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Cut children's allowance after 3 kids

TOMs WIFE

Cut children's allowance after 3 kids.
Any more it's your choice, like Sky Sports.
It encourages people who shouldn't have more, and those who really can't afford more, to have more.

Allowance for 9th kid? Crazy. We'd see a little more restraint and more room in Garda Station waiting rooms if it was stopped.

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dxhound2005

When the allowance started in 1944 it was only paid for the third child and any subsequent children. Nothing for child number one or two ever. Very advanced thinking for the time.

Pero_Bueno

Kevin Finnerty wrote: »

Passed two girls today in the local Spar

"Fucķin state of ya", the other being heavily pregnant.
"As if I had a choice" says she. Two of them laughed, they'd less teeth between them than they had kids.

Charming. It made me wanna cry.

These people should just be taken into a field and tickled with feathers

Pero_Bueno

puppieperson1 wrote: »

well you can see the alternative on the late late show tonight !!

Who was on ?

[Deleted User]

end of the road wrote: »

i would be surprised if in reality, that they would think twice about anything with your suggestion.
also, sending children off for adoption because you don't like the parents or they don't fit your view of a perfect parent, or they don't comply with some nonsense course which has no guarantee of achieving the aims you would like, would effectively be stealing children in my view. no better then what the catholic church, among others were doing. it would also be impossible to do, as you would probably be removing children from every parent bar yourself, and maybe a small few others, as very few would actually comply with any of this, and rightly so. not only that, but there is no guarantee that adopting these children to other parents would mean they turn out decent, as there have been decent parents who have turned out scumbags, and scumbags who have turned out decent people. this is why your idea of a perfect parent cannot be realised as a whole across society.
when the state intervenes to remove children from their parents, in this country at least, it's (rightly) because there is a genuine reason to do so, their parents are a genuine serious danger to their children. it is not because the state doesn't like the parents.

I think that suggestion was tongue in cheek

Pero_Bueno

JJJJNR wrote: »

We need more kids not less. More children mean more tax payers to keep this kip going . Increase the children's allowance x10.

You do realise there is 7 Billion people in the world?

Totally unsustainable.

Pero_Bueno

PirateShampoo wrote: »

With "Professionals" putting off having children until later life and then having only 1 or 2, where do you think the future generations are going to come from to pay for your free bus pass, medical card and state pension?

ehhhh ... these type of people wont be contributing to the tax system !
They will be like their parents, free loading wasters.

Grayson

freshpopcorn wrote: »

This is something I often wondered about how it would work!
Would they people also want medical card, grants, back to school allowance or any payments people receive for their kids?

It's effectively making life harder for those kids who come after the first two.
I fully understand where the desire to cap the allowance comes from but if it's going to hurt kids then it's probably a bad thing.

TOMs WIFE

Subsequent kids cost less. Hand me downs. Reduced rate.

end of the road

puppieperson1 wrote: »

Make people apply for a license to have kids then do a pre kids course then be monitered and IQ tested also made to outline the path they intend to lay out for the child and what education they intend to provide.

After all that they might think twice & anyone who does not comply then their offspring be automatically sent for adoption to parents who can then have a child without all the IVF torture and raise a good decent human being !! SIMPLE ......

i would be surprised if in reality, that they would think twice about anything with your suggestion.
also, sending children off for adoption because you don't like the parents or they don't fit your view of a perfect parent, or they don't comply with some nonsense course which has no guarantee of achieving the aims you would like, would effectively be stealing children in my view. no better then what the catholic church, among others were doing. it would also be impossible to do, as you would probably be removing children from every parent bar yourself, and maybe a small few others, as very few would actually comply with any of this, and rightly so. not only that, but there is no guarantee that adopting these children to other parents would mean they turn out decent, as there have been decent parents who have turned out scumbags, and scumbags who have turned out decent people. this is why your idea of a perfect parent cannot be realised as a whole across society.
when the state intervenes to remove children from their parents, in this country at least, it's (rightly) because there is a genuine reason to do so, their parents are a genuine serious danger to their children. it is not because the state doesn't like the parents.

TOMs WIFE

up for anything wrote: »

Child Benefit is payable to anyone who has children whether it's Michael O'Leary, Seanie Fitzpatrick or me or even you lot if you ever find anyone wanting to make babies with you. :D:D The way you're all speaking about it you'd swear your own mothers never got it regardless of whether they needed it or not. Very few refuse it.

I wonder what you'd find to whine in After Hours about if Ireland suddenly withdrew all welfare benefits.

Said the 10th youngest

up for anything

Child Benefit is payable to anyone who has children whether it's Michael O'Leary, Seanie Fitzpatrick or me or even you lot if you ever find anyone wanting to make babies with you.

:D:D The way you're all speaking about it you'd swear your own mothers never got it regardless of whether they needed it or not. Very few refuse it.

I wonder what you'd find to whine in After Hours about if Ireland suddenly withdrew all welfare benefits.

end of the road

Cut children's allowance after 3 kids.
Any more it's your choice, like Sky Sports.[/QUOTE]

except it's never going to work like that, because unlike sky sports which is a commercial television station, children if born will require, and are entitled to be supported, whatever our opinions of their parents.

TOMs WIFE wrote: »

It encourages people who shouldn't have more, and those who really can't afford more, to have more.

does it really though? i'm not sure it does in reality. it might look as if it does on the face of it, but if we examine this deeper, then i'd be surprised if this viewpoint really does stand up. while people will get benefits per child had, the question we have to ask is whether after a certain stage, those benefits will cover the full cost of raising all of those children. personally, i'd be surprised if it does, which is why i don't believe that over all, anyone with a large family on benefits is simply having children for money. some may be trying that tac, but i'd bet they find out quickly that it's not going to work out as they would hope.

TOMs WIFE wrote: »

Allowance for 9th kid? Crazy. We'd see a little more restraint and more room in Garda Station waiting rooms if it was stopped.

i'm not sure we would see either of those in reality. there are people in countries with no supports for children who have large families. yes there is the issue of lack of contraception but i think that can only go so far as an explanation as to why people have large families.

[Deleted User]

Whats the thought process behind this?

Multiple births
If you have twins, you get one and a half times the normal monthly rate for each child. For triplets and other multiple births, Child Benefit is paid at double the normal monthly rate for each child, provided at least three of the children remain qualified.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/social_welfare_payments_to_families_and_children/child_benefit.html

Eggs For Dinner

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Should be after 2

An heir and a spare should be the norm

Irish Praetorian

I must admit, it does seem like a strange sort of topic, considering how modest a proportion of the whole budge it makes up (notwithstanding stuff like pensions).

Hitman3000

Two welfare threads in the one day? Maybe time for a name change from AH to WR (welfare rant).

freshpopcorn

This is something I often wondered about how it would work!
Would they people also want medical card, grants, back to school allowance or any payments people receive for their kids?

Purple Mountain

Kevin Finnerty wrote: »

Passed two girls today in the local Spar

"Fucķin state of ya", the other being heavily pregnant.
"As if I had a choice" says she. Two of them laughed, they'd less teeth between them than they had kids.

Charming. It made me wanna cry.

It reminds me of an antenatal appointment in Mt hospital when I was pregnant over a decade ago.
Two, shall we say, less desirable ladies were having an open chat in the corridor, no qualms about who was listening.
Turns out one of them was a nit advanced into her pregnancy before it was noticed and was at the hospital for a scan to determine gestation.
The other one asked her if she was hoping for a boy or girl and the she replied by saying neither, sure I didn't even want to get pregnant.
I know it's off topic here but your post reminded me of that and that some people should no be allowed be parents.

TOMs WIFE

The very fact that Citizens information have to publish the below, is worrying enough.

Family sizeMonthly rate, €
One child 140
Two children280
Three children420
Four children560
Five children700
Six children840
Seven children 980

Eight children 1,120

corner of hells

Kevin Finnerty wrote: »

Passed two girls today in the local Spar

"Fucķin state of ya", the other being heavily pregnant.
"As if I had a choice" says she. Two of them laughed, they'd less teeth between them than they had kids.

Charming. It made me wanna cry.

Are you sure , you're in the right thread ?

Maybe you should be in the pregnancy thread , the dental thread or Spar thread.

TOMs WIFE

Wade Mango Tongue wrote: »

Do you really think people have kids for the sake of €35 a week ?

For some families, that €350 per week adds up.

Dravokivich wrote: »

Hello China.

In the UK:

Rate (weekly)

Eldest or only child £20.70
Additional children £13.70 (per child)

Kevin Finnerty

Passed two girls today in the local Spar

"Fucķin state of ya", the other being heavily pregnant.
"As if I had a choice" says she. Two of them laughed, they'd less teeth between them than they had kids.

Charming. It made me wanna cry.

Roger Hassenforder

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm paraphrasing OP

Im joking.

*gets coat

[Deleted User]

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Reported
Thats a new low in here

I'm paraphrasing OP

Roger Hassenforder

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Fcuk the kids

Reported
Thats a new low in here

Fr_Dougal

JJJJNR wrote: »

We need more kids not less. More children mean more tax payers to keep this kip going . Increase the children's allowance x10.

No we don’t. At the rate automation is going, these kids will end up unemployed.

[Deleted User]

Fcuk the kids. They should fend for themselves.

corner of hells

puppieperson1 wrote: »

well you can see the alternative on the late late show tonight !!

Ryan Turbridy turned out okay.

puppieperson1

well you can see the alternative on the late late show tonight !!

corner of hells

puppieperson1 wrote: »

Make people apply for a license to have kids then do a pre kids course then be monitered and IQ tested also made to outline the path they intend to lay out for the child and what education they intend to provide.

After all that they might think twice & anyone who does not comply then their offspring be automatically sent for adoption to parents who can then have a child without all the IVF torture and raise a good decent human being !! SIMPLE ......

Good idea , we could do a theory test and have provisional license for practice rides.

I like the idea of removing kids from their parents , sure that always works well.