iptba wrote: » Probably not the most outrageous of suggestions, but I haven't seen any similar section on men
mzungu wrote: » iptba wrote: Probably not the most outrageous of suggestions, but I haven't seen any similar section on men It would wrong to get bogged down into a "if they have a section for women then why not for men" kind of thing.
iptba wrote: Probably not the most outrageous of suggestions, but I haven't seen any similar section on men
iptba wrote: » I don't agree, but then from what I recall, we don't agree on some other things, either. This isn't an isolated case: from what I recall, they have had sections before highlighting what they planned to do for women but no similar sections for men. Political parties are important entities. They set our laws, set our taxes and control tens of billions of spending. There are 2 genders, which are approximately 50% each. Focusing on how you will help one gender is a biased approach.
One eyed Jack wrote: » Focussing on how they appear only to be helping one gender, is an equally biased approach. I wouldn't be a Labour supporter myself personally, but given as you point out that political parties set our laws and so on, I feel it's only pertinent to point out that it was a Labour Senator who recently tabled a motion for the Government to issue an apology to men for the laws that were introduced then too -Nash secures Government backing for apology to men convicted under 'draconian laws'
Calhoun wrote: » That's for gaymen though it fits the narrative.
mzungu wrote: » It would wrong to get bogged down into a "if they have a section for women then why not for men" kind of thing. They mention rolling out the HPV for boys which is a good thing IMO. Also the contraceptive plan would most likely be just as much of a benefit to men as it would be to women etc.
One eyed Jack wrote: » Someone run and get a fire blanket quick, put out the flames before that post catches fire :pac: Ahh no I do know what you mean though - fits the social justice narrative (and didn’t do Leo’s profile any harm either), but it was just when ipta mentioned that he didn’t see anything about men and how politicians decide our laws and so on, that one came to mind as their most recent contribution to men’s rights issues is all.
iptba wrote: » I don't agree, but then from what I recall, we don't agree on some other things, either.
iptba wrote: » This isn't an isolated case: from what I recall, they have had sections before highlighting what they planned to do for women but no similar sections for men. Political parties are important entities. They set our laws, set our taxes and control tens of billions of spending. There are 2 genders, which are approximately 50% each. Focusing on how you will help one gender is a biased approach.
gizmo555 wrote: » With all due respect, it's not just your opinion that boys should get the HPV vaccine, it's also for example the strong view of the USA's Centre for Disease Control:Boys need HPV vaccine, too. Here’s why. Yet, at the time my daughter was getting the vaccine from the state vaccination service, I asked my GP if I could get it for my sons too. I explained that I understood it wasn't available free as for my daughter, but I was willing to pay the costs myself. She advised me that she couldn't do it, because it was not yet approved in Ireland for boys.
Calhoun wrote: » The funny thing is i always look at Leo as someone who broke the mold as he has never let his sexual status define him which is what you want. I get what you are saying about the above, i suppose i was just pointing out they aren't going far enough as they are looking after one central group. Saying that no political party is, i suppose the closest we have is the current government who have invested 500K in the likes of menshed. Only yesterday you have statistics on male suicide and yet it probably will continue to be ignored by most.
mzungu wrote: » To be fair, it made it onto every news bulletin I listened to or saw yesterday. While men are still disproportionately represented in the stats, it should also be noted that figures are down on the previous year. There was ad campaigns getting more men to talk and all that jazz, so perhaps this was a factor in the decreasing overall numbers? This brings me back to what I said above, men are not being ignored (not in the mental health area, anyway) it's just that this stuff goes under the radar.
mzungu wrote: » Thing is though, what exactly would you like to see them doing for men in general? Maybe I'm wrong here, but in the case of things like mental illness and suicide, the budget (FG's one) appears to cater for these issues regardless of gender, and since men are most likely to suffer from both, are they not accounted for there?
Calhoun wrote: » It already is being overshadowed and forgotten by another issue thats come up for women. Will it be talked about in the dail? probably not but i can tell you the item for the women will.Just because its decreasing that must be ok? sure we just forget about it until next time i suppose. I disagree with you, its more than just a bit of money its how we generally treat an expect men to behave as society. Right now it seems that men can only be bad and only become somewhat of an interest when they reach the end of their rope or are dying in our streets. Health issues (generally), Mental health, homelessness, ect they all impact men yet we really see much in the way bar some lip service. The homeless statistics used more often than not are for women and children.
Calhoun wrote: » I would want to know that if i for whatever reason fall on hard times i wont just fall through the cracks and be forgotten about. I don't get that level of comfort from our current system. Maybe as i said having a group representing men's issues in political parties as it seems to be ok for the women to do so. You only have to look at the things that generally drive some men to the brink, i.e fathers rights, homelessness ect. Do you actually believe that men in the current system are ok?
mzungu wrote: » A lot of things drive men to the brink. Each is different, and they all ended up at that point in life due to a myriad of factors preceding it. I cannot answer whether men in the system will be ok, because each person is different. I mean, look at the amount of rich and famous that slip through the cracks? Money and security are great, but some people can be self destructive and no amount of government ad campaigns will get within a country mile of saving them.
mzungu wrote: » A lot of things drive men to the brink. Each is different, and they all ended up at that point in life due to a myriad of factors preceding it.
In the UK, AI is already reducing real-world harm – and has the potential to save lives. In June, at the Male Psychology Conference, I listened to a captivating keynote speech by Dr Joe Rafferty, Chief Executive of Mersey Care NHS Foundation Trust, who is championing a zero tolerance attitude to suicide. He told me: “Using AI, we identified patterns in self-harming behaviour by analysing the text contained within incident reports. This allowed us to identify high risks factors within the ward to enable a more focused series of interventions.“We have seen a 43pc overall reduction in self-harm in the wards where we have piloted this approach. Of course it’s early days for AI, and we need to do much more, but it is promising." In August, in Dr Xand Van Tulleken’s excellent BBC documentary 'Stopping Male Suicide,’ we learned from Dr Joseph Franklin of Florida State University that machine learning algorithms could prevent suicide.Franklin’s software looked at the medical records of thousands of American patients, analysing up to 800 factors to determine 'suicidality'. His staggering conclusion? “We are able to predict both non-fatal suicide attempts and death with about 90 per cent accuracy a few years before it happens”. While AI is in its infancy, it’s abundantly clear it has a huge role to play in the future of mental health provision. Today, HARR-e takes a small step into that future.
Christie Blatchford: B.C. man pleads for family court reform in suicide note In a scrawled suicide note, he wrote: ‘Parental Alienation is devastating. I loved my children as much as a husband and father could. I see no light’
mzungu wrote: » Not at all. But the problem is not rooted in parties trying to play the inclusivity card, which is what we were talking about. Things like homeless figures that are reported usually put children out front and then refer to the remainder as 'adults' or 'people.' However, if it is an opinion column with a gender slant then you might get mention of the amount of men or women that are homeless. Men have been featured quite prominently in mental health awareness of late so I would hardly call it lip service. But look, that is getting into a scoreboard scenario which as I said above is a road to nowhere.
One eyed Jack wrote: » Just after reading this article, and I thought it might be worth sharing how AI is enabling us to identify men who may be at risk of suicide - Bold emphasis my own, that really is phenomenal, and I'd love to see the data for it to verify that conclusion, but if it were true, I think it's certainly something which Irish Government should consider funding to carry out further investigation.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Only spotted this now but this crap has to stop and it's exactly where Ireland is heading.https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-45372452 Women can go Men who think there women can go Women who think there men can go Men who don't identify as a man or a woman can go Transgender people can go But funk me stay away if your a straight or gay man as minorities think your a bit rapey.
The woman bringing the Gate Theatre into the 21st century Selina Cartmell, chief executive of the Gate Theatre: ‘I was given the support to be fearless’
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She wasn’t long following through. Since her arrival she has catapulted the number of female directors at the Gate from eight per cent to 80 per cent and the number of female writers from six per cent to 33 per cent.
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