Kintarō Hattori wrote: » Hi Folks, Currently my partner and I are experiencing severe noise issues with a neighbour and the missus has mused the idea of building something in the back garden that would allow her to get a good nights sleep. I'm just trying to get some ideas of what it would cost to build a fairly straight forward structure. We envisage a rectangular shaped room with enough space for a bed, maybe a toilet if feasible, a sloped roof to allow water run off but the main thing is we want it to be well insulated from noise. Where do I even start on something like this?
kceire wrote: » Connected to the house or a stand alone building? Planning required.
TheBoyConor wrote: » I'd say a pair of noise cancelling earplugs would be a bit more cost effective tbh. A bit extreme to go building an outside bedroom for the sake of being away from noise. To do it properly is going to cost quite a lot of money. Bear in mind that it would have to be heated, insulated to Part L needs, plumbed, electrics and laying sewerage if ye install a WC, which could involve a pump if depending on the falls on your site. Could ye not spend the money improving the sound insulation of your home? Might be money better spent to be honest.
Lumen wrote: » You can't legally sleep overnight in a structure that doesn't have planning permission. Much easier to soundproof a room in the house. Or learn to sleep with ear plugs.
Penn wrote: » Don't. That's going to extremes to solve a simple enough problem. You could spend 10% of the likely cost just improving the sound resistance of your existing wall with Soundbloc pasterboard on battens with rockwool behind. It might not get rid of all the noise, but should do enough to reduce it enough to sleep through it. If you want to build the above, you're talking planning permission, building it to a comfortable standard (heating, insulated etc), connecting into existing drainage, losing garden space (I'm guessing if you're having noise issues with a neighbour, you're likely semi-detached or terraced in an estate), and decent enough cost, and yet you still might have to insulate it as much as you would with your bedroom depending on proximity and noise levels. Any way you could approach the neighbours and discuss their noise levels?
Kintarō Hattori wrote: » Oh I know planning permission is required but I'm just trying to figure out what the budget would be. It'd be stand alone from the house.
pwurple wrote: » Sounds like what you are looking for is a simple soundproofed garden studio to "play or record music in. ". No sleeping or toilets Kintaro. These guys do them, you could give them a buzz.snip You can spend as much as you like tbh. Depends on finishes etc. It'd be easy enough to spend 10k on it I'd imagine. We've probably spent almost that on garden patios, a built in bbq with a roof area, plumbing water and waste to a potting shed over the years.
pwurple wrote: » Sounds like what you are looking for is a simple soundproofed garden studio to "play or record music in. ". No sleeping or toilets Kintaro. These guys do them, you could give them a buzz.https://www.snip/ You can spend as much as you like tbh. Depends on finishes etc. It'd be easy enough to spend 10k on it I'd imagine. We've probably spent almost that on garden patios, a built in bbq with a roof area, plumbing water and waste to a potting shed over the years.
Kintarō Hattori wrote: » I hear everything you're saying folks but no-one has really highlighted my query in the last post. How likely effective would soundproofing be? We've lived beside this person for 7 years and never had a problem until this summer when it all seemed to kick off.
kceire wrote: » Sound proofing wont really work unless you can do the whole party wall, up to the ridgeline. Then you face the noise, what's causing it? Impact noise, reverberation etc It cannot be really fixed without extensive works to both sides of the party wall.
Penn wrote: » Agreed, however I think you could do enough that it might reduce it enough to not disturb/prevent sleep.
kceire wrote: » Possibly, I was in a pair of houses this month that failed the Part E sound Test. Builder had to spend 8k on a system to get it though. Basically stripping it back down, insulating both sides with an aquostic layer and associated build up.
JimmyMW wrote: » This advice is foolish, you will end up with a very expensive shed and still have the same problem you have now. Pwurple, do you honestly think when they are going to court with a neighbor that said neighbor wont report them to the planning authority once they start using it for sleeping.
Penn wrote: » Well that's fair enough, and it does depend on the age and method of construction.
pwurple wrote: » He's on about a snooze here and there, not moving in there. My kids sleep out in our garden, in a tent a few nights a year, the planning isn't down on top of us for sleeping conditions. He asked about soundproofing, and there's a musician who lives near us with a soundproofed studio in his garden, works just fine. That being said, if it's more than the odd 40 winks, my realistic advice would be to move house rather than build. Opening and closing windows, and walking on stairs isn't an outrageous thing to be doing in your own house. ... and I've no idea how you are constructing a case for bringing them to court for that. It sounds like the relationship is gone to pot. I've a relative who is just heavy-handed/footed. It sounds like he is stamping and slamming around the place the whole time, but it's just how he is built. He can't help it. Find yourself something detatched, or co-joined.
kceire wrote: » Block built, the brickie never heard of single coursing. Double coursed the whole party wall. It was an expensive mistake and i'm sure it wont happen again
Kintarō Hattori wrote: » https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xLUMXsRgXA2LwpwxT0O0NU1sSNz5oLWg/view?usp=sharing Listen from about a minute onwards and tell me that's acceptable. I can't believe it is. This is 6 hours condensed into about 3 minutes. You really need to hear it in a quiet environment to get the full effect. This is during the night when the housing estate we both live on is quiet, most people aren't storming around their home, slamming doors and windows etc.
TheMilkyPirate wrote: » If that's all night every night she's either mentally unstable or doing it on purpose.
