Jameswhalley wrote: » Varadkar went a step too far basically telling people which way to vote
jay0109 wrote: » The thing is, Casey had nothing to retract. He's entitled to question the awarding of ethnic status to Travellers. It's a valid argument.
jay0109 wrote: » That's true but the cries of racist the last few days and the attempts to shut down any debate on Travellers shows that while the Catholic church may be as good as gone, we have a new orthodoxy calling the shots today and woe betide anyone who disagrees with it
Quentin Purple Bellboy wrote: » Yes, it's amazing how some people who think they're great liberals are often the most aggressive at shouting down and insulting anyone who dares to say anything that goes against their beliefs or is not considered by them to be PC.
Johnny Dogs wrote: » Indeed. Yet the various threads about your woman cash had a very resonating sweeping slur bang off it, many of the most vocal posters being the same ones who are the first into a thread criticising FG or one of its policies to offer unequivocall defence of same, and proudly announce their voting preferences (being FG) Don't take my word for it, check the threads out yourself. Boards confuses the shyte out of me at times.
Hurrache wrote: » I don't buy into this whole liberal agenda nonsense. But I do think the media, published and aired, in their rush to condemn and accuse him of being racist, are actually creating the atmosphere for someone with a far right agenda to step in and get some reasonable numbers. Many of the commentators I've heard have said that we shouldn't even be talking about such things, as if it's an idea that shouldn't even be entertained. This will have some people saying hang on, we feel this is a valid issue to be discussed by our representatives, yet they're all claiming we shouldn't, or don't, have such worries. So once someone willing to bring this up, regardless of their other policies, will become attractive.
B0jangles wrote: » Casey'll probably pop back up in a couple of days to say that he really really was going to withdraw but the flood of support he's received from ordinary decent people has convinced him that it's his Moral Duty to stay in the race. Obvious Chancer is Obvious.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Well whether Casey enjoys a significant bounce in the polls in the wake of his intervention will be a test of this, won't it?
Eric Cartman wrote: » Casey "I dont want people to elect me under the basis of one statement" I like how he realises that its literally the one thing going for him
Adamcp898 wrote: » I confess that I haven't been out and about taking the temperature of the populace, but it feels a bit like there's a lot more people wringing their hands over the possibility that Casey's comments may have resonated with a few than there are actual people out there suddenly pumping their fists in support of them. I could be wrong but I wouldn't be taking a message board as an accurate representation of public opinion either. And then there's a few more who, willfully or not, are pretending that it's a conversation about the specifics of ethnic characterisation and not about a broader issue.
walshb wrote: » Casey needs to step down... Cannot have his views tarnishing a section of society like this, whether he speaks some truth or not. Not all travelers are "bad" or "unruly" people. His comments are dangerous.....and for a man running for the office of the President they are bang out of order. Airing them so publicly?:rolleyes: We all have views and opinions about this that and the other, but people need to show restraint at times. They need to show diplomacy and decorum and decency...
Hurrache wrote: » walshb wrote: » Casey needs to step down... Cannot have his views tarnishing a section of society like this, whether he speaks some truth or not. Not all travelers are "bad" or "unruly" people. His comments are dangerous.....and for a man running for the office of the President they are bang out of order. Airing them so publicly?:rolleyes: We all have views and opinions about this that and the other, but people need to show restraint at times. They need to show diplomacy and decorum and decency... What's dangerous is saying we shouldn't talk about this, disregarding for now his clumsy approach. If gives credence to far right politics if it's not allowed to be debated in 'mainstream' media or politics.
Hurrache wrote: » What's dangerous is saying we shouldn't talk about this, disregarding for now his clumsy approach. If gives credence to far right politics if it's not allowed to be debated in 'mainstream' media or politics.
RandomName2 wrote: » It really seems that Varadkar is acting outside of his mandate to say that the public should specifically not vote for Casey in the presidential contest.https://www.joe.ie/news/leo-varadkar-heavily-critical-peter-caseys-comments-travellers-644877
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Even if Casey does suspend his campaign, his name will still be on the ballot paper on election day. It obviously won`t happen but if, by some miracle, he were to be elected I wonder would he decline the Presidency considering he never expected to win in the first place.
walshb wrote: » He tarnished a whole section of society. That is absolutely reckless, wrong and dangerous....end of.
Hurrache wrote: » disregarding for now his clumsy approach.
jay0109 wrote: » And not a peep in the media about it! Way outside his remit to be talking like that
Hurrache wrote: » As I said You literally just read it in the media.
RandomName2 wrote: » It really seems that Varadkar is acting outside of his mandate to say that the public should specifically not vote for Casey in the presidential contest.
seamus wrote: » How so? Is it not typical that any politician or TD will support/criticise presidential candidates? There have been enough attempts from backbench TDs to have a go at Michael D - why are you trying to censor Varadkar?
touts wrote: » Disappointed but not surprised that Casey feels he is being forced out of the race. There is no support for anyone right of center in the Liberal Leftist Tyranny that Ireland has become. Anyone who speaks the truth on topics such as travellers finds themselves slandered and villified by the Dublin media and political elite. I haven't heard a single real person who doesn't agree 100% with his stance on travellers but if you listened only to the media you would think the nation was against him. Honest people like Casey need protection and support. Steve Bannon may be an odious toad but I am becoming more and more convinced that we need his European "movement" to set up here ASAP.
