Goldengirl wrote: » This post has been deleted.
alaimacerc wrote: » "Cosy consensus of the establishment parties." Should be in the standing politics drinking game. What's the price of entry to the "establishment"? Third-biggest party in the state not qualify?
Hurrache wrote: » My local SF councillor is using the line of Na Riadh being a candidate going against the establishment. I pointed out exactly as you said, they're the 3rd biggest dail party, as well as being a government party in the north, if it ever sat again, they're as establishment as Higgins, he didn't seem to take it onboard.
alaimacerc wrote: » Post-mortem on the debate on Morning Ireland a few moments ago. Correspondent was rather (too?) kind about the moderator's performance, he of course being late of their parish...
batgoat wrote: » A pretty good friend of mine who previously worked with Pavee Point told me earlier than Michael D has done loads work Pavee Point over the years. So I would say he very much so gives a damn.
realdanbreen wrote: » A 'pretty good friend said...' is all fine and dandy but it doesn't answer my question, how many travellers are employed in the Arus?
batgoat wrote: » I have an issue with basically labeling an entire community and negatively affecting their lives as a result. By your logic, if you're a traveller, you're born a criminal, you don't think that these attitudes contribute to the high rate of suicides in the community? In addition to that, your views on Direct Provision is an opposition to refugees in general, you don't care that this state has further added to their suffering via direct provision. So I basically prefer to live in a decent society that is going to label you from birth and isn't going to abandon those in need. Something our current president would agree with. Peter Casey will not win an election, Michael looks likely to win it by a large margin.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Another strong and competent performance from Ni Riada on Morning Ireland. Didn't know anything about her before the campaign but she is very assured I have to say.
realdanbreen wrote: » TBH I'm a bit sick of hearing people being 'outraged' at Caseys remarks about travellers. The bottom line is that feeling outraged and defending travellers in the media is the easy bit, how about hiring them in your business, welcoming them to live next door, allowing them have a wedding in your hotel or have a party in your bar? It just doesn't happen so IMO Casey was right to get a debate going.
Goldengirl wrote: » Sounds good in theory, but then you'd never see or hear those kids again, or maybe in 10 years and they would have Iringlishy accents. The whole point about the ethnic grouping is to encourage more cooperation, otherwise you are writing off whole communities for the foreseeable future. I get that a few posting here think that's maybe a good thing, but if ye think there are problems now, what sort of issues are being created for the next generation ? If nothing is done to support some of these communities now , when there is so much evidence of increasing social and health problems , why would you expect law abiding citizens coming out of that deprivation?
FrancieBrady wrote: » I do hope somebody makes a gif of his face when he was asked about Mandela. She genuinely knocked him back with that one and I have rarely seen Kenny so befuddled. His 'IRA coming back' was another.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Bit of a stretch there Hurrache. When the two main parties practically merge in order to stop them have any power that isn't diluted by coalition, (as we have seen the main parties do to 'junior' parties.) SF seem to have presented both parties with very real dilemmas as they continue to knock on the gates and FG and FF don't like it one bit.
TBH Higgins always struck me as a better fit for SF than the modern Labour party.
alaimacerc wrote: » "Practically" is the thing being stretch here. Past breaking point. A C&S agreement is two whole categories away from a merger. Arguably three categories, as the FF/FG nonsense is more of a lack-of-no-confidence-and-non-supply arrangement. (Compare with the DUP's for a more "classic" one. They have to vote for stuff to get their bung.) Anyway, none of this remotely speaks to the point, and some of it wanders off into unparseable dead-ends. SF can't ever be an establishment party because that's a Bad Thing. FB thinks SF are a Good Thing. QED. It's a bit of empty rhetoric, it'll get retired eventually. Presumably no later than when SF bums end up warming ministerial chairs.
You'd have to ask Higgins about that. Or the Higgins of seven years ago, as he's no longer party-affiliated. Sounds like complete nonsense to me, but unsurprising in the light of your usual "SF is the repository of all things good, true, and wholesome" pronouncements.
MrMusician18 wrote: » They are looking for solutions, but solutions are hard to come by if no one in authority acknowledges the issues for fear of being called a racist. I personally know of a few people who will be backing Casey now (not me btw) on the back of his remarks. They understand he hasn't any solutions but they tell me that he is at least acknowledging the ridiculousness in the way the state has indulged this group and is being honest in the way he is calling it out. They agree with Casey that the other candidates were not being honest when they said they wouldn't mind having a halting sure beside their house.
Quentin Purple Bellboy wrote: » I agree with this. The travelling community have a right to have their culture respected, but they must in turn respect the rest of the population and abide by the laws we all have to abide by. But it's impossible to get a proper discussion going if Pavee Point, the media etc don't recognise the problems caused by a significant number of travellers who are tarnishing the image of the travelling community and causing understandable resentment amongst members of the wider society. Respect a two way street, and being a member of the travelling community should not give you a cloak of protection from any criticism or any obligations to society.
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » Does he even know where a duck's knees are ? The visible joint is the ankle. Most bird's knees are hidden higher up. You wouldn't be kicking that high against something with skull the size of a horse and a sharp shearing beak
FrancieBrady wrote: » Well, some would say that FF should have gone into a coalition with FG if they were so willing to assist in stable government because that would be inherently much more stable and FG should have insisted on it, if they too were genuinely about stable government. What we got was a cobbled together C/S deal which neatly stops SF being the official opposition, another step up the rung to power.
I don't think, and never have, that SF have all the answers and I don't think they are subject to any less bull**** and politicking than other parties. But carry on depicting me as a 'shinner' if it helps you, we know where that scare tactic comes from in Irish politics.
It comes from listening to him actually, I mean, when you pare it all down, is there a huge difference to his position and Liadh's. I can't see much tbh.
alaimacerc wrote: » "Cosy consensus of the establishment parties." Should be in the standing politics drinking game.
Adamcp898 wrote: » IT CAN FLY!! What is it with this man and choosing opponents he can't possibly beat?
AGC wrote: » Apologies if I am jumping in and have missed something earlier but what difference does it make if there are travellers employed in the civil service or not?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Yes he did. Sean is coming across as the love child of Terry Prone and a robot. He has clearly been taking heavy duty public speaking, decorum classes. And he is failing the exam!
alaimacerc wrote: » Sadly no. From da link: "The Dromornithidae, an extinct family of large ground birds endemic to Australia." (My emph.) Think more "giant quacky emu" -- if you dare!
