petronius wrote: » Michael D - breaks his promise to run again
petronius wrote: » says he will reveal how he spends the allowance
FrancieBrady wrote: » What? When was G O'D asked for her daughter's medical records?
VinLieger wrote: » Well she wasn't as she never used her daughters vaccinations status to push her misguided uninformed anti-vaxx agenda, see how that works? I dont think she has a daughter, and tbh if she did from what ive learned of her im pretty sure she would have done exactly that as well. Francie your a SF apologist, i fully believe there is literally nothing you wouldn't defend them on and you are trying to deflect that onto others by insisting that it's everyone else that has an agenda.
Well she wasn't as she never used her daughters vaccinations status to push her misguided uninformed anti-vaxx agenda, see how that works?
Thammer wrote: » A blustering protest politician who voted for the tax amnesty
Robert McGrath wrote: » What tax amnesty?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Posting your anonymous daughters medical history on the internet is not the same thing as giving in to a spurious, of no consequence demand for the medical histories of identifiable people in real life. Get a grip with the vain glorious posturing from the high moral ground. Unless you have changed your behaviour on here, you wouldn't believe anything she said anyway, by virtue of the fact she is one of your political boogey persons. The very next thing you would be asking for is written proof that they were vaccinated. She has clearly made her statement fully supporting the vaccine and looking for it's use to be extended. If there is any evidence out there that she is lying, present it. Your demand that her children be involved in this is creepy in the extreme.
FrancieBrady wrote: » She 'pushed her concerns' about the lack of information at a time when there was a fairly intense campaign of mis-information and sensationalism going on on social media coming from actual anti-vaxxers.
Thammer wrote: » Michael d is no better than Gallagher A blustering protest politician who voted for the tax amnesty Wants to seal his legacy by being a 2 term president when the honourable thing would be to stand aside
blanch152 wrote: » Sorry, if you meet me in real life and engage in a discussion about vaccines, I will happily share that information with you, as I have done on quite a number of occasions with many others. If I ever become a public figure and the question arises, I will also be happy to state it clearly. The need for leadership on the HPV vaccine issue is clear. That means if you previously said that you weren't getting your children vaccinated, you should set out what happened since. Otherwise you are just another do what I say, not what I do politician in the mould of CJH. Ni Riadh is a good SF politician. She cleverly uses half-truths and evasions to hide the true nature of what she stands for.
Thammer wrote: » Have the dragons got anything up their sleeve or are they merely showboating and using the PR. Gallagher seems to have an air of entitlement about him like he deserves to be President
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » I would think that's exactly what they are doing.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Leadership is speaking up without fear or favour. She saw/experienced a lack of clear information and many people being affected by spurious antivaxx stuff on social media. I remember it myself, the touching stories about girls who had died and the poignant photos etc etc. The HSE had to be spurred into action. And they will have to do that continually about a whole range of things. Thankfully not all politicians sit back in silence because blanch152 is going to say sensationalist things about them on a website.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Leadership is speaking up without fear or favour. She saw/experienced a lack of clear information and many people being affected by spurious antivaxx stuff on social media. I remember it myself, the touching stories about girls who had died and the poignant photos etc etc.
blanch152 wrote: » And like all good decent SF leaders, she followed the mob. Leadership is about making the right decisions.
seamus wrote: » And Steve Jobs saved Apple, despite being a crackpot. I applaud the great work she's done with PH. I've fundraised for them. But that doesn't erase the quackery that's emerging. Miracle cures from Knock. Donations from shady businessmen. And then, "I never heard of Iona before". Despite her niece being one of the top people in it, and despite a clearly deep religious ideology.
Rhineshark wrote: » I have to admit, I did not realise Ni Riada was banging on about the HPV vaccine in 2016. Due to various things I missed that whole national debate and so I'd been under the impression it was a lot earlier but it seems there was a convincing misinformation campaign through 2015-2016. Take-up rates dropped from 87% in 2014 to 51% in 2016. No wonder the HSE were trying to correct the scaremongering. Unless there's more to it than the one interview in late (sept) 2016 - and her decision, then the other known facts seem to corroborate the argument that she was worried about it and therefore spoke about it and has since been convinced that her fears weren't justified. I appreciate a politician with the courage to change their mind and it looks credible enough. Her eldest daughter was vaccinated, the question seems to be regarding the next which fits hearing the campaign and getting concerned. It doesn't fit an anti-vaxx agenda for her eldest to have a voluntary vaccination. She now has stated that she supports young men getting it too as it does benefit them as well. That also doesn't fit anti-vaxx. Does SF have an anti-vaxx floating voter issue? It is an oddly left-wing craze as well as sprouting up amongst conspiracy theorists of every stripe. Was SF tending to egg on the whole thing? (Actual questions; as I said, I missed this happening). She did bring her daughters into it so it's a fair question. She stated that she wasn't having her daughter vaccinated from a position of influence. So some responsibility to clear up that loose end. Given my limited evidence I lean towards benefit of the doubt. A lot of people were taken in by it.https://www.google.ie/amp/s/cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2013/11/29/interview-with-liadh-ni-riada/amp/ I won't be giving her second preference for a whole bunch of other reasons; I don't like her comments on Adams and sexual abuse being a "family affair" and given the whole Brexit effort leading to unionist tension and their particular paranoia about RoI designs on NI, I am not keen on a SF president right now. The Irish presidency is about the soft hand of diplomacy. It would be a symbol of division right now in the context of Brexit. Also, I thought she was already elected to MEP. Guess Freeman is second for me then.
eastwest wrote: » I can't see a second choice vote among any of the circus running this time. There's only one serious contender, so I don't see the point in voting on down the list.
Rhineshark wrote: » I agree this is a terrible line-up.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I think the field of candidates is a pretty representative cross section of the social and political tensions preoccupying the country tbh.
Rhineshark wrote: » I don't. Three dragons ain't representative of anything except Dragon's Den.
eastwest wrote: » The question is, are they working together to get Gallagher across the line? If he maintains his previous vote, and they succeed in taking enough votes from Michael D, it's always a possibility.
Thammer wrote: » They've done nothing to suggest there's an orchestrated strategy Or if there is it's not.working
