Tommy Robinson jailed

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Sharia Law does have a standing as you can get a Sharia divorce (and is legally recognised by the civil power) and there are underground courts running in parallel to civil law.

and the relevance of that to a police officer or serving soldier?

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and the relevance of that to a police officer or serving soldier?

There is an immediate conflict of interest there. Do I have to point it out to you?

Danzy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

You claimed that

clearly this is nonsense as many do. As sharia law has no standing in britain I'm not sure why you think it is relevant.

Not quite so.

Sharia courts are recognized and they are playing wreck with women's rights.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and the relevance of that to a police officer or serving soldier?

I dont know go ask around Tower Hamlets.

Probably as it says in the Bible "a man cannot be the servant of two masters".

skooterblue2 wrote: »

There is an immediate conflict of interest there. Do I have to point it out to you?

where is the conflict between the work of a police officer and a sharia divorce?

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I dont know go ask around Tower Hamlets.

Probably as it says in the Bible "a man cannot be the servant of two masters".

It says a lot of stupid **** in the bible. Irrelevant

Danzy wrote: »

Not quite so.

Sharia courts are recognized and they are playing wreck with women's rights.

"I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you", in front of two male witnesses (as a mans word is worth twice that of a womans) and congratulations, you are now divorced with what worldly good that are now on your person at this point in time.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Sharia Law does have a standing as you can get a Sharia divorce (and is legally recognised by the civil power) and there are underground courts running in parallel to civil law.

..which would be illegal and thus have no standing....

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It says a lot of stupid **** in the bible. Irrelevant

Not really. Have you every tried to work for two opposing jobs, played yourself in chess or held two diametrically opposing points of view? You cant serve two masters. Being Muslim is being about promoting Islam and being a police officer is about civil law. You cannot serve the two.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

"I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you", in front of two male witnesses (as a mans word is worth twice that of a womans) and congratulations, you are now divorced with what worldly good that are now on your person at this point in time.

Sorry, but you don't know how the law works in the UK. Sharia divorces are NOT recognised by the courts. You need to obtain a civil one as well to be divorced in the eyes of the law.

Oh - and Muslims can and do serve in the police force and the army. Fancy that!

skooterblue2 wrote: »

I read the article. Why does the British Army have a muslim advisor on retainer? A Muslim cannot join either the British Army or the police force. This is forbidden by the Muslim religion.

Truly craptacular post.

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Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Brit police force unveils new uniform for female Muslim officers

You'd have to love the phrasing!

skooterblue2 wrote: »

"I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you", in front of two male witnesses (as a mans word is worth twice that of a womans) and congratulations, you are now divorced with what worldly good that are now on your person at this point in time.

not in britain it isn't. Tradtional sharia marriages (known as Nikah) are now recognised as marriages in the UK and all divorces have to go through the normal divorce courts.

Odhinn wrote: »

..which would be illegal and thus have no standing....

Its a short and slippery slope. Give Islam an inch and it takes a mile. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/01/british-court-recognises-sharia-law-landmark-divorce-case/

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Not really. Have you every tried to work for two opposing jobs, played yourself in chess or held two diametrically opposing points of view? You cant serve two masters. Being Muslim is being about promoting Islam and being a police officer is about civil law. You cannot serve the two.

~It seems 2000 muslims in Britain haven't read from the same rule book you have...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_of_Muslim_Police

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Not really. Have you every tried to work for two opposing jobs, played yourself in chess or held two diametrically opposing points of view? You cant serve two masters. Being Muslim is being about promoting Islam and being a police officer is about civil law. You cannot serve the two.

You really dont have a balls notion what you are talking about. Police are concerned with CRIMINAL law not CIVIL. Go to the police about a civil matter and they will tell you to take a hike.

Skooterblue - Ever heard of this chap?

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Its a sho(..................)/

You were wrong, so please don't dig yourself in a deeper hole with the the "slippery slope" moving goalpost thing.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Its a short and slippery slope. Give Islam an inch and it takes a mile. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/01/british-court-recognises-sharia-law-landmark-divorce-case/

you need to actually read things before posting them. That is concerned with the validity of islamic marriages (the Nikah i referred to earlier) not with islamic divorces. The articles make the point that islamic marriages must go through the same divorce courts as other marriages and the change in law STRENGTHENS the position of women in islamic marriages

Timberrrrrrrr

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Its a short and slippery slope. Give Islam an inch and it takes a mile. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/01/british-court-recognises-sharia-law-landmark-divorce-case/

Why would you be against this decision?

The case will have significant implications for women who marry under sharia law but not UK law and could give them the right to divorce their husbands and split the assets related to the union, as well as securing a divorce more easily.

MissShihTzu wrote: »

Sorry, but you don't know how the law works in the UK. Sharia divorces are NOT recognised by the courts. You need to obtain a civil one as well to be divorced in the eyes of the law.

Oh - and Muslims can and do serve in the police force and the army. Fancy that!

Yes but you are forbidden to by your religion. You are not permitted to join a kafir army or police force.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Yes but you are forbidden to by your religion. You are not permitted to join a kafir army or police force.

but somehow they do. I think you have embarrassed yourself enough

Odhinn wrote: »

~It seems 2000 muslims in Britain haven't read from the same rule book you have...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_of_Muslim_Police

Never quote Wikipedia..... rookie mistake

MissShihTzu wrote: »

Skooterblue - Ever heard of this chap?

No but but as soon as I read Uganda, the alarm bells were ringing.

Timberrrrrrrr

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Yes but you are forbidden to by your religion. You are not permitted to join a kafir army or police force.

And yet they have been doing so for a century so you're silly claim is wrong!

The bible says it's forbidden to wear 2 different fabrics or eat shellfish, do Christians follow these silly rules?

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Yes but you are forbidden to by your religion. You are not permitted to join a kafir army or police force.

....but that isn't true, not remotely, as attested to by the 2,000 muslims in the UK police forces. Why do you keep posting the same lie over and over again, when you've been provided with the proof of the opposite.

You know that about 2 million muslims fought in ww1 for the allies?

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Never quote Wikipedia..... rookie mistake

are you denying the existence of the National Association of Muslim Police?

they even have a facebook page. Is quoting that a rookie mistake as well?

https://www.facebook.com/official.namp/

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Yes but you are forbidden to by your religion. You are not permitted to join a kafir army or police force.

Really? Again, you are talking complete *****. You have no idea about Islam and the way most reasonable Muslims think in the UK. Check out the link I posted earlier...

MissShihTzu wrote: »

Skooterblue - Ever heard of this chap?

And oh look! Here's another: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amjad_Hussain

Care to comment?

Oh and before you start talking about Wikipedia? Tarique Ghaffur has written many articles for the media back home in the UK and is a prominent Muslim having been a serving officer in the Met Police. An Assistant Commissioner no less! Fancy that....

A quick glance at Who's Who should help you further. Both I believe have entries in there.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Never quote Wikipedia..... rookie mistake

Not in the slightest

http://r-islam.com/en/index.php/news/1300-national-association-of-muslim-police-namp-works-day-and-night-for-the-safety-of-their-country

https://leics.police.uk/about-us/our-departments/association-muslim-police