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NEW 2018 Assistant Principal Officer Competition

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Good luck everyone!

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The_Conductor

CZ 453 wrote: »

Anyone having issues accessing the assessment? I have the latest adobe and it is still saying I don't or it's not enabled. I have it enabled also. Any ideas? Thanks

I was just onto them- apparently they only support Internet Explorer on PCs- if you're using Chrome or Firefox- don't..........

Sir Ophiuchus

I got caught on time as well on the numerical: only got 15 answered. I'm reassuring myself with the thought that the important thing with that one is just to make the pass mark.

delricyo

C.O.Y.B.I.B wrote: »

+1 on those poxy currency questions.....
Other then that , think it went alright , though in situation judgement one of the "situations" didn't match the questions so I screenshot it and sent it to the support address. Any idea how that'll play out ? thanks

I can't recall any of the situational questions being irrelevant to the scenario. But I'm sure that if it is incorrect, we will be marked out of 99 questions instead?

C.O.Y.B.I.B

Megidje wrote: »

Yeah I got completely stuck on currency ones (don’t even remember ratio qs !) Ah well unless I got the last 4 qs that I guessed right, I’m goosed.

+1 on those poxy currency questions.....
Other then that , think it went alright , though in situation judgement one of the "situations" didn't match the questions so I screenshot it and sent it to the support address. Any idea how that'll play out ? thanks

Anakha

CZ 453 wrote: »

Anyone having issues accessing the assessment? I have the latest adobe and it is still saying I don't or it's not enabled. I have it enabled also. Any ideas? Thanks

I think people have been having problems with Chrome. I tried using Chrome and it didnt work, ended up using Mozilla.
There is a tech queries email though, so they can probably shed more light on it

gmisk

I did practice for verbal reasoning and that was alright.... The numerical one wasn't so good... I really need more time and I would be fine..

never_mind

Well that was a load of balls.

Numerical questions were very difficult - hadn’t w breeze tbh. I hate that kind of maths - give me algebra any day!

Other components were ok. I’d say I did well on the management scenario one but probably won’t get on to next stage cause of numerical. Oh well!!

Megidje

Anakha wrote: »

It was the currency ones I totally messed up on and they were fairly early on so then I spent the rest of the time panicked and looking at the clock

Yeah I got completely stuck on currency ones (don’t even remember ratio qs !) Ah well unless I got the last 4 qs that I guessed right, I’m goosed.

CZ 453

Anyone having issues accessing the assessment? I have the latest adobe and it is still saying I don't or it's not enabled. I have it enabled also. Any ideas? Thanks

Anakha

Megidje wrote: »

Don’t suppose it was the currency qs that you had an issue with?

It was the currency ones I totally messed up on and they were fairly early on so then I spent the rest of the time panicked and looking at the clock

lapua20grain

Megidje wrote:

Donâ€™t suppose it was the currency qs that you had an issue with?

It wasn't it was the ratio ones just a major brain fart couldn't figure it out in my head. This time I had 3 mins left at the end of the maths questions, that's not to say I got a high score

Megidje

lapua20grain wrote: »

Did one of the SHL tests 2 weeks ago for a job flew through all and then had a major brain fart in the middle of the maths one couldn't get my head around 4 questions and ended up not answering 4. It can be a bit off putting that it can go pear shaped so easily.

Don’t suppose it was the currency qs that you had an issue with?

dee75

sillysocks wrote: »

Interesting info! Thanks for that.
So the actual test scores didn’t impact the order on the panel? Only the interview results?

As far as I can remember only your interview score affected your final Order of Merit. But to get that far you had to score highly after Stage 1 and 2 tests but then slate wiped clean again each time.

dee75

PhoenixParker wrote: »

We're the 205 from stage two invited to interview everyone who qualified of the original 1047, or were they just batch 1?

Was there a cv shortlisting at stage 1/2 or was that not used?

The 205 were just Batch 1 from the 1047

I don't think there was a shortlisting of cv's in the last competition.

dee75

Addle wrote: »

Just 205 candidates made the final interview? Is that altogether or in a first batch? I find that a surprisingly low number.

Anyone know how many applied for this competition?

That was Batch 1 from the 1047

PhoenixParker

We're the 205 from stage two invited to interview everyone who qualified of the original 1047, or were they just batch 1?

Was there a cv shortlisting at stage 1/2 or was that not used?

sillysocks

dee75 wrote: »

Just some dates and notes from the 2016 Competition - not that it's a definite indication of what way it will go this time around.

STAGE 1
Test window closed on 19 December
Results out 12 January

Qualifying scores:
Verbal - 42 out of 80
Numerical - 40 out of 80
Situational - 40 out of 80

1,047 from Stage 1 were invited to Stage 2 - verification of Stage 1 Verbal & Numerical Tests plus Etray and Job Simulation

STAGE 2
Invitation received 13 January
Tests held end January and early February
Results out 22 February

Qualifying scores:
Verbal - 42 out of 80
Numerical - 40 out of 80
Job Simulation - 41 out of 80
Etray - 40 out of 80

Note - Order of Merit was determined by Job Simulation & Etray scores.
Average score was apparently 50 for each

205 from Stage 2 were invited to Stage 3 - Interview

STAGE 3
Interviews held mid March
Results out 23 March
Score given for each competency (5 competencies scored)
Order of Merit only gave your overall country-wide ranking, not your county rankings
From recollection, you had to ring after a few days to get your county rankings

Good luck to you all this time around! :D

Interesting info! Thanks for that.
So the actual test scores didn’t impact the order on the panel? Only the interview results?

Addle

Just 205 candidates made the final interview? Is that altogether or in a first batch? I find that a surprisingly low number.

Anyone know how many applied for this competition?

dee75

Just some dates and notes from the 2016 Competition - not that it's a definite indication of what way it will go this time around.

STAGE 1
Test window closed on 19 December
Results out 12 January

Qualifying scores:
Verbal - 42 out of 80
Numerical - 40 out of 80
Situational - 40 out of 80

1,047 from Stage 1 were invited to Stage 2 - verification of Stage 1 Verbal & Numerical Tests plus Etray and Job Simulation

STAGE 2
Invitation received 13 January
Tests held end January and early February
Results out 22 February

Qualifying scores:
Verbal - 42 out of 80
Numerical - 40 out of 80
Job Simulation - 41 out of 80
Etray - 40 out of 80

Note - Order of Merit was determined by Job Simulation & Etray scores.
Average score was apparently 50 for each

205 from Stage 2 were invited to Stage 3 - Interview

STAGE 3
Interviews held mid March
Results out 23 March
Score given for each competency (5 competencies scored)
Order of Merit only gave your overall country-wide ranking, not your county rankings
From recollection, you had to ring after a few days to get your county rankings

Good luck to you all this time around!

youngbird

Just completed the verbal & numerical. The time allowance for numerical is the main issue in my experience - the questions would be manageable if there was more time to consider the answers.

Hard to strike the balance of a thorough review of the data and accuracy in answering the question vs. the speed required to complete the test.

If it's any reassurance, the Civil Service rarely produce information or policy decisions without a timely and thorough analysis of the data to hand - or so I'm told...;)

lucat

Addle wrote: »

It's a shortlisting exercise.
They have relevance to your general mental ability.

They have relevance to a particular mental ability I would say. Don't know about general mental ability.

Just did them there- I only got 14/18 questions done in the numerical and even then I guessed a few.

Is it just me, or did a lot of the most logical responses in the verbal seem to be 'cannot say'?

Addle

lucat wrote: »

What would happen if everyone in Ireland just refused to do them, considering they have no relevance to the actual job?

It's a shortlisting exercise.
They have relevance to your general mental ability.

lucat

What would happen if everyone in Ireland just refused to do them, considering they have no relevance to the actual job?

Luckyduck78

i thought the numerical were very difficult. very disappointed. going to try to forget all about it. have a great Sunday everyone :-/

RunRoryRun

Tests completed - numerical tougher than I expected!

Anakha

C.O.Y.B.I.B wrote: »

Anyone know if there's a penalty for skipping a difficult question . Given that people seem to struggle , particularly in numerical to complete them all.
In practice i got all the verbal.done , but only 11 of the 18 numerical . First two though took me 7 minutes which threw me right off .

There was no mention of penalties for skipping or negative marking for wrong answers or anything like that, but they don't tell you how it is marked at all. I assumed that answering wrong wouldnt be any worse than not answering at all and with 4 or 5 possible answers you had a 20 - 25% change of guessing the right one

delricyo

I'm predicting that we should have the results by the bank holiday. The sooner the better...

delricyo

jones wrote: »

Anyone having any issues running this in chrome? mine was working for the practice but since then chrome updated to version 69 and now its saying flash is not enable or out of date (its not). I have tried manually enabling flash on the site but still getting the same error message.

Yeah, I couldn't run it in Chrome either. Even after updating flash and restarting the PC. Had to run it in internet explorer in the end

C.O.Y.B.I.B

Anakha wrote: »

I just finished up there. Feeling absolutely drained, I know I messed up on the numerical, normally I do quite well in that but one of the sets threw me and then I was totally in a state
anyways, nothing for it now but wait. I might have preferred a slightly longer wait than 2 weeks (you know delay the pain, haha)
Anyways, nevermind, better to have tried my best than not tried at all
Best of luck everyone!!

Anyone know if there's a penalty for skipping a difficult question . Given that people seem to struggle , particularly in numerical to complete them all.
In practice i got all the verbal.done , but only 11 of the 18 numerical . First two though took me 7 minutes which threw me right off .

lapua20grain

franklyon wrote:

Same as which test?

I did one of these tests last week for a job in a pharma company prior to getting an interview