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Go-Ahead Dublin City Routes - Updates and Discussion

Stephen15

So since the last thread on this got closed and dosen't appear to be reopening any time soon. Heres a new one for you.

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Seems Go Ahead have zero chance of parking busses at the harbour so.

end of the road

soundman45 wrote: »

Seems Go Ahead have zero chance of parking busses at the harbour so.

agreed.

dublinman1990

Two of the large bus stop heads with the generic blue bus signs near the junction & traffic lights of Monkstown Avenue are still not updated with the 63A marked on them. They both have basic A4 paper timetables from The other bus stops on Monkstown Avenue & Monkstown Farm also all have the basic A4 paper timetables for the 63/63A on them from the NTA.

There were a lot of the newer/transferred GAI double deckers going through Monkstown Farm this morning. No ex DB GT's yet though. One of the newer buses was doing some driver training with other GAI staff beside the driver on the way to Dun Laoghaire.

Does anyone know if the new streetlites are meant to be on that route soon?

Stephen15

dublinman1990 wrote: »

Two of the large bus stop heads with the generic blue bus signs near the junction & traffic lights of Monkstown Avenue are still not updated with the 63A marked on them. They both have basic A4 paper timetables from The other bus stops on Monkstown Avenue & Monkstown Farm also all have the basic A4 paper timetables for the 63/63A on them from the NTA.

There were a lot of the newer/transferred GAI double deckers going through Monkstown Farm this morning. No ex DB GT's yet though. One of the newer buses was doing some driver training with other GAI staff beside the driver on the way to Dun Laoghaire.

Does anyone know if the new streetlites are meant to be on that route soon?

I think the timetables may be updated once GAI start operating the 184, 185 and 111 they are using the old and temporary ones in the meantime as some stops are shared between the routes which have yet to transfer and ones which have already transferred. It's a guess and I hope it's right and those temporary looking timetables aren't here to stay.

The Streetlites are due to enter service on the 111, 184 and 185 at the weekend. I don't know if they'll be on the 63 maybe after more routes transfer over. The 63 seems to be quite busy lately perhaps even justifying the dd at times.

belfast stephen

Does anyone know if and where you can get paper copies of the Timetables for the Go Ahead routes

Stephen15

belfast stephen wrote: »

Does anyone know if and where you can get paper copies of the Timetables for the Go Ahead routes

I doubt there's a huge demand for them

belfast stephen

That maybe the case but always good to be able to have a paper copy of the timetable

punisher5112

belfast stephen wrote: »

That maybe the case but always good to be able to have a paper copy of the timetable

Print them off yourself.

I would be very surprised if they have any as they have no premises where the public can go.

vectorvictor

punisher5112 wrote: »

Print them off yourself.

I would be very surprised if they have any as they have no premises where the public can go.

Printed A5 booklet style timetables have been door dropped to alot of the local areas on routes. I'm sure an email to the customer comment address will yield some

KD345

vectorvictor wrote: »

Printed A5 booklet style timetables have been door dropped to alot of the local areas on routes. I'm sure an email to the customer comment address will yield some

Can anyone confirm if TFI has carried out a similar leaflet drop for the timetable changes on Dublin Bus routes?

Stephen15

punisher5112 wrote: »

Print them off yourself.

I would be very surprised if they have any as they have no premises where the public can go.

NTA head office on Harcourt Street is open to the public. They'd be the ones responsible for that kind of thing not Go-Ahead.

punisher5112

Stephen15 wrote: »

NTA head office on Harcourt Street is open to the public. They'd be the ones responsible for that kind of thing not Go-Ahead.

Well db have it all at their head office but saying that I would guess they no longer have time table for routes that are gone.

Stephen15

punisher5112 wrote: »

Well db have it all at their head office but saying that I would guess they no longer have time table for routes that are gone.

Go-Ahead operated buses are purely a matter for the NTA not Go-Ahead themselves. DB keep their own fare revenue GAI do not.

ax586

rx8 wrote: »

Apparently, the NTA overlooked another very important item.... THE FAREBOX MONEY.
GAI are not obliged to count or pass it on to the NTA, as it's not seemingly in their contract. Sitting in a corner in bags in Ballymount, awaiting collection. Whenever the NTA gets around to it.

Also, the issue of DB looking after the lost property is an absolute joke. WTF are they smoking in O'Connell St. They say they can't afford to turn down the money they're being paid to collect it.

That’s a load of pony..I see G4S going into Ballymount every second day collecting fares

dublinman1990

I just got an email today about the November issue of Buses Magazine. It includes a brand new article about Go-Ahead Ireland in Ballymount and plans for further expansion across Ireland.

ON A MISSION
In its second major bus venture beyond the UK, Go-Ahead Group has started operating the first of 30 franchised routes in the Dublin area and has ambitions of doing much more across Ireland.

Stephen15

dublinman1990 wrote: »

I just got an email today about the November issue of Buses Magazine. It includes a brand new article about Go-Ahead Ireland in Ballymount and plans for further expansion across Ireland.

The Wright eclipse 3 single decker on the front page there is what the NTA probably should have gone for instead of the Streetlites.

CramCycle

I seen a streetlite in Bray the other day, about 930am turning left down Florence road, presume it was a practice run. Not sure of the livery though as I was focused on my own use of the road.

belfast stephen

vectorvictor wrote: »

punisher5112 wrote: »

Print them off yourself.

I would be very surprised if they have any as they have no premises where the public can go.

Printed A5 booklet style timetables have been door dropped to alot of the local areas on routes. I'm sure an email to the customer comment address will yield some

I dropped Go Ahead an E-mail and they are going to post some timetables out to me

Stephen15

Another thing I have noticed on GAI buses is signs mentioning a €100 penalty fare for passengers who do not pay either the fare or the correct fare. How is this possible though as GAI or the NTA have yet to hire any revenue protection officers?

dublinman1990

Stephen15 wrote: »

Another thing I have noticed on GAI buses is signs mentioning a €100 penalty fare for passengers who do not pay either the fare or the correct fare. How is this possible though as GAI or the NTA have yet to hire any revenue protection officers?

That penalty fare is applied for invalid tickets on Dublin Bus. Was there any GAI branding displayed on these signs?

john boye

I've noticed many GAI vehicles don't have any GAI branding on the exterior and none seem to have any legal details (company name and address etc) or capacity and weight limits, aren't they legal requirements?

tabbey

Presumably the NTA as owner, considers itself above the law.
Not surprising considering that the minister himself makes representations to NTA, as though he was a mere citizen.

ax586

john boye wrote: »

I've noticed many GAI vehicles don't have any GAI branding on the exterior and none seem to have any legal details (company name and address etc) or capacity and weight limits, aren't they legal requirements?

There is it’s on the left hand side right behind the front door and the Go-Ahead is on that side aswel

ax586

Stephen15 wrote: »

Another thing I have noticed on GAI buses is signs mentioning a €100 penalty fare for passengers who do not pay either the fare or the correct fare. How is this possible though as GAI or the NTA have yet to hire any revenue protection officers?

GAI are in the process of hiring revenue officers

john boye

ax586 wrote: »

There is it’s on the left hand side right behind the front door and the Go-Ahead is on that side aswel

Ah OK, I was looking in the wrong place!

Stephen15

ax586 wrote: »

GAI are in the process of hiring revenue officers

Not advertised on their website. I hope they do as I'd consider applying myself although Ballymount is a bit out of the way for me as I'm looking for a start in the transport industry.

ax586

Stephen15 wrote: »

Not advertised on their website. I hope they do as I'd consider applying myself although Ballymount is a bit out of the way for me as I'm looking for a start in the transport industry.

One of the managers said they are..some drivers are interested in it and said it be advertised soon

SG317

For those that were giving Dublin Bus an extremely hard time, for not posting the transfer of routes 45A, 59, 63 and 75, until the second day of the routes being operated by Go Ahead. Dublin Bus has announced in advance that routes 111, 184 and 185 will be operated by Go Ahead from tomorrow, they have even posted a picture of Go Ahead's logo. Interestingly enough though those same people that constantly blame Dublin Bus for just about everything eventhough it's not Dublin Bus's fault, I don't find them here now praising Dublin Bus for this move. Especially considering they have even mentioned there will be timetable changes. Maybe it just doesn't suit some people's anti-Dublin Bus agenda. Sorry for the rant, it is just frustrating how Dublin Bus is given such a hard time by some people and held to some ridiculously high standards compared to other operators and transport organisations.

MJohnston

SG317 wrote: »

For those that were giving Dublin Bus an extremely hard time, for not posting the transfer of routes 45A, 59, 63 and 75, until the second day of the routes being operated by Go Ahead. Dublin Bus has announced in advance that routes 111, 184 and 185 will be operated by Go Ahead from tomorrow, they have even posted a picture of Go Ahead's logo. Interestingly enough though those same people that constantly blame Dublin Bus for just about everything eventhough it's not Dublin Bus's fault, I don't find them here now praising Dublin Bus for this move. Especially considering they have even mentioned there will be timetable changes. Maybe it just doesn't suit some people's anti-Dublin Bus agenda. Sorry for the rant, it is just frustrating how Dublin Bus is given such a hard time by some people and held to some ridiculously high standards compared to other operators and transport organisations.

I don't really remember this complaint in this thread, tbh.

Stephen15

SG317 wrote: »

For those that were giving Dublin Bus an extremely hard time, for not posting the transfer of routes 45A, 59, 63 and 75, until the second day of the routes being operated by Go Ahead. Dublin Bus has announced in advance that routes 111, 184 and 185 will be operated by Go Ahead from tomorrow, they have even posted a picture of Go Ahead's logo. Interestingly enough though those same people that constantly blame Dublin Bus for just about everything eventhough it's not Dublin Bus's fault, I don't find them here now praising Dublin Bus for this move. Especially considering they have even mentioned there will be timetable changes. Maybe it just doesn't suit some people's anti-Dublin Bus agenda. Sorry for the rant, it is just frustrating how Dublin Bus is given such a hard time by some people and held to some ridiculously high standards compared to other operators and transport organisations.

DB/NTA/GAI have learned their lesson they hardly deserve praise for doing what they are supposed to be doing. Should we praise DB, GAI or the NTA for doing their job no.

I can't speak for other posters here but I don't have an anti DB agenda or a pro GAI or pro NTA agenda but a rather an agenda that favours an efficient integrated public transport system I think most would agree. I will give DB, GAI, IE, Transdev, BE or the NTA credit when credit is due and will crictise them when criticism is due.