FrancieBrady wrote: » Ben Archibald is much more critical of some traveller behaviour than Collins. Generalising about travellers does not help the debate that is and has to take place within the travelling community. Collins, tends to circle the wagons around issues I think.
tayto lover wrote: » That debate is a long time coming. Hopefully Casey has moved it closer.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Again, if you had done some basic research you would know it is ongoing in the traveller community.
tayto lover wrote: » No but a quote from even one dissenting voice would be nice to read.
Eric Cartman wrote: » even one traveller family where all the kids finished school and no criminal convictions between them and a clean garden and cars legally owned, taxed and insured and nobody claiming welfare and reporting relatives to gardai would be enough. I think I'm asking for wayyy too much.
Royal Legend wrote: » Bit OTT there There are plenty of decent settled travelers all around the country, there are a good few where I live and I have no issue with any of them. Some are even involved in my local community and i would have dialogue with them as neighbours regularly. (Although out of respect, I think i would keep my overall views of some elements of their community to myself, although that is also the same with some of the drug dealing scum lowlifes in my area also, who I also say hello to)
tayto lover wrote: » Results would inform me in a better way.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Would a rise from 2% to 16% be a result? An ongoing result?https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2017/1004/909644-educational-attainment-travellers/ *wait till you hear the whoops of 'Success' and triumph if Peter manages a percentage rise like that in the polls!
Eric Cartman wrote: » in 17 years its risen 14% , still with 84% not finishing school, lets have a parade sure, thats brilliant. If even one estate of non travellers had an 84% rate of kids not finishing the leaving you'd have Tulsa and the local ETB involved as a matter of emergency.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Yes, much much more work to be done. Nobody denying that. But that is a 'result' which is what the poster wanted. Plenty of low attainment in settled deprived areas too.
Eric Cartman wrote: » find me one area where 84% of children don't make it to the leaving cert.
Andrew Beef wrote: » Casey won’t win, but I’m glad he’s staying in the race. He is dead right to tackle the Traveller issue and our welfare culture. In my view, Travellers are not an ethnic minority; it’s simply a way of life that has no place in modern society.
FrancieBrady wrote: » They are and there is legislation in place that confirms it. If you don't like that, campaign to change it. The Aras can do nothing for you on that issue.
road_high wrote: » Just because some stupid whacky legislation defined them as an “ethnic minority” doesn’t mean they actually are. A backslapping exercise for liberals was all that was. They are just Irish citizens nothing more than that.
blanch152 wrote: » Read the RTE report, started off interesting until I got to..... "which was carried out by market research company Behaviour and Attitudes on behalf of a number of Traveller advocacy groups." Until you tell me that you are willing to believe internal political polls carried out by Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, I can't take your support of this poll seriously.
Johnny Dogs wrote: » I don't think casey penned the aricle in question. How can he control if a journalist deliberately wires a misleading article and or headline?
Adamcp898 wrote: » Casey puts some awkward quotes on the record. A tabloid article was written involving said quotes. Won't somebody please think of the children?
Johnny Dogs wrote: » Casey's letter.
gmisk wrote: » Adamcp898 wrote: » Casey puts some awkward quotes on the record. A tabloid article was written involving said quotes. Won't somebody please think of the children? Do you have a link to it? what did he say?
hotmail.com wrote: » There is a lot of people that agree with Casey on his blanket attack on all Travellers, but are they going to vote for him? I doubt it.
An Ciarraioch wrote: » The full article is here - calls Varadkar "a member of an ethnic community himself" and "Indian", looks innocuous enough in print, just a question of whether Varadkar would describe himself in such a manner:https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/presidential-election-2018/shut-your-trap-casey-tells-indian-leo-varadkar-for-trying-to-impact-poll-37439628.html
