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So Michael D IS running again!

realdanbreen

So when Michael D was campaigning for president and said it would be a one off term he was lying?
Many voted for him because he was only going for one term and wasn't trying to hog the job for 14 years.

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Itssoeasy

Very dramatic close up on pat and point to the camera all to go to a break.

alaimacerc

Eric Cartman wrote: »

are you saying traveller children are genetically incapable of learning at the same rate as a normal settled child ? or is it because of practices in the travellers own community that aren't conducive to educating a child ?

... or just possibly, the aggregate effect of the "settled" community treating them like complete crap?

batgoat

Eric Cartman wrote: »

are you saying traveller children are genetically incapable of learning at the same rate as a normal settled child ? or is it because of practices in the travellers own community that aren't conducive to educating a child ?

Key reasons cited below. Previous generations have very poor levels of literacy, the way to change that is to offer more supports to accommodate for that. There's no way you can change that historical aspect besides such supports. By providing such supports, the trust relationship with the parents increases. When people like you reduce them to criminals from birth, you contribute to that distrust btw.

She said among the barriers to progression are the fact that around 70% of Traveller children live in families where the mother has no formal education, or has primary level education only, almost half have difficulty reading instructions for medications, there is a distrust of the routes society provides for progression to third level, and Traveller history and culture is virtually ignored, not valued or supported in the school curriculum.

Also worth noting the article shows every indication that providing supports works. The benefit is generational. Meanwhile, you likely think it's outrageous to offer such supports. It isn't.

Itssoeasy

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Higgins is rattled, Caseys traveller comments are the biggest applause of the night.

Well casey will need more than one comment on travellers to win the election. I seriously doubt that enough people will vote for him based on that.

Eric Cartman

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well casey will need more than one comment on travellers to win the election. I seriously doubt that enough people will vote for him based on that.

I don't think he'll win by any means but it shows how easy it is to rattle the others if you have an actual good idea.

alaimacerc

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

There it is again, the SF lady says her speech in both English and Irish. I did not understand the Irish bits. Why does she bother? What is the point?
Pick 1 language and make your speech in that 1 language. 100% of people watching will understand it in English.

The Irish inserts were just fake and pretentious and make her look like a typical SF fanatic.

It's also pipe for what she'll presumably slip in later, about Ballyvourney being the Most Oppressed Parish Ever.

Hotblack Desiato

Freeman - sooo whiny on the funding

FrancieBrady

Eric Cartman wrote: »

I don't think he'll win by any means but it shows how easy it is to rattle the others if you have an actual good idea.

It's over after 10 mins Eric.

Beechwoodspark

MDH seems a bit all over the place. In fairness they are all gunning for him

Itssoeasy

tonycascarino wrote: »

Gallagher and Duffy are some pain in the holes & Freeman is far too straight laced for my liking. Higgins, Ní Riada & Casey are the most likeable.

I dislike casey even before his comments on travellers which were ill advised. I've been impressed by how Ni Riada has handled herself.

Eric Cartman

alaimacerc wrote: »

... or just possibly, the aggregate effect of the "settled" community treating them like complete crap?

ahh yeah, blame settled people, people being suspicious of their da stealing is why a traveller child isn't showing up to school every single day for 12 years.

batgoat wrote: »

Key reasons cited below. Previous generations have very poor levels of literacy, the way to change that is to offer more supports to accommodate for that. There's no way you can change that historical aspect besides such supports. By providing such supports, the trust relationship with the parents increases. When people like you reduce them to criminals from birth, you contribute to that distrust btw.

Also worth noting the article shows every indication that providing supports works. The benefit is generational. Meanwhile, you likely think it's outrageous to offer such supports. It isn't.

so basically its the traveller families own fault that the environment isn't there. Travellers cannot effectively raise and educate children to modern standards , so then perhaps tusla should get involved.

touts

Higgins keeps referring people to his literature. Could it be that he doesn't actually know, or remember, what his policies are.

Brian201888

Assuming Casey doesn't withdraw he'll end up with a far higher vote than will be predicted. He's a pillock but I'll be amazed if he comes up with the vote that the polls are predicting.

pixelburp

Apart from anything else, has Casey said he'd move back to Ireland if he won? Doesn't he live in the US, and if so, it smells awfully like him being a possible Tax Exile. Which to me might make him a bit of a white collar crook and unfit to run. Nevermind the pie in the sky over this Irish diaspora social media. But one harsh comment over travellers and suddenly he's a darling in the eyes of some?

Itssoeasy

Haha pat is loving bringing up the 2011 election.

FrancieBrady

touts wrote: »

Higgins keeps referring people to his literature. Could it be that he doesn't actually know, or remember, what his policies are.

'keeps' he did it once. :rolleyes:

For Forks Sake

Freeman whinging again about political parties. Isn't she a Taoiseachs nominee to the Seanad?

Loafing Oaf

Audience seem to applaud anything said with sufficient emphasis. IMO clapping should be banned at these events, it just encourages platitudes and grandstanding.

Jameswhalley

MD is poor here

Loved pks quip about US 8yrs

Hotblack Desiato

touts wrote: »

Higgins keeps referring people to his literature. Could it be that he doesn't actually know, or remember, what his policies are.

No because he was repeatedly not allowed to finish his answer to a question

Itssoeasy

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Audience seem to applaud anything said with sufficient emphasis. IMO clapping should be banned at these events, it just encourages platitudes and grandstanding.

As we saw during the campaign on the repeal of the 8th Amendment clapping can come across as very inappropriate.

Eric Cartman

A good all dig at the IRA links, brilliant.

For Forks Sake

Pat isn't going to let Ni Riada skate around this question...

Hotblack Desiato

Ni Riada - 'the big boys made me do it sir' defence

Itssoeasy

Are they gone though ?

Eric Cartman

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Pat isn't going to let Ni Riada skate around this question...

and he tried to get her to ID Gerry as a member, balsy move, sadly she evaded it.

Mooooo

Pat is doing more debating than any of the candidates

FrancieBrady

Pat knocked back there. Didn't think I'd ever see that.

paleoperson

Honestly, there's something a bit inspiring about watching someone that old fighting for such a position, still trying to cling onto power.

Squatter

pixelburp wrote: »

Apart from anything else, has Casey said he'd move back to Ireland if he won? Doesn't he live in the US, and if so, it smells awfully like him being a possible Tax Exile. Which to me might make him a bit of a white collar crook and unfit to run. Nevermind the pie in the sky over this Irish diaspora social media. But one harsh comment over travellers and suddenly he's a darling in the eyes of some?

On the topic of white collar crime, probably worth reminding younger readers that Saint Mickey Dee the socialist had no problem with voting for the corrupt Reynolds/Ahern tax amnesty back in 1993; and Albert threw him TG4 as a thank-you.