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snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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who_me

Flesh Gorden wrote: »

There's something fairly massive within that list, 6th entry down:

Another door of opportunity opened up by Brexit and further chance to distance ourselves from the Brits and their vested interests of control.

Very welcome along with the M28 and relocation of the port, to completely bypass whatever will be left of the uk in the next 25 years.

Good catch, sir!

Nice to see Cork being the hub for power & data interconnects in Ireland!

snotboogie

Canals, boardwalks and houseboats: huge possibilities for new Tivoli

Major housing scheme in Cobh is shot down

GavRedKing

marno21 wrote: »

Strategic Housing Development gone into An Bord Pleanala for 100 apartments across the road from the Elysian

http://www.pleanala.ie/lists/2018/new/NewCasesWeekending%2012-10-2018.pdf

4th down on the list has Supernova as "Change-of-use and extension of the existing 2 storey soft play centre known as SuperNova from the existing leisure use to office use."

I didnt know it was up for sale, I thought they done well out there.

Usually busy for soccer and the play area too.

Shedite27

snotboogie wrote: »

Canals, boardwalks and houseboats: huge possibilities for new Tivoli

“We produced, with the Royal Institute of the Architects, six outline designs with the view to using them as templates. These are concepts, the actual masterplan will have to go through full consultation with the public and all stakeholders,” he said.

Any idea where we can see the designs?

snotboogie

Shedite27 wrote: »

Any idea where we can see the designs?

I don’t, still waiting for the docklands transport plan too.

New crane currently going up at Navigation Square

who_me

snotboogie wrote: »

Canals, boardwalks and houseboats: huge possibilities for new Tivoli

God, I hate these.

Not these specific plans, but these vague, hopeful "this is what could be done on this site" plans. Well, sure. We could have a massive city park there. Or canals. Or a vibrant college campus. Or a compact, ultra-high-rise financial district. Or an enormous statue to Miggledy Higgins. We could have any number of things.

They always get my hopes up and then..... dust gathers.

Captainsatnav

who_me wrote: »

God, I hate these.

Not these specific plans, but these vague, hopeful "this is what could be done on this site" plans. Well, sure. We could have a massive city park there. Or canals. Or a vibrant college campus. Or a compact, ultra-high-rise financial district. Or an enormous statue to Miggledy Higgins. We could have any number of things.

They always get my hopes up and then..... dust gathers.

Hear hear and well said. Dart underground? Light rail for cork?

opus

who_me wrote: »

God, I hate these.

Not these specific plans, but these vague, hopeful "this is what could be done on this site" plans. Well, sure. We could have a massive city park there. Or canals. Or a vibrant college campus. Or a compact, ultra-high-rise financial district. Or an enormous statue to Miggledy Higgins. We could have any number of things.

They always get my hopes up and then..... dust gathers.

Don't understand all this waiting on a plan for the docklands from the council, they've got at least four sitting on the shelf from the past twenty years as far as I can remember, some great earning for consultants anyway!

Was out jogging after work on Fri and see the Anglers Rest has been essentially gutted so will be a while before it's back open. Also saw work going on at the Rendezvous so that might be back in action soon.

Captainsatnav

opus wrote: »

Don't understand all this waiting on a plan for the docklands from the council, they've got at least four sitting on the shelf from the past twenty years as far as I can remember, some great earning for consultants anyway!

Was out jogging after work on Fri and see the Anglers Rest has been essentially gutted so will be a while before it's back open. Also saw work going on at the Rendezvous so that might be back in action soon.

Fair old jog!

JupiterKid

I was strolling around the city centre earlier today and I counted about 12 or more construction cranes on the skyline. I think this is unprecedented in Cork!

kub

JupiterKid wrote:

I was strolling around the city centre earlier today and I counted about 12 or more construction cranes on the skyline. I think this is unprecedented in Cork!

That is a great sign, I once counted 16 during the boom and when the crash came not one.
When there was not one it was very hard to imagine there would be 12 someday.

snotboogie

Rhys Essien wrote: »

@snotboogie

Regarding IKEA.I heard from a person in the know, only the other day, that they are DEFINITELY coming to Cork.

You shouldn’t listen to this friend anymore

who_me

Just went for a quick walk down Alfred St. (behind Penrose Dock site) over the weekend, since I live close by, to view the destruction. Wow, they don't hang about, as ye said. Outside walls still in place but the interior of several buildings have been razed. (Always surprised to see this, would have thought internal walls would have been needed for stability, anyway...)

I didn't even know there's an entrance to Kent station on Railway St. now (I knew about the Horgan's Quay entrance). How great it'd be for someone who works in Penrose Dock/Horgan's Quay to be able to walk out the gates of the station and straight into the office. Alfred St. in general should pick up a lot too, it's always been a bit of a quiet, forgotten street that traffic passes by.

I wonder if anything will happen with Penrose Quay going forward, seems a bit under-utilized now.

snotboogie

Work started on the office element of the events centre site

Shedite27

Nationwide tonight was all about Cork architecture. First half is all about the County Hall, Glucksman Gallery and St.Finbarrs, last 7/8 mns is all about the current and future developments
https://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/nationwide-21/10955429/#_=_

Anastasia_

who_me wrote: »

Just went for a quick walk down Alfred St. (behind Penrose Dock site) over the weekend, since I live close by, to view the destruction. Wow, they don't hang about, as ye said. Outside walls still in place but the interior of several buildings have been razed. (Always surprised to see this, would have thought internal walls would have been needed for stability, anyway...)

I didn't even know there's an entrance to Kent station on Railway St. now (I knew about the Horgan's Quay entrance). How great it'd be for someone who works in Penrose Dock/Horgan's Quay to be able to walk out the gates of the station and straight into the office. Alfred St. in general should pick up a lot too, it's always been a bit of a quiet, forgotten street that traffic passes by.

I wonder if anything will happen with Penrose Quay going forward, seems a bit under-utilized now.

BAM also gave out info yesterday re closing Railway Street next week to facilitate demolition works, so will hopefully be able to see it moving along quickly.

marno21

Company have opened a consultation with ABP about 414 student bed spaces on the Bandon Road/Church of the Immaculate Conception. Was this approved for less beds previously? Anyone with any more details?

http://www.pleanala.ie/lists/2018/new/NewCasesWeekending%2019-10-2018.pdf

Apogee

marno21 wrote: »

Company have opened a consultation with ABP about 414 student bed spaces on the Bandon Road/Church of the Immaculate Conception. Was this approved for less beds previously? Anyone with any more details?

http://www.pleanala.ie/lists/2018/new/NewCasesWeekending%2019-10-2018.pdf

Previously approved for 320 beds:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/student-apartments-permitted-near-corks-lough-despite-opposition-864400.html

deRanged

demolition works proceeding apace on Railway St/Horgans Quay.

who_me

deRanged wrote: »

demolition works proceeding apace on Railway St/Horgans Quay.

If only the new buildings went up as quickly as they come down!

marno21

Apogee wrote: »

Previously approved for 320 beds:
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/student-apartments-permitted-near-corks-lough-despite-opposition-864400.html

New article: https://www.eveningecho.ie/corknews/Developers-looking-to-increase-apartments-at-Lough-development-1158ff57-f98a-4965-b842-1bb40c648f1f-ds

Sometimes you'd think it wasn't badly needed student accomodation beside a college they were building and rather an incinerator.

snotboogie

November Update

Under Construction

Navigation Square: An OCP four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3,000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19' Clearstream to be the anchor client. Phase 2 commenced in Sept 2018.

85-86 South Mall: JCD's 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18' KPMG to be anchor client and Forcepoint taking the remaining space. Fully let out. Tower crane taken down in October.

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Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18' Crane should be coming down in November

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Penrose Dock: JCD's 7 and 9 floor 250,000 sq ft office development in the area bounded by Penrose quay, Railway street, Alfred street and Brian Boru street. Submitted for planning at the end of May, decision due on 19th of July. Further information also requested. Further information supplied and planning granted on the 12th of September. Appeals allowed until the 11th of October. If this is not appealed JCD could be on site by Halloween. On site by the middle of October! Clearance work ongoing as of the end of October. We could see a crane by Christmas.

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Horgan's Quay: A joint venture between BAM and Clarendon featuring over 400,000 sq feet of office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, a 136 bed hotel and 3,000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Appeal withdrawn in April. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in August with the office and apartments commencing in 2019. Probably worth noting that construction was set to start in August but as of the end of September nothing has happened. However the Hotel Clients Oakmount have already named the hotel The Dean so I would really expect serious construction to start in October or November. Serious site clearance began in October but the commencement of work form that was posted, stated a 26 week initial site contract to include all the required demolitions and site preparation work for the main construction. This means that it could be April next year before we see construction on site.

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Student :

Western Road/Muskerry Service Station (190 beds) is nearing completion
Bam's Beamish site (413 beds) has two tower cranes erected and began work on the office element at the end of October
Copley Street (126 beds) should be finished by 2019
Student Hub in UCC has one tower crane up.

Residential

608 units, 496 houses and 112 apartments in Ballinglanna Glanmire, Ground and infrastructure works commenced on that project in Oct 2018, with a sales launch due next spring.
800 units, in the Janeville development in Carrigaline started in April 2017, 100-150 delivered per year. Now on Phase 3 with 111 units sold so far.

Other:

Industrial projects: Johnson & Johnson (biggest construction project in Cork), MSD, Eli Lilly (all above 100 million).
Container Terminal for the Port of Cork: €80 million container terminal for the Port of Cork in Ringaskiddy. will initially offer a 360m with 13m depth to allow larger ships to berth at Ringaskiddy. The development includes the construction of a 13.5-hectare terminal and associated buildings as well as two ship-to-shore gantry cranes and container handling equipment. It is anticipated that it will become operational by 2020.

There are currently 5 all listed above.

Planning/Appealed

Mixed Use:

Sullivan's Quay: BAM's 12 storey, 180 bed, 47 metre, 4 star Hotel with 6 storey 120,000sq ft office space. Planning granted and immediately appealed. It is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. Full planning granted on June 29th. No start date for construction. Now three months with planning and little to no construction activity. Not time to get worried but one to keep an eye on. Strong rumours that this will not start until the event centre does. So expect a delay of at least 6 months.

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Office:

The Prism: Time Square Construction's 15 storey, 70 metre, 60,000 sq ft office development on the triangle site on Clontarf Street. Planning lodged in the middle of May and a decision is due on the 10th of July. An Taisce objected on the 22nd of June. Further information requested on planning, however height doesn't seem to be an issue. Further information supplied on September the 17th a decision is due on the 8th of October. Planning approved, the mysterious O'Sullivan brothers are set "to comment" if this passes the appeal period.... An Taisce very likely to appeal, if they don't this has been given a tentative start date of Q2 2019.

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City Gate Plaza: JCD submitted for planning permission for the construction of an office development at the former Ma/Comm Site. The proposed development includes two office buildings; Block A will be four floors Block B will be three floors over ground floor with terraces. The proposed development also includes a ground floor café and additional car parking. Decision due 28th of August. Planning has been resubmitted and a new decision is due on the 23rd of October. Further information requested.

Hotel:

Parnell Place Hotel: 7flr, 165 bed hotel on Parnell Place and Deane Street. Submitted on Aug 6th, objections from residents on the 10th of Sept. Planning decision was due on the 26th of Sept. Further information requested.

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Morrison's Island Hostel: 192-bed hostel. The development will include the demolition of a currently vacant building on the site after planning was granted to applicant Eoin Sheehan. Planning granted on the 4th of September.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No appeals and got full permission in April. Construction on the M boutique hotel to start sometime in 2019 and the Metropole will start once the M is completed. I have a bad feeling about this one, we are now 6 months since full planning and no movement. I wouldn't be surprised to see this go the way of Merchants Quay.

MacCurtain Street/York Street Hotel: 8 floor 73 bed hotel. Planning granted in March, appealed soon after and withdrawn at the end of April. Construction to start before the end of the year. Again nothing on this at all for 6 months.

Retail:

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, appealed with a decision due soon. (If somebody knows the date it would be great). No update on when the decision is due, again if somebody knows when this is due i'd love to hear. As of the end of July there is bizarrely still no update. Planning due on the 12th of September but has been indefinitely delayed

Residential:

Jacobs Island Apartments: McCarthy Properties/Montip Horizon's 413 apartments across a couple of blocks ranging in size from 6 storeys to 9 storeys and one landmark 82.8m and 25 floor tower! This would be the tallest building in the state if constructed. Submitted for Planning with a decision due on October 10th. Planning permission granted and McCarthy Properties are now are "now engaging with our design team and development partners to bring forward the development as granted".

446 units, 259 houses and 182 apartments in Carr's Hill Douglas in fast track strategic planning
310 units in Cobh rejected in Oct 2019
203 units, 50 houses, 153 apartments on the Nemo site in Douglas approved in May
200 on the Good Shepard site
180 units, 164 houses and 10 apartments in Glounthaune

Entertainment

Cork Events Centre: BAM's 6,000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Construction put back to Q1 2019 at the earliest pending new planning permission. Quite a lot of waffle in July but ultimately nothing happened. Planning submitted on Aug 10th with a decision due on October 4th. An taisce have objected and will almost certainly appeal if planning is granted. There is also the not so small hurdle of central government funding. Expect this to rumble into the new year.... More information requested at the start of October. Lets see if BAM respond before the new year...

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Student accommodation:

The old Crows Nest site (250 beds) got planning in March for 10 and 8 storey student accommodation and should hopefully start at some stage this year, UCC expect it open for Sept 2020.

The Square Deal (228 beds) appeal was withdrawn and it now has full planning permission.
Farranlea Road (145 beds) Has full planning permission as of July 2018
Kelleher Tyres site on Victoria Cross Rd (124 beds) and their 5 storey apartment block were asked for further information, decision due on the 7th of August. Further information was requested in August
O’Riordans Joinery (322 beds) at the Lough was due for decision on the 24th of May but I've heard nothing? Permission granted on the 25th of Aug 2018. Developers have gone back to ABP at the end of Oct 2018 asking to increase beds to 418

Infrastructure:

N8/N25/N40 Dunkettle Interchange: Tender for this project has been awarded to Sisk. Preliminary works by the contractor will begin on site in Q4 2018 with full construction in Q1 2019. The scheme is expected to take 3/4 years to complete due to the complex traffic management involved.

M20 Cork-Limerick: This tender process for the design and planning of this scheme went out in April with route selection and initial design expected to begin in late 2018/early 2019. The Department of Public Expenditure and Reform have announced in Sept that this scheme is expected to start in 2021 and open in 2025, however this appears ambitious.

N22 Macroom-Ballyvourney: The prequal stage of this is now complete with invitations to tender being sent out in July 2018. At present, a tender award is expected (but not confirmed) in mid 2019 with a start soon after. Completion is expected to take 3 years.

N25 Carrigtwohill-Midleton: This project is included in the National Development Plan having been suspended in 2011. The project has entered the pre-appraisal stage along with 14 other schemes nationwide under a TII framework. This scheme may be one of the first to go to construction as it's a small scheme and pays large dividends for low upfront cost.

M28 Cork-Ringaskiddy: This project was approved in full by An Bord Pleanala in July 2018, and Cork County Council intend to begin land purchase and issue tenders for advance works in late 2018. However, a local militant anti-motorway group in Rochestown intend to seek a judicial review on the project, which in their belief will lead to the destruction of their community and widespread health issues due to noise and air pollution, although their solution is to route the motorway through Ballinhassig instead which would add around €400m to the cost of the project and add upto 25km of a round trip for vehicles. Judicial review was awarded in September 2018, set a nominal return date to court of 4th October 2018, but this is unlikely to be the start of the hearing as the plantiff & defendant will need time to prepare their cases. Most likely early next year before the hearing commences but we'll see what fast tracked means in the high court.

M40 Motorway Reclassification and ITS Upgrade: TII & Cork County Council are currently engaged with consultants on this which would see motorway regulations being applied to the N40 and ITS equipment ("smart motorway" equipment) including display VMSs being installed on the length of the M40 and approach roads such as the N27 and N71. The study is ongoing with phased implementation expected on an as of yet unknown timescale. Enabling works including communication ducting will be carried out in Q4 2018.

M40 North Ring Road East: This project was included in the National Development Plan and will be reactivated if there is a requirement to connect the M20 to the motorway network around Cork. The road remains a priority for people on the Northside (including Apple) but not to central Government.

R624 Cobh Road dualling: Cork County Council are applying to DTTAS to have this road upgraded to a national road and a portion of dual carriageway built along its length which will involve the construction of a 2nd dual carraigeway bridge onto Great Island. The project will be initially appraised under DTTAS new appraisal guidelines, with no timescale yet for delivery.

In Limbo

Public:
Tramore Valley Park: Despite being mostly completed years ago the park remains in limbo with regard to an opening date. A few months ago Ann Doherty, chief executive of Cork City Council, said that the plan was to have the amenity open in ‘August or September.’ Now pushed back to 2019 or 2020, depending on funding. In Oct 2018 we got a new opening date of May 2019

Marina Park: Under construction with first phase to open in Q1 2019. I'm very sceptical. As of end of Oct 2018, nothing happening on site

N22 Macroom-Ovens (bypassing Lissarda and Ovens), N25 Midleton-Youghal (bypassing Lakeview Roundabout, Castlemartyr and Killeagh, M40 North Ring Road West and N71 dualling all remain suspended.

Retail:
Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. Planning resubmitted and a decision due on the 23rd of August. Planning granted and the site was put up for sale. We won't see anything for years on this now

Penny's Patrick Street: In Summer 2018 Lawrence Owens of the CBA said “This planning process has been going on for a long time,” “When it happens it will transform the area, and bring vibrancy in terms of the size and scale of the project. We are just hoping that this development, which has been mooted for two to three years, can happen sooner rather than later.” Don't hold your breath!

Merchants Quay: Has had planning permission since July 2015.The last article I found on it was from 2017 and said: It is understood that work won't begin until early next year to minimise disruption to shoppers over the coming Christmas shopping period, though sources close to the development are confident that the work will be finished by late 2018.

Ikea: Announced as a certainty for Carrigtwohill by The Examiner late last year. Ikea themselves poured some water over it a few months later but confirmed they are looking for a site in Cork. Nothing since. Decathalon rumoured to also want space in Carrigtwohill. Given the heave in Oct 2018, won't happen now, will remove next month.

Office:
OCP's Anderson Quay (150,000 ft2/ 5 stories) Has had full planning since sometime in 2016. No updates in the last few years. Perhaps if The Prism was to go ahead we could see something at Anderson Quay? It could possibly be developed in conjunction with the smaller phase two of OCP's Navigation Square?

Stone Work Properties' Camden Quay (65,000 sq ft/ 5 stories): Demolition work finished in Jan 2017 with Stone Work claiming "that once demolition was complete, construction would take just 12 months"

Watfore Ltd's Trinity Quarter (240,000 sq ft/5 stories): Has had planning since 2015 with very little news since. The last I can find of it was a March 2015 article which said: "There was confirmation that a €50m six-storey office block which has planning permission on the former Brooks Haughton site on Copley St, South Terrace, is going ahead within months."

All three office developments were mentioned in this article from August 2018.

Student Accommodation:
Gainstar Limited Partnership's Coca-Cola site (484 beds) on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened?

Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road (344 beds) has had planning for two years.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale in May. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity. Rumored to be a residential development with over 1,000 apartments. Sold to Glenveagh in June for over 15 million.

Transportation: A Cork light rail and/or BRT system got vague mentions in Ireland 2040 but its rumoured something more concrete will be announced at the end of the summer. Now pushed back to "sometime in October" with much more vague mentions of LRT and BRT.
Bus connects was allocated 200 million in funding in the 2040 plan.
The Eastern Gateway Bridge remains a concept

Going forward:

What to watch for in November:

8th of November: The Prism last date of appeals
Sometime in Nov: Docklands Transport Plan, finally???
Sometime in Nov: Victoria Hotel Planning Decision
Sometime in Nov: Some student accommodation, most likely the Crows Nest

Updated best case schedule:

Q3 2018: Navigation Sq phase 2
Q4 2018: Horgan's Quay, Crows Nest, Square Deal, York Street Hotel, Victoria Cross Student, Penrose Dock
Q1 2019: Events Centre, Dunkettle, The M, Jacobs Island, City Gate Plaza, Parnell Place Hotel, Sullivan's Quay
Q2 2019: Victoria Hotel, The Prism

6 of the 16 developments are over 9 storeys tall (Horgan's Quay, Sullivan's Quay, Crow's Nest, The Prism, Jacobs Island and Penrose Docks) with Jacobs Island having two buildings over 9 stories, currently there are only two buildings in Cork over 9 storeys (The Elyssian and the County Hall). One would be the tallest in the state, another would make the top 5 in the state and another would make the top 15. These developments represent a potential seismic shift in the cityscape.

Obviously there is no way all 16 will even start, nevermind over this timeframe.

blindsider

Really appreciate all the work involved in updating these - thanks!!!

who_me

blindsider wrote: »

Really appreciate all the work involved in updating these - thanks!!!

Screw that - he hasn't posted anything in an hour!

How about now? Is anything finished now? ......Now?

snotboogie

who_me wrote: »

blindsider wrote: »

Really appreciate all the work involved in updating these - thanks!!!

Screw that - he hasn't posted anything in an hour!

How about now? Is anything finished now? ......Now?

I think i'll drop back to once a quarter next year

Captainsatnav

snotboogie wrote: »

I think i'll drop back to once a quarter next year

You'll do no such thing. In fact I want you to do weekly updates. Of a Thursday lunchtime.

snotboogie

Captainsatnav wrote: »

snotboogie wrote: »

I think i'll drop back to once a quarter next year

You'll do no such thing. In fact I want you to do weekly updates. Of a Thursday lunchtime.

no.8

Excellent post Snotboogie.

However one striking issue I noticed (as a blow-in from another county), is the absolute lack of public transportation infrastructure foreseen for the region. Having lived in several cities in a number of countries, I have to say the Cork city area is poorly served in terms of local transport. Essentially, we've gone backwards. A silver lining would be the improved utilisation of the commuter railway line from Kent to Midleton/Cobh with the addition of at least Tivoli train station (together with the gateway bridge). Transport to the airport needs to be improved as well with more frequent buses.

Other than that, it's looking up for Cork.

marno21

no.8 wrote: »

Excellent post Snotboogie.

However one striking issue I noticed (as a blow-in from another county), is the absolute lack of public transportation infrastructure foreseen for the region. Having lived in several cities in a number of countries, I have to say the Cork city area is poorly served in terms of local transport. Essentially, we've gone backwards. A silver lining would be the improved utilisation of the commuter railway line from Kent to Midleton/Cobh with the addition of at least Tivoli train station (together with the gateway bridge). Transport to the airport needs to be improved as well with more frequent buses.

Other than that, it's looking up for Cork.

The NTA are finalising a Cork Transport Strategy (I believe a draft will be published for public consutlation shortly), similar to Dublin's one which is available here: https://www.nationaltransport.ie/planning-policy/greater-dublin-areatransport-strategy-2016-2035/

This will be a long term multi year strategy for developing public transport, as there is currently none in Cork.

Apogee

marno21 wrote: »

New article: https://www.eveningecho.ie/corknews/Developers-looking-to-increase-apartments-at-Lough-development-1158ff57-f98a-4965-b842-1bb40c648f1f-ds

Sometimes you'd think it wasn't badly needed student accomodation beside a college they were building and rather an incinerator.

Development Description:Permission for the demolition and site clearance of an existing joinery factory and all ancillary structures.
Development Address:O' Riordan's Joinery, Bandon Road, Cork
Applicant name: Lyonshall (Bandon Road) Ltd.

http://planning.corkcity.ie/AppFileRefDetails/1838111/0