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After Hours Presidential Election Poll

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The polls are pretty one sided so far but let's see where the good people of After Hours stand a week out from the election....

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AudreyHepburn

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/presidential-election-2018/president-higgins-still-on-course-to-win-second-presidential-term-poll-37441150.html

For those saying there haven’t been any polls since before Casey’s comments here’s one from the 20th.

MDH still holding the lead and I can’t imagine last nights debate would have changed that.

q85dw7osi4lebg

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/presidential-election-2018/president-higgins-still-on-course-to-win-second-presidential-term-poll-37441150.html

For those saying there haven’t been any polls since before Casey’s comments here’s one from the 20th.

MDH still holding the lead and I can’t imagine last nights debate would have changed that.

The data was harvested a week previous to that

weldoninhio

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/presidential-election-2018/president-higgins-still-on-course-to-win-second-presidential-term-poll-37441150.html

For those saying there haven’t been any polls since before Casey’s comments here’s one from the 20th.

MDH still holding the lead and I can’t imagine last nights debate would have changed that.

“However, the opinion poll was completed last Tuesday – the same day Mr Casey’s comment on Independent.ie’s Floating Voter podcast were published.”

Is it? Yeah? Don’t worry, just blame your staff, that apparently works.

pjohnson

I'm sure Peter Casey will cut costs. He surely wont use the plane for any state visits nor will he go anywhere on this island on anything except a bicycle.

Zubeneschamali

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/presidential-election-2018/president-higgins-still-on-course-to-win-second-presidential-term-poll-37441150.html

Polled on the 16th - not the latest.

Wheeliebin30

Sariah Tall Babe wrote: »

The data was harvested a week previous to that

Lol!

pjohnson

ELM327 wrote: »

A white person cannot be racist against a white person.
NEXT.

You must have a fascinating outlook on what went on in Yugoslavia. Or even how the Brits used to treat the Irish.

Is that just #bantz?

MrMusician18

naughtb4 wrote: »

Sean Gallagher

If he is doing his own yet constantly refers to himself in the third person, he has a serious ego problem

Oh course MDH doesn't do his own Twitter. Apparently the man hasn't got good internet skills.

Fann Linn

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/presidential-election-2018/president-higgins-still-on-course-to-win-second-presidential-term-poll-37441150.html

For those saying there haven’t been any polls since before Casey’s comments here’s one from the 20th.

MDH still holding the lead and I can’t imagine last nights debate would have changed that.

Your own link says the poll was completed the same day Casey opened his gob.

Ozymandius2011

Thejournal has just started a poll and it seems to also show a surge for Casey, though so far over there he's second on 33%, to 47% for MDH so it will come down to transfers if true, and Id say SF transfers are more likely to go to MDH.

q85dw7osi4lebg

http://www.thejournal.ie/presidential-election-2-4302454-Oct2018/

Finally

Fann Linn

Sariah Tall Babe wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/presidential-election-2-4302454-Oct2018/

Finally

Useless. Ye can vote as many times as you like.

MrMusician18

Ozymandius2011 wrote: »

Thejournal has just started a poll and it seems to also show a surge for Casey, though so far over there he's second on 33%, to 47% for MDH so it will come down to transfers if true, and Id say SF transfers are more likely to go to MDH.

If that was the way it pans out, that would be a major wake up call to the establishment.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

I’ll be abstaining. I don’t care which of those shamdazzlers gets elected. I’m not well at the moment and it’s not worth my energy. Will be interesting to see how the AH Peter Casey vote translates to the general populace though. Will he poll highly or is AH a microcosm?

q85dw7osi4lebg

Fann Linn wrote: »

Useless. Ye can vote as many times as you like.

If you can be bothered!

whisky_galore

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

He’s a self proclaimed socialist, rambles on about the homeless etc.

Wouldn’t it be nice for him to cut back on unnecessary spending and set an example?

Aren’t people always crying for politicians to have their wages cut?

Why should he be any different?

He’s a big fat pension at the end of it all, he doesn’t need all these luxuries.

Just another one who has made millions off the taxpayer through the years while preaching the opposite.

A champagne socialist and nothing else.

The much maligned Dev had such a small salary as president, that there were people worried about his standard of living. Of course the pocket-stuffing culture came later with CJ and the mohair suit set and it's been that way ever since.

Patser

Peter Casey lost me last night. He was great last week as a breath of fresh air in such a poor campaign, spoke simple home truths and didn't seem as scripted/managed as others.

But last night he veered too much into just here for the craic. Saying he'll put his Wife on a council to advise him as she's the only one that can get him to do things. Sorry that's just a joke. And when he had garnered so much momentum last week, and could have potentially really challenged, a little bit of preparation, a bit of vision of what you could genuinely do would have worked wonders.

And my big worry now is that people will give him a vote to 'stick it to the establishment' or 'for the craic' thinking he'll never win - and that's how we ended up with Trump, Brexit and Dustin in the Euro vision

kerryjack

Not great last night not one of rte finnest hours putting them in 2 groups what was that about.

tayto lover

Patser wrote: »

Peter Casey lost me last night. He was great last week as a breath of fresh air in such a poor campaign, spoke simple home truths and didn't seem as scripted/managed as others.

But last night he veered too much into just here for the craic. Saying he'll put his Wife on a council to advise him as she's the only one that can get him to do things. Sorry that's just a joke. And when he had garnered so much momentum last week, and could have potentially really challenged, a little bit of preparation, a bit of vision of what you could genuinely do would have worked wonders.

And my big worry now is that people will give him a vote to 'stick it to the establishment' or 'for the craic' thinking he'll never win - and that's how we ended up with Trump, Brexit and Dustin in the Euro vision

You might as well have my dog as President here though. No power.
Casey was great because he spoke his mind unlike the other programmed mice.
He upset the softly softly brigade and that's great.

whisky_galore

tayto lover wrote: »

You might as well have my dog as President here though. No power.
Casey was great because he spoke his mind unlike the other programmed mice.
He upset the softly softly brigade and that's great.

The one thing Casey may do is embolden others to take a more controversial line, unfettered by the pc media. Casey did so and as we can see, he emerged more popular than ever after it, saying things people are thinking but afraid to voice.

Patser

tayto lover wrote: »

You might as well have my dog as President here though. No power.
Casey was great because he spoke his mind unlike the other programmed mice.
He upset the softly softly brigade and that's great.

Your dog, Casey or whoever gets the Park still becomes Irelands official face for next 7 years. And while the office has little true power, ripping into to MDH about expenses while saying he'll put his Wife into an advisory council, because you know, the craic and a laugh and he couldn't really think of anyone else to add to his big plan. He just isn't credible, doesn't have any real plan if he gets it.

It is a pity that someone that is willing to speak freely, but was more coherent and planned didn't stand. Ironically if Gavin Duffy and Seán Gallagher had taken Casey's approach they probably would have been much better at it. Duffy could have put the controversial ideas forward with a lot more thought (and probably boringly long answers to it), Gallagher also showed signs of proper research (even if robotic). If they'd stood apart from herd, but used their better preparation and smoother talking things could have been very interesting.

Instead Casey blew in like a blast of fresh air, but having cleared himself a platform had very few ideas on how to build on it. Just too casual in the end. Too blustery.

strettyend

Can someone explain to me why michael higgins is going for a second term when he is heading toward eighty years of age? It seems ludicrous. Peter casey will be getting my vote no question. He had the balls to say what a lot of people thought regarding travellers but were afraid to say as they would of been regarded as racist. We all know travellers who have a very lavish lifestyle, fabulous houses, top of the range cars/vans and have never worked or paid taxes. Where did this money come from? It it were you or i the revenue would be asking questions would they not? i have been working all my life pay taxes like everyone else but get it hard to make ends meat and drive a ten year old car. Good on you peter casey for having the bottle to stand up and ask challenging questions.

pjohnson

I suppose a lot of people would embrace nepotism. Thats the Irish way jobs for the boys/family

ELM327

pjohnson wrote: »

You must have a fascinating outlook on what went on in Yugoslavia. Or even how the Brits used to treat the Irish.

Is that just #bantz?

Oooooh this should be interesting.
Do please explain how the atrocities committed here by the british were racist.
Remember now, racism involves two different races. Nationality is not a synonym for race.

jjmcclure

The most unelectable of them all is Liadh Ní Riada. My god what a po-faced self righteous pain in the arse.

pjohnson

ELM327 wrote: »

Oooooh this should be interesting.
Do please explain how the atrocities committed here by the british were racist.
Remember now, racism involves two different races. Nationality is not a synonym for race.

Race
noun
- a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
- a population so related.
Anthropology.
- (no longer in technical use) any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics.
an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, especially formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.
- a socially constructed category of identification based on physical characteristics, ancestry, historical affiliation, or shared culture:
- a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.
a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic lineage:
the Slavic race.
any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.:
the Dutch race.

DChancer

tayto lover wrote: »

You might as well have my dog as President here though. No power.
.

That must be some dog, having the right to send most bills passed by the Houses of the Oireachtas to the Supreme Court for express Judicial Review, and what a dog being able to refuse a sitting Taoiseach a dissolution of the Dail!

ELM327

pjohnson wrote: »

Race
noun
- a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
- a population so related.
Anthropology.
- (no longer in technical use) any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics.
an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, especially formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.
- a socially constructed category of identification based on physical characteristics, ancestry, historical affiliation, or shared culture:
- a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.
a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic lineage:
the Slavic race.
any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.:
the Dutch race.

The "dutch race" is not correct, nor is the last highlighted in red.
Genetic commonality and difference from others is the definition of race.
Hence you have European Whites, you have Africans, Middle Easterns, couple of different ones in Asia, African Americans, Native Americans, White Americans (which were mostly shared ancestry with white Europeans) etc.

These are examples of race. Nationality is not Race.

For your info as you seem to have missed the question in my last post:

ELM327 wrote: »

Oooooh this should be interesting.
Do please explain how the atrocities committed here by the british were racist.
Remember now, racism involves two different races. Nationality is not a synonym for race.

ThunbergsAreGo

DChancer wrote: »

That must be some dog, having the right to send most bills passed by the Houses of the Oireachtas to the Supreme Court for express Judicial Review, and what a dog being able to refuse a sitting Taoiseach a dissolution of the Dail!

Dogs can fly planes these days

I think they could manage the above

weldoninhio

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/stop-letting-michael-d-off-lightly-here-are-the-questions-he-should-be-made-to-answer-37205387.html

Decent few questions asked of our president incumbent in here.