flexcon wrote: » Yeah go for any of those networks if its calls and texts you want. Three fall back on the old 02 network for calls and texts in weaker data areas. So i'd say you could be fine with three then.
murpho999 wrote: » ... €40 for 5gb data is terrible value imho?
Dades wrote: » 5GB isn't enough, for sure. I'm on the VF €60 plan and 15GB is fine for me, but I also get Spotify which is a tenner a month I'd be paying otherwise. Eir's equivalent is €55 a month without Spotify. Their €40 plan offers 10GB which would be tight for me (so not an option), as well as needing another €200 up front for the phone. So regardless of network performance, I'm not really being enticed to change.
drunkmonkey wrote: » If it's mobile data speed is your main concern the iPhone doesn't support the High speed data networks some of the providers use.
Spon Farmer wrote: » I don't think I said I wanted calls & texts more than data. If I did say or imply that I did not mean to. What I did mean was that I don't think I need to choose between unlimited calls/texts or unlimited data because either way the required monthly top up would be plenty to cover either option. I'm more interested in speed of mobile data and the price of the plan. Lycramobile seems to be the cheapest and uses the Three network - that is why I wanted to know exactly how much slower it is than speeds Vodafone network? Is the Three network actually very slow or a good speed just not as fast as Vodafone? How long to download an iOS app or a TV episode on Netflix for example?
flexcon wrote: » Not sure that is correct. Could you define what you mean? Are you referring to LTE dual carrier? AFAIk generally, its the other way around. iPhones Support faster LTE bands that Irish networks are not licensed or choose not to rollout.
flexcon wrote: » Ah yes I did misunderstand initially. Three network congestion literally mimics traffic going to work and back again. Goodlook trying to be fast. But between rush hours the network should be grand...... In terms of speeds its all relative. Three ISP does not peer directly with Apples server anyway, so it will be slower to download even if the network locally is actually fast at the time. If we took boards.ie as an example. You probably won't see much difference as its mostly text. However, try and play youtube at full HD on your beautiful new iPhone screen - Not a hope it will work as well on Vodafone or Eir. (Again taking the principle that in general Vodafone has more capacity and less congestion. this isn't everywhere and is an average assumption not absolute) If you are trying to visualize in some way, think of Vodafone as a 4 lane motorway. Plenty space and all traveling at 120kph. Now three is a 2 lane motorway - but still traveling at 100kph. If its just you and your car( boards.ie) than the difference in minimal. If its you and your five friends in 5 other cars (Youtube, netflix downloading in bits) then you now have a reduced service and traffic.
drunkmonkey wrote: » It's not the other way around and hasn't been since the s8 launched it's well know the Samsung s8 and 8+ was quicker last year than any of the iPhone and the s9 and 9+ are quicker than the current crop of iPhones. It's about a 10mbps difference in download speeds. It's correct go check it out.
murpho999 wrote: » But you said it does not support the high speed networks but now it's only 10mbps slower. Sounds like more of your anti Apple posting.
Spon Farmer wrote: » So is Eir mobile somewhere in between Vodafone and Three?
drunkmonkey wrote: » It could be more or less but if you're only getting 12 a drop of 10 is huge. Why when ye hear anything that means an iPhone could be worse than some other device it's straight on the defensive and making it personal. Why is it no possible to have a conversation about the technology rather than throwing your toys out of the pram. If someone is wondering about data speeds before purchasing there's nothing wrong with someone saying that you won't get the fastest possible speeds on that network with an iPhone. Someone mentioned HD Netflix up above that's not even supported in the XR but nobody comes out and says that here to people before they drop close to a grand on well old technology. That's not good for anybody.
flexcon wrote: » Can you help myself and others here - I 'd appreciate if you could send us a link or two to get started at? When you say faster, to sum up - do you mean taking average network speeds, over an average time the s8 and s8+ is on average 10mbps faster?in which country was this? On LTE or HSPDA? Just some more context please as you are talking to someone who is very very confident in what they are saying and has spent years over various jobs touching into this sector with a keen interest also. Willing to discuss here but it would help if you could just add some more context. Maybe we call all learn some more with more helpful info.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Irish network in Ireland over a year ago LTE advanced. S8 was the quickest (new range has them less the XR). Apple have made things worse with their dispute with Qualcomm which have been proven to be considerable faster modems. Apple have dropped Qualcomm completely from this years range. If you want the quickest data speeds you need something with a Qualcomm 345, The iphone would have it only for the dispute. Gigabite LTE is not for handsets here so it's a bit pointless as the iphones or others won't have access to it. It should take pressure of 4G for data though.
murpho999 wrote: » I have an iPhone 8 Plus and obtained LTE Speeds of 80-100Mbps so how can you say Apple is not capable of high speeds?
drunkmonkey wrote: » Nobody said the new iPhones aren't capable of High speeds, there just not capable of the highest speeds. If you'd like to prove otherwise the floor is yours.
drunkmonkey wrote: » 720p is standard definition HD, what I and most people would consider HD is 1080p or Full HD. Just to put it into perspective the S4 had a 1080p screen 5yrs ago. There's no reason the XR shouldn't have a 1080p screen, some people will be disappointed if they don't know exactly what there buying.
drunkmonkey wrote: » The iPhone still doesn't support the High speed networks some providers are using. That statement is still correct. If you want to change it to highest it's still correct. Fact is your phone is not the fastest phone available on Irish networks right at this moment in time. 100mbps is great, it's only a technology were discussing no need to go on the attack again.
murpho999 wrote: » What Irish network provides this? What speed can they obtain?
drunkmonkey wrote: » The iPhone still doesn't support the High speed networks some providers are using. That statement is still correct. If you want to change it to highest it's still correct. Fact is your phone is not the fastest phone available on Irish networks right at this moment in time. 100mbps is great, it's only a technology were discussing no need to go on the attack again. Only one Provider. Three. The iPhone doesn't Support the highest tier speed of 220mbps. It supports 150mbps. drunkmonkey wrote: » As for HD sure what does it matter about quality as long as it fits the definition. Seriously, in this age anyone with the slightest interest in Technology would have to say hold up a minute. It's true to say it doesn't support full HD which by definition is full HD. The iPhone XR does not Support Full HD everyone. The iPhone XR is HD by fact however which was what the original point was. now lets take your way of thinking by example and apply it. the iPhone is HD. Not Full HD. Fact. The Samsung has the fastest theoretical speeds. In real life not attainable currently. Fact. The people deserve to know all might one..........
drunkmonkey wrote: » As for HD sure what does it matter about quality as long as it fits the definition. Seriously, in this age anyone with the slightest interest in Technology would have to say hold up a minute. It's true to say it doesn't support full HD which by definition is full HD.
drunkmonkey wrote: » A Samsung or some other brands will run faster on some Irish networks than an iPhone. I don't think I can be any clearer. This is not a theroy. Looks at research from other countries. Let's see what Murphy come back with when he asks them. You come across that you don't think picture quality matters as long as it fits the definition. I find it bizzare someone would find 720p as acceptable in a €879 phone.
drunkmonkey wrote: » There's only 3 networks, why don't you ask them each on the talk to forums. Your not going to believe me anyway. Tbh, i'd love to see their answers.
