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Google Home Hub

Google have just announced their official assistant with a screen, the Google Home Hub, $149 and launches on October 22nd including the UK:

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/10/9/17943362/google-home-hub-smart-assistant-screen-price-release-date

Looks really interesting.

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namloc1980

OU812 wrote: »

Really like the lenovo, but I was going to get a home anyway because of the nest integration, so I'll most likely go for the Google version.

Can you install Whatsapp on the lenovo version (rather than Duo) for video calling?

No play store to download apps.

The high horse brigade

OU812 wrote: »

Really like the lenovo, but I was going to get a home anyway because of the nest integration, so I'll most likely go for the Google version.

Can you install Whatsapp on the lenovo version (rather than Duo) for video calling?

Doubtful, there's no WhatsApp for tablets only phones

OU812

Really like the lenovo, but I was going to get a home anyway because of the nest integration, so I'll most likely go for the Google version.

Can you install Whatsapp on the lenovo version (rather than Duo) for video calling?

The high horse brigade

I'm having a strange bug where I can't invite the missus to my home in the new app, when I invite her she shows up without an image and she never receives the invitation email. I'm having no problem inviting my son and daughter.

OldMrBrennan83

I hadn't realised about the camera. I'll definitely stick with the Lenovo then as I'd rather have it than not.

Mine will be going in the kitchen with the Pixel 3 on the Pixel Stand in the bedroom to cover morning messages, etc. I imagine the Lenovo will be handy in the kitchen even for the likes of Duo.

BionicRasher

Seems like it is different to other smart displays
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/10/google-home-hub-under-the-hood-its-nothing-like-other-google-smart-displays/

OldMrBrennan83

It's on apkmirror now too. Version 2.6.6.14.

The high horse brigade

donspeekinglesh wrote: »

It's updated on iOS, but not Android.

I just got the new update on Android

donspeekinglesh

listermint wrote: »

Anyone else see update on Google home. When I check appstore the app is the same hasnt updated since Aug 18

It's updated on iOS, but not Android.

listermint

Anyone else see update on Google home. When I check appstore the app is the same hasnt updated since Aug 18

CantGetNoSleep

What are the chances of things like this and the new Nest dropping on Black Friday?

(I've booked the day off for that btw - hope to have a clear credit card by then too)

The high horse brigade

fixxxer wrote: »

As in, I can buy Ikea lights and connect them to the echo plus because the EP has the bridge part built in. The previous Google Home didn't.

No, this is just a screen with Google Assistant

fixXxer

The high horse brigade wrote: »

What hub? All google services are in the cloud. This hub is just a screen with Google Assistant

As in, I can buy Ikea lights and connect them to the echo plus because the EP has the bridge part built in. The previous Google Home didn't.

The high horse brigade

fixxxer wrote: »

So does this actually hav a hub built in like the Echo plus, or does each smart device still need it's own bridge?

What hub? All google services are in the cloud. This hub is just a screen with Google Assistant. Hue still needs its own bridge

fixXxer

So does this actually hav a hub built in like the Echo plus, or does each smart device still need it's own bridge?

For those interested in seeing what the Smart Home controls might be like on this and if your current devices might look like, you should check out the Google Home app which was updated today and has the new "Home View" added, which I believe mimics what you will see on the home.

Note, you may need to update the app and you seem to need to force close it for it to completely work.

Looks nice, I can see all my Hue lights grouped per room. I can turn on/off all lights in the room and adjust brightness and deep dive and also control individual lights. However as of yet no colour or white ambiance control!

Logitech Circle Cameras appear too, but can't seem to actually view or control them.

TP-Link smart plug there, works fine, can turn on/off

Netatmo Thermostat there, can click into it to view current temperature of house and current setting and adjust the temperature.

Of course all Google Homes, Chromecasts, Shield TV and Audio groups are there too.

A nice new layout that looks good, but still a lot to improve there, hopefully this is just the start and things will improve with time.

Improvements I'd like to see:
- Support for colour of Hue lights
- Support for Hue scenes
- Support for viewing the Circle cameras
- Support for Hue motion sensors and them reporting temp and light levels
- Ability to add shortcuts and routines to the home view
- Ability to add SmartThings hub to home view.
- Ability to create sub-groups for hue lights and have them on the home view

SemperFidelis

looks like it will work with anything that currently works in the google home app

https://store.google.com/us/product/google_home_hub_works_with

Tinder Surprise

bk wrote: »

Note, this isn't really a Hub like the Hue Hub or SmartThings hub, it is just a screen. All the control and integration actually happens in the cloud.

Thanks bk

I will continue on the Home Assistance plan then (when I get the time that is) but will probably still pick one of these up for the kitchen, as the wife misses a radio in the mornings - this will fulfill that need but also give me a lot more options too.

Stoner

bk wrote:

Note, this isn't really a Hub like the Hue Hub or SmartThings hub, it is just a screen. All the control and integration actually happens in the cloud.

Or the famous Google On Hub that bit the dust on Saturday night on me

OldMrBrennan83

I think I remember seeing that Google will control the software on all so hopefully they do all end up the same.

namloc1980 wrote: »

Need to see what sort of home integration it has beyond Nest products as in, does it do Hue etc.

The video on the Verge of him using one, shows him controlling Hue lights and how the screens colour changes to match the colour of the Hue light as it changes. So pretty cool looking.

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Hue already supports Google Assistant but it's up to Hue to develop for this new version with a screen

That doesn't seem to be the case. It seems that Google have created standard screen interfaces for certain categories of devices, like smart lights, thermostat, cameras, etc. And as long as the device supports Google Assistant and fits into one of those categories, it should just work.

It seems Google are using standardised API's to support devices from different companies.

It is a bit of a different approach for say Android, where Hue has to create their own Hue app, it is more controlled.

BTW The Google Home app has been updated, much nicer now and you can see how a lot of this works.

Tinder Surprise wrote: »

I like the hub for smart devices in the home.

Note, this isn't really a Hub like the Hue Hub or SmartThings hub, it is just a screen. All the control and integration actually happens in the cloud.

Tinder Surprise

I like the hub for smart devices in the home.

Anyway to get say flashed Sonoff devices to work?

The high horse brigade

namloc1980 wrote: »

Need to see what sort of home integration it has beyond Nest products as in, does it do Hue etc.

Hue already supports Google Assistant but it's up to Hue to develop for this new version with a screen

namloc1980

SemperFidelis wrote: »

no play store, limited to a few apps at the moment

Need to see what sort of home integration it has beyond Nest products as in, does it do Hue etc.

The high horse brigade

OU812 wrote: »

I’m really amazed Apple didn’t do this. I’m sure they will in time but this is what the HomePod should have been.

Apple will do it 2 years late

OU812

I’m really amazed Apple didn’t do this. I’m sure they will in time but this is what the HomePod should have been.

SemperFidelis

no play store, limited to a few apps at the moment

namloc1980

Does the Home Hub have play store?

Kintarō Hattori

bk wrote: »

Cool, lets us know how it goes

Yes, exactly, that would be my concern about the Lenovo/JBL/etc. ones. The Google one will obviously quickly get the updates, but what about the others. Will they be like Android phones waiting years for updates, if you get them at all.

Having said that, it does look like these are more controlled then Android, so maybe updates will be pushed out quickly, but personally I'd be wait and see how it develops.

BTW Samsung have their own assistant, Bixby and their own smart speakers, it seems pretty rubbish.

I'v had a Galaxy S8 almost since release with a dedicated Bixby button. I've used it a grand total of..... 0 times.

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Bought it last night. I should ideally have waited on reviews but feck it, I don't drink/smoke/go out so why the hell not. Neither do I have much of a use for it as such but sure it'll be a bit of fun during the winter months.

Cool, lets us know how it goes

The high horse brigade wrote: »

As long as the manufacturers don't fcuk with the software more like

Samsung will be along shortly....

Yes, exactly, that would be my concern about the Lenovo/JBL/etc. ones. The Google one will obviously quickly get the updates, but what about the others. Will they be like Android phones waiting years for updates, if you get them at all.

Having said that, it does look like these are more controlled then Android, so maybe updates will be pushed out quickly, but personally I'd be wait and see how it develops.

BTW Samsung have their own assistant, Bixby and their own smart speakers, it seems pretty rubbish.