and decided which hard-working people are deemed worthy of a few Euros he scraped from the bottom of his shoe. He is a shining symbol of elitism, and you can't start claiming everyone else is now being elitist. You are the elitists.

Spot on

TallGlass

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I think you’ll get your chance come GE time. Casey’s gain in the polls will be the talking point of this election.

Been thinking this, I am really going to start looking at the local people around here and what they really do for the place. More so than I do already.

[Deleted User]

listermint wrote: »

I think your the Muppet you know nothing about that man

Nothing at all but want to give him 250k for saying travellers are effectively ****e in a bucket.

Give over with the rationalisation .

Means nothing.

You were taken in by a classic snake oil salesman trope now your sore about it

Never expected him to win but if the exit poll translates correctly a strong message has been sent to the leftie media who only last week wanted him to step down

As for knowing nothing about him
I have met him and spoken with him.

But go ahead now and enlighten us all to exactly how travellers have contributed to Irish society.. Apart from abusing animals and having no value for education. And I could give you lots of examples of both. About time a spade was called a spade.

MrMusician18

ShagNastii wrote: »

Unfortunately it will be easy to ignore. Saint Miggeldy has been voted back in and that's all that matters.

The issues highlighted and discussed by Casey, even in the heat of the moment didn't go beyond pushing them under the rug whilst rolling eyes at the "stupid bigot" Casey. There won't be a post mortem on this one and even if there was we know how it will play out. NOT ALL, NOT ALL etc. etc.

The only journalist that has taking their head out of their a*re on the traveller debate has been Pat Kenny for his NT show. When he (upon invite) visited a halting site he really called is black and white. "Why is there rubbish everywhere?", "The council won't come because of violence towards them?", "There has been fueding with rival travellers here?", "Are the kids no in school?" and the rest.

The reason I don't think they'll be able to get away from this is because we will be having a general election hot on the heels of this, probably next Summer. Dealing with Travellers will form a significant part of the debate.

PC managed to take +19% by taking only a mildly critical line on Travellers. Those that voted for him, this was all that mattered. It's too big to ignore, and it's an open goal for whatever party that moves into that space.

21% translates into 33 dail seats. This is not going away.