Clareman wrote: » The hurling doesn't really affect Clare too badly, they've a match, then 1 or 2 weekends off then another match then either 1 or 2 weekends off and then 2 games in a row. Might look like 3 games in a row but there'll be weekends off
sasol wrote: » You are wrong. Clare do have 3 games in a row. They play Waterford on May 12th. Then three weeks later they play Tipp on June 2nd. They play Limerick on June 9th and Cork on June 16thhttp://munster.gaa.ie/fixtures/senior/
letowski wrote: » I suppose when one thinks about it, is 3 games in 3 weeks really that hard on intercounty players? It doesn't seem like a long stretch when thinking of other sports, granted these players are amateurs. But before they hit those 3 games, they would only have played 1 game in about 2 months. I think they should be fine really, with the last game at home to Cork there will be a packed ground and a good buzz in Ennis. If they get a win against Tipp at the start of the run, they can build up momentum. I think what this management needs to do more next year, is to use their squad more through the league and keep players fresh with good competition for places. Like is there any point putting the likes of John Conlon out at the start of February.. like what are we going to learn at this stage? Last year we pretty much started the same team every week which was disappointing. There is a couple of young players like Hayes, Ryan, Connors, Cooney, etc that look primed to make the step up next year and offer something. Let's see them.
Clareman wrote: » To be honest I think too much was made out of 4 games in 4 weeks, in my opinion the biggest problem was recovery and down time for players, hearing of squads being in for video analysis on Monday's followed by training on Tuesday was too much. There probably isn't another amateur sport to compare it to but looking at other sports in general, soccer normally have 2 games a week, rugby plays the 6 nations in 4 weeks with tours having 3 tests in a row, American Football plays 16 games in 17 weeks. Now I know there's lots of arguements for different sports having different levels of fitness but it's the same for all of them so no excuses.
letowski wrote: » It's an interesting point. On top of this, intercounty GAA teams do a hell of alot more strenuous and physical pre-seasons compared to professional sports, yet after only 3 games we can excuse them for tiredness. Like county panels will start their 2019 preparations next month, despite not playing championship for another 7 months. I think, if you take Davy Fitz's teams for example, the last 5 years with Wexford and Clare both those teams have really fell flat by mid summer.
letowski wrote: » This is a separate note, but I honestly see the league as just a pre-season tournament, one that should be used to blood players. I give it very little importance towards the success of a team's season. Like I can't even remember who was in the league final last year! But I am strongly against our management's policy last year of using a good 13 of our starting 15 for every round of the league. I hope it changes. I think the key is to keep your squad fresh. Rotate players in the league and use subs for impact in the last 20. Create a competitive environment in your squad and one which will also prevent players playing every minute of every game in the lead up to the championship. In the weeks running up to the championship, you will have good competitive training sessions and a panel primed for the championship. As you say also, it's important to keep training's light between 1 week match weekends.
BloodyBill wrote: » Clare need a bigger squad with every player on that squad capable of doing a job. The team that won the All Ireland last year had the best squad. Compare our 1 to 18 with Limerick and we are level pegging more or less. However from 18 to 28 we fall down badly. Those 10 have little experience and we aren't sure how they will perform. I for one want to see these players all get a few league games. I don't care if we get relegated. The 3 games in a row is totally a psychological issue. The physical stuff is no problem but it will take players a year to adjust to more games. We have a great draw this year with Tipp at home and Cork aswell. But lose one of them and it's trouble. It 'll be another great year.
letowski wrote: » BloodyBill wrote: » Clare need a bigger squad with every player on that squad capable of doing a job. The team that won the All Ireland last year had the best squad. Compare our 1 to 18 with Limerick and we are level pegging more or less. However from 18 to 28 we fall down badly. Those 10 have little experience and we aren't sure how they will perform. I for one want to see these players all get a few league games. I don't care if we get relegated. The 3 games in a row is totally a psychological issue. The physical stuff is no problem but it will take players a year to adjust to more games. We have a great draw this year with Tipp at home and Cork aswell. But lose one of them and it's trouble. It 'll be another great year. I agree, Limerick got some great impact off the bench in Dowling and Casey in particular. You make a good point about our squad and Limerick's squad from 18 to 28. Our subs in the first match against Galway were: 16. Fahy 17. Hayes 18. Dillon 19. Fitzgerald 20. O'Malley 21. McCarthy 22. Deasy 23. Galvin 24. O'Niell 25. McGrath 26. Shanagher While Limericks subs in the AI final were: 16. Hennessey 17. Casey 18. Condon 19. Dowling 20. Downes 21. Hickey 22. McCarthy 23. Nash 24. O'Donoghue 25. Reidy 26. Ryan Your post got me thinking, it's very noticable how our squad and theirs have developed in recent years. Limerick have a very strong veteran presence in their squad, I count 7 of their 11 subs with about 4 years or more experience playing at intercounty level, while Dillon and McGrath are the only players with any real experience on our bench. Also Paul Browne would probably be there too for them if not injured. Put it simply, if we were to count up the appearances in the championship of both benches, it would be very lopsided. Limerick showed there value of having a strong panel of players last year. We on the other hand have lost Colin Ryan, Brendan Bugler, Conor Ryan, Pat Donnellan, Darach Honan, Domhnaill O'Donovan in the last few years which has left a void in our panel. And its worth noting that it's not really because of age, Bugs and Donnellan are 33, the rest are younger. I still think though, we still have one of the strongest benches in the country. Galway were really stretched for backs last year while KK and Cork both had limited squads. Waterford and Tipp have good squads, but probably need to figure out there best 15 right new under their new managers. I think with us, there is strong potential next year to have a serious impact bench. With Diarmuid Ryan and Gary Cooney looking ready to make the step up, and hopefully Aaron Cunningham and Oisin O'Brien back, we have a lot options in the county, after the starting 15 that played the first game versus Galway. I have 19 outfield players listed below that we need to pick 10 from to make up the rest of the matchday 26. Rory Hayes, Oisin O'Brien, Cian Dillon, David Fitzgerald, Mike O'Malley, Jason McCarthy, Diarmuid Ryan, Gearoid O'Connell Conor McGrath, Aron Shanagher, Ian Galvin, Niall Deasy, Gary Cooney, Mikey O'Niell, Aaron Cunningham, Billy Connors, Cathal McInerney, Bobby Duggan Of course, I accept a few could end up starting (I think Hayes and Shanagher will). But the talent is there, but alot is untested, as you said we to see what some of these players can do in the league. I think Molony and O'Connor need to do a better job next spring of using the squad.
Clareman wrote: » This graphic is doing my head in, why can't they just move Kerry to them bottom or the Clare/Waterford quarter final to the bottom?https://twitter.com/GaaClare/status/1050476963096391681
Dickie9 wrote: » Some performance by st.josephs Miltown two clearys ran the show Gordon Kelly rolling back the years gonna be some final St.josephs Miltown 1.15 Cratloe 1.08
windy shepard henderson wrote: » great weekend of football in fairness , yesterday was kilmurry ibrickans first championship defeat in two years , the last team that beat them was .....ennistymon that same year miltown won the championship they played ennistymon twice , in round 1 and the 1/4 final stages they won both games by 1 point i believe so an excellent final in store ger quinlan is some man in fairness he has some job done with ennistymon this must be there first ever county final , i am open to correction on this also but great to see two sides that have been competing consistently in championship over the last few years contest the final miltown will be favourites but it will be a close game , looking forward to it
Dickie9 wrote: » Yep miltown won by 7 but it could have easily been double that hit the post cleary missed peno even tayto got up from the backs and nearly buried 1....theyll take some beating fine solid performance 1 to 15....Gordon Kelly great game curtin as sweeper 1st half midfield done well conor cleary immense....Some great scores by eoin cleary two boys done well inside Murray and mcdonagh they could get call up to clare seniors next year nice brand off football they're playing and a very fit team.....
funnyname wrote: » What will be the 4 amalgamations next year North Clare Kil/Coolmeen/SG Loop Head ????
windy shepard henderson wrote: » apparently loop head looks like it will happen , the hope after that is a clon lir in north clare hopfully coolmeen and kildysart will take part and finally one of the committee members is very keen on a east clare gaels team like in ladies football which would include the banner and ruan also , in the last few years on the clare underage development squads the likes of mcgoveran and mounsey amongst others were the better players on the panel also young meehan from the banner, mounsey is ruan and mcgoveran is bodyke they all feature for the clare u17 footballers on there run to the all ireland 1/4 final this year where they lost to galway the losing finalists mills and clooney have football setups so it would start with them if it was to happen but a long shot , it will happen in time though i reckon though , if there is no east clare team i wouldnt be surprised if the faughs reemerged in some form , maybe barefield/banner but i know one person on the committee that is egar to get the east clare lads involved its probably more of a hope rather then a possibility at the moment
supernova5 wrote: » Clare Senior Football roll of honour shows Ennistymon winning the title in 1943 can anyone verify if this is correct?
Dickie9 wrote: » St.josephs miltown v Ennistymon Reckon this could be won in midfield Ennistymon will probably start with Malone and Fitzgerald Miltown operated with Conor Cleary in midfield the last day with Looney....Mcdonagh and Looney were named at midfield the last day with Mcdonagh playing inside winning the penalty with Hawes getting a black card also Brian Curtin was sweeper the last day worked well reckon they'll go 15 v 15 Conor Cleary will probably pick up malone midfield reckon Mcdonagh will start midfield v Fitzgerald basically it'll be where the game is won and lost Miltown could have the upper hand here if they start Curtin sweeper again they'll probably leave 2 inside forwards Murray and eoin Cleary and hopefully get quick ball into them
funnyname wrote: » Ennistymon are a young team with a few old hands who have yards of experience. Their fitness levels and ability to retain position are excellent. I think their odds of 11/4 are a bit of an insult, probably should be more like 6/4.
